Well, I'm running them at 32psi which is spitting distance from 28psi. So I think I'm good for 5 punctures. :cheers:
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Well, I'm running them at 32psi which is spitting distance from 28psi. So I think I'm good for 5 punctures. :cheers:
I have about 1000 miles on mine and so far so good. Much quieter than the Nittos that came on my Pro. Ive done 2 trips off road, one in dirt performed flawlessly and no wear or damage. Hit the sand dunes and had to use crawl control to bail myself out, no fault of the tires.
I highly recommend, especially for the price ( i paid 750 installed)
265/70/17
I highly recommend, especially for the price ( i paid 750 installed)
265/70/17
you've entirely missed the point that lower pressure is better for puncture resistance, and also missed that the P-rated tire still only had 2 passes at 28psi (5 passes is an LT tire)
the P-tire isn't as tough, you have to drop the pressure to approach the puncture resistance of an LT tire even at full pressure. it is more important to drop pressure on a P-tire.
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Decipher
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Not all tires are created equal. Your chart simply doesn’t apply to this tire, although it’s cool info for the tires tested.
I off-road more than anyone I know and my P-series have held up far better than my skepticism expected. I’ve had zero issues. This is my second set of P series tires and while you can’t argue that a C load or E load tire is more rugged, there becomes a real world argument about when you will actually implement those strengths. I apparently haven’t needed it yet and neither have a lot of folks here who have gone to MOAB and other places where P tires have earned some respect.
Lastly, on airing down, this is been covered extensively but this is a long thread. I’ll summarize it. Falken themselves say not to air down below 28 psi to maintain a bead and sidewall integrity. I ride my 285/70-17s at 35 on the street and 30 on the trail. Not a single issue to report in this size or my original OEM size set.
Do I prefer a LR-C? Sure for peace of mind. Do I need it? Not yet.
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Decipher
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I really didn’t see a dip in MPG from stock size Wildpeaks to 285s. The biggest factors where I saw MPG loses were adding a roof basket and when I had the heavier C-load Ridge Grapplers on. With my current setup I’m seeing 17 MPG combined which is acceptable to me.
Stock tires, I was seeing around 20.
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drewsro
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Might help to do a little bit of reading on this tire from this thread before making assumptions. If you don't have any experience with these tires, then your input isn't needed.
Decipher
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I agree that my own experience with no puncture yet doesn’t mean they’re puncture resistant, but as noted above, you’re not necessarily comparing apples to apples. I’m not claiming these Falkens are magic in P series, but given the many positive reports in this thread (and I’ve read every post twice), these shouldn’t be written off just because they’re P series tires. You may just be one of those guys who thinks P-series tires are for posers. If that’s your feeling, then fine, let’s just move on.
As for airing down, I already reported what the Falken reps and professionals have said. There’s a guy in this thread who ran MOAB aired down to 20 on stock size P series and did fine. I’ll stick with what Falken says. I have no regrets at this point with my choice. I’ll consider C load if these fail me but so far there is no need to do so.
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You just used someone airing down tires as evidence to not air down tires? Moab I dont think is known for punctures, but 20psi is aired down (I usually ran my p tires about 18-20psi, sometimes 15 if rougher than normal)
I've never written off p tires or said anything like that they were for posers (maybe you're confusing me with someone), someone made a comment that they didnt air them down because they were p tires and I pointed out that it's actually more important to air them down because they are p tires, not less. To approach the toughness of an lt tire ar full pressure you need to air down a p tire.
I've never written off p tires or said anything like that they were for posers (maybe you're confusing me with someone), someone made a comment that they didnt air them down because they were p tires and I pointed out that it's actually more important to air them down because they are p tires, not less. To approach the toughness of an lt tire ar full pressure you need to air down a p tire.
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Decipher
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I mentioned a guy airing down in MOAB to 20 as evidence you can air them down, but per the manufacturer (and therefore authority on this tire), they say not to go that low. So while that guy did fine, I’m more inclined to stick with the people who made and tested the tire, who recommend keeping them basically at street pressure.
At the end of the day, do what you like. The only problem with this argument is that you’re dispelling bad information for those who aren’t sure what to do. Your opinion is based on just that, your opinion, while I’m reporting what the manufacturer recommends. We’re not gonna see eye to eye on this so we should just move on and wait for people to report failures. I’ve been waiting years to see that (short of M4STER who had a failure running too low and driving too fast for the conditions as he stated).
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Cymon
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After 45k miles one of my Cooper AT3’s 275 LRC fell victim to a screw. It was over just close enough to the side where the patch and plug wasn’t holding air (slow leak). I was hoping to get another 15k out of them, but it wasn’t worth it to replace one tire for a year. It was down to the Cooper’s and Falken’s when I last bought tires. Since the Falken’s were relatively new at that point I went with the trusted Coopers. I put the 265 LRE on my trailer when I swapped the axle and really liked them, so decided to change flavors.
265 70r 17 SL
So far with about 50 miles on them I’m impressed. I didn’t realize how loud the Cooper’s were getting until the swap. These are really quiet! Handling seems good and wet weather traction has been just as good as the Cooper’s so far. I also always had a tough time balancing and would get a the 4runner shimmy between 55mph and 60mph. The Falken’s balanced perfectly the first time and no more shimmy. I used to know when I was getting close to the speed limit and out of habit I keep waiting for the wheel to shake but nothing so far.
Fingers crossed but these are looking like a good choice so far and hopefully will get a little more on the mpg side with the downsize and 5lbs per tire weight savings.
265 70r 17 SL
So far with about 50 miles on them I’m impressed. I didn’t realize how loud the Cooper’s were getting until the swap. These are really quiet! Handling seems good and wet weather traction has been just as good as the Cooper’s so far. I also always had a tough time balancing and would get a the 4runner shimmy between 55mph and 60mph. The Falken’s balanced perfectly the first time and no more shimmy. I used to know when I was getting close to the speed limit and out of habit I keep waiting for the wheel to shake but nothing so far.
Fingers crossed but these are looking like a good choice so far and hopefully will get a little more on the mpg side with the downsize and 5lbs per tire weight savings.
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RedRunner_87
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Just got 255/80's on stock suspension installed last night.
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aaronRR
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Of course the manufacture isn't going to recommend airing down one of their tires. Why would they?
Anyways, I've done about 5000 miles worth of offroading on the 265/70/16 P rated wildpeaks, and always airdown to 18-20PSI without any issues, it's anecdotal but they keep up with the group who ride K02 LTs/C's.
To each their own though, these tires are cheap enough that if I bust one I don't really care, but I personally feel/see no difference between these and the C rated k02s. Other than the wildpeaks being slightly better in rain.
Anyways, I've done about 5000 miles worth of offroading on the 265/70/16 P rated wildpeaks, and always airdown to 18-20PSI without any issues, it's anecdotal but they keep up with the group who ride K02 LTs/C's.
To each their own though, these tires are cheap enough that if I bust one I don't really care, but I personally feel/see no difference between these and the C rated k02s. Other than the wildpeaks being slightly better in rain.
jackjoachim
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How does it drive? Any noticeable differences from stock size?
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RedRunner_87
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So far so good. I have just done city driving so far and I can't really tell a difference. I will be taking it on the highway(75mph speed limit) tomorrow so we will see. I have slight rubbing on full lock going over bumps.
Are the 255/80/17's an E load rating?
RedRunner_87
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Yes they are
The_Green_Wang
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These tires have done so well! On to 55k on them and now buying another set except in 315. They have performed flawlessly off road, on snow, rain, everything. Have not had one issue with them and I'd say I've pushed the limit and it performed.
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MAST4R
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Of course the manufacture isn't going to recommend airing down one of their tires. Why would they?
Anyways, I've done about 5000 miles worth of offroading on the 265/70/16 P rated wildpeaks, and always airdown to 18-20PSI without any issues, it's anecdotal but they keep up with the group who ride K02 LTs/C's.
To each their own though, these tires are cheap enough that if I bust one I don't really care, but I personally feel/see no difference between these and the C rated k02s. Other than the wildpeaks being slightly better in rain.
Finally someone else posting actual mileage. I am in the other boat: I do not air down my P 265 70 17. I aired once for deep volcanic cinders and it was fine. I aired once for rocks and burst a sidewall before I got to the rocks. Aired up, I had one puncture at speed in the desert. Overall, I remain very pleased with these tires' performance even before we mention the price. I have had zero total issues in UT, MT, or parts of AZ other than the Sonoran desert.
Though I am very pleased with the tires, I only got 27,000 miles out the first ones before they got to 6/32 and began showing their age on road, especially under hard braking. But this is true of all my tires used offroad here in AZ and UT.
