New Falken AT tire (A/T3W)

Edit to add...I now have a second tire with this issue.


Is this part of the original set or the replacement tire?

Also curious to know if they are P-load or C/E load rated tires? And where and when were they made? Both should be on sidewall.

We had Falken Wildpeak AT3W’s on our old 2000 4Runner-OEM size and P rated. Not too many miles on them, maybe 10-15k? No issues. Our 2021 4Runner has OEM size Wildpeaks in E rated tires. About 5k on them now and no issues. Aside from one easy trail in Sedona (Outlaw), all street/fwy driving. No issues with the new either.

Hope DT continues to take care of you.


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Is this part of the original set or the replacement tire?

Also curious to know if they are P-load or C/E load rated tires? And where and when were they made? Both should be on sidewall.

We had Falken Wildpeak AT3W’s on our old 2000 4Runner-OEM size and P rated. Not too many miles on them, maybe 10-15k? No issues. Our 2021 4Runner has OEM size Wildpeaks in E rated tires. About 5k on them now and no issues. Aside from one easy trail in Sedona (Outlaw), all street/fwy driving. No issues with the new either.

Hope DT continues to take care of you.


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This is an Original tire manufactured in 2019. All 255/80's are E Rated and I have approx 35k-ish miles. I believe they were Thailand if I remember correctly when I looked. I have a pretty decent amount of offroad with them. I will be visiting them this month since I want to get my new wheels put on and see what they say.
 
This is an Original tire manufactured in 2019. All 255/80's are E Rated and I have approx 35k-ish miles. I believe they were Thailand if I remember correctly when I looked. I have a pretty decent amount of offroad with them. I will be visiting them this month since I want to get my new wheels put on and see what they say.


Wow. Hopefully they will take care of you on it. Really surprised that it happened in E rated. Mine are made in Japan.


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This is an Original tire manufactured in 2019. All 255/80's are E Rated and I have approx 35k-ish miles. I believe they were Thailand if I remember correctly when I looked. I have a pretty decent amount of offroad with them. I will be visiting them this month since I want to get my new wheels put on and see what they say.

I would not be too upset with that. You have 35k on them already with lots of offroading. I am yet to have an AT for more than 33k.

My ATZ p3 now have 20k and they have not lost anything like that but if you look at the edges, there is plenty of evidence of what desert rock does to tires.

And the ATZ P3 is the strongest AT tire there is along with the sibling Cooper Discoverer Maxx.

So with lots of offroading, I would call that normal. I was not able to keep P metric Wildpeaks on the vehicle for more than 20k, in comparison. You are well ahead of that and the tire seems to still work overall or at least get you out. The P metric version, when used seriously in the desert, starts popping once tread goes under 9/32nds which happens quickly. So your results are not that bad :)
 
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This is where I am at

Tire 1: 47,498 miles 7/32's
Tire 2: 30,040 miles 10/32's
Tire 3: 8,748 miles 14/32
Tire 4: 5,159 miles 14/32

Tire 3 and 4 were replaced due to thread separation. Tire 1 and 2 were noticeably worse this winter than previous winters. Overall pretty disappointed in the tread issues but I am looking at the Wildpeak RT's.
 
We’ve had people comment on the Falkens. One gal mentioned how scary monster tires they were! Lol! Another asked if they were stock and I mentioned that they were my first mod.


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I am looking to replace my 2016 4runner limited stock geolander 20's for these falkens. I am debating the 265's or 275's on 17's ... I do not do any offroading, this is mainly for a more aggressive look and for my daily driver, and I don't want to do any modifications

I dont know much about tires, but someone said to get SL's over LT tires, would these tires be SL or LT? SL would make more sense for me, as they are better for fuel economy and city/hwy driving, but I am not sure if this applies to these AT's? sorry, I am a little confused :/

in the end, I like the look of the Falken's and want something for all year round (4 seasons here in Canada)... would these tires work for that?

Would another better option be to use the same toyota stock rim and put falkens on those? 275/55R20?

thanks!
 
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I am looking to replace my 2016 4runner limited stock geolander 20's for these falkens. I am debating the 265's or 275's on 17's ... I do not do any offroading, this is mainly for a more aggressive look and for my daily driver, and I don't want to do any modifications

I dont know much about tires, but someone said to get SL's over LT tires, would these tires be SL or LT? SL would make more sense for me, as they are better for fuel economy and city/hwy driving, but I am not sure if this applies to these AT's? sorry, I am a little confused :/

in the end, I like the look of the Falken's and want something for all year round (4 seasons here in Canada)... would these tires work for that?

Would another better option be to use the same toyota stock rim and put falkens on those? 275/55R20?

thanks!

if you don't want to mod, then stick with the stock size of 265/70-17. You could run them on your stock 20 inch wheels, but I don't know what size you need. If you don't off road, SL load rating is fine. They come in SL or LT load ratings. As far as 4 seasons in Canada, these are 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake rated so they will get you by. These are some of the best AT tires in the snow. That being said, tests show they still stop about 30% longer than a dedicated snow tire. It's your call on what you run when it gets cold, but 30% is a lot to me.
 
if you don't want to mod, then stick with the stock size of 265/70-17. You could run them on your stock 20 inch wheels, but I don't know what size you need. If you don't off road, SL load rating is fine. They come in SL or LT load ratings. As far as 4 seasons in Canada, these are 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake rated so they will get you by. These are some of the best AT tires in the snow. That being said, tests show they still stop about 30% longer than a dedicated snow tire. It's your call on what you run when it gets cold, but 30% is a lot to me.

Thanks for the info this helps! I'm leaning towards these falkens, greentrac rough masters xt's (cheap) and possibly toyo's now ... I think I've decided to stick to a 20" RIM to keep the LIMITED look (vs OFF ROAD), so 275/55/20's will do, I hear I may have to use a heat gun on the back tire wells but that should be fine.
 
I am looking to replace my 2016 4runner limited stock geolander 20's for these falkens. I am debating the 265's or 275's on 17's ... I do not do any offroading, this is mainly for a more aggressive look and for my daily driver, and I don't want to do any modifications

I dont know much about tires, but someone said to get SL's over LT tires, would these tires be SL or LT? SL would make more sense for me, as they are better for fuel economy and city/hwy driving, but I am not sure if this applies to these AT's? sorry, I am a little confused :/

in the end, I like the look of the Falken's and want something for all year round (4 seasons here in Canada)... would these tires work for that?

Would another better option be to use the same toyota stock rim and put falkens on those? 275/55R20?

thanks!
Plenty of people, including myself, offroad reasonably hard on SL-rated Wildpeaks. I have my SL's in stock P265/70R17. For a mostly paved road vehicle, it absolutely makes sense to get the SL's over the LT's. My rig still gets 25mpg on 70mph highways thanks to these, and still has a very nice on-road ride.

Just got caught in a hellish storm last night, they did very well. They are 3-peak mountain snowflake rated.
 
I can't remember where I read it/heard it, but the E-Load of the Falken Wildpeaks don't have the same tread compound as the SL/P Rated tires and have worse snow/ice performance.

Hate to spread internet wild-talk without citing sources, but maybe more knowledgeable folks will chime in.
 
I am looking to replace my 2016 4runner limited stock geolander 20's for these falkens. I am debating the 265's or 275's on 17's ... I do not do any offroading, this is mainly for a more aggressive look and for my daily driver, and I don't want to do any modifications

I dont know much about tires, but someone said to get SL's over LT tires, would these tires be SL or LT? SL would make more sense for me, as they are better for fuel economy and city/hwy driving, but I am not sure if this applies to these AT's? sorry, I am a little confused :/

in the end, I like the look of the Falken's and want something for all year round (4 seasons here in Canada)... would these tires work for that?

Would another better option be to use the same toyota stock rim and put falkens on those? 275/55R20?

thanks!


Have you looked at the General AT/X
They are an awesome tire, i absolutely love them. Snow, ice, road, hot, cold, they are awesome tires. I have been running them for almost 10 years on every vehicle. I have run thru snow storms, ice storms, rain, heat, heavy loads, they are by far my favorite tire and they wear absolutely amazingly. My 2008 4runner has a set of 285-60-18 LRE and i have about 93,000 miles on them and i swear they are going to go to 130,000.
I have had them on my 1ton toy hauler truck, 3/4ton every day driver, 3 4Runners, tacoma and tundra. They are studdable for ice if you drive a lot in the ice and they have freaking great traction in the snow and they outlast every tire i have ever had. The set on my 4Runner that has so many miles, i have only balanced once at like 40,000 miles and they are still smooth to this day. I run out west a lot chasing desert races, which is what my diesel trucks do, and i have run into countless snow storms and ice storms pulling a big race trailer and have always made it home no problem when countless other people are sitting in the ditches and medians. Also been in death valley at 120 in late august where the road temp was 160+, seen the tires be so hot pulling into a truck stop that when i backed up i had melted my front tire print into the asphalt on my 1ton dually. I currently have the General AT/X on all 3 of my current toyotas and absolutely love them.

Your stock tires are 245-60-20 which is a 31.6" tire
You can run them in a 265-70-17 which is a 31.6" tire if you choose a 17" wheel
You can also run them in a 275-55-20 which is a 31.9" tire if you keep your stock wheels

Edit: added pix, also forgot i had pix but Jan 1 2015 there was a massive ice storm that hit west texas. I was headed west for a race the beginning of January. This was a massive ice storm, about 150 miles of i20 was blanketed with pure ice. There were hundreds of 18wheelers and cars and trucks all over the ditches and medians and i drove straight thru non stop. I was in the rain from terrell across to about Ranger Tx, then it turned to sleet. Somewhere between sweet water the temps started to fall and around Midland the sleet turned to ice. From Midland across to Pecos was 4wd weaving in and out of cars stuck sideways in the highway. By the time i got to Van Horn it cleared up and i got back to normal speeds. I bet there were thousands of cars and trucks all over the road and i kept driving, pulling a loaded 30ft race trailer.
 

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Wildpeaks

I had good highway and off road service from my AT3W’s and have been waiting for the same for replacements. Today the replacement will be the new AT4W’s. Just ordered them and expect to have them mounted next week weather pending…
 
Thanks everyone for your feedback, I ended up going with Falken Widepeaks AT3W 275/60R20’s

They fit almost stock but had to remove the extra piece of the mud flaps on the 2 front wheel wells and also use a heat gun to push in the plastic. No rubbing anymore!

They are an SL rated tire and are excellent in the snow, very happy with them!

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Guess this the end of the AT3W's for production and for my Runner. Screw hit the side wall so need to upgrade tires since they are no longer being produced. I had issues with 2/4 AT3W's but the lone OG tire that I bought was at 6/32's after 58k hard miles. Ended up going with the Toyo Open Country RT Trails.
 
Guess this the end of the AT3W's for production and for my Runner. Screw hit the side wall so need to upgrade tires since they are no longer being produced. I had issues with 2/4 AT3W's but the lone OG tire that I bought was at 6/32's after 58k hard miles. Ended up going with the Toyo Open Country RT Trails.

Why not the AT4s?
 

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