New Falken AT tire (A/T3W)

285's made a big difference for me. Rolls over big objects much better. But yea, the crawl ratio sucks. I may switch to 4.56 or 4.88. Still trying to figure out which one to go with. 4.88 makes sense for off-road but will it be bearable at 75 mph is the question. Wish Toyota's had a similar transfer case as a Rubicon geared way down, they we wouldn't have to worry about re-gearing too much.

Most folks I have talked to who went with 4.56 regretted it and wanted 4.88s. Can't say Ive met someone who disliked their 4.88s but yea ...will it be bearable at 75...
 
I don't use my pedal commander off road as stock mapping is perfect for technical. 1st gear low range FTW. I noticed next to no loss in crawl ratios.

Why are you driving around in 4th gear all the time? That makes no sense just get a pedal commander and stop being stubborn. Make your truck shift as it should on the street. About a thousand threads in here with nothing but people raving about it. You are doing a disservice to your driving experience.

Regearing is fairly invasive/expensive surgery on your truck. I'm more then happy with the stock pumpkin, pedal commander, and 33's. Prob going up to a low 34 with no regear or regrets.

The difference between stock and 285 is almost nil.

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I dont feel like spending the money on a pedal commander lol. Plus I have no problem with limiting the car to 4th when im not at highway speeds. From my own experience, I drove a friends 4runner with similar mods but with 4.88s and loved it off and on road. Will likely do 4.88s as I plan to run 295s
 
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I dont feel like spending the money on a pedal commander lol. Plus I have no problem with limiting the car to 4th when im not at highway speeds. From my own experience, I drove a friends 4runner with similar mods but with 4.88s and loved it off and on road. Will likely do 4.88s as I plan to run 295s

Not willing to spend 250 bucks on a pedal commander which is night and day no matter what size tires, but will spend around 2g's for a regear and about a g or more on tires. Just saying... Why not do both?

Best of luck.
 
Not willing to spend 250 bucks on a pedal commander which is night and day no matter what size tires, but will spend around 2g's for a regear and about a g or more on tires. Just saying... Why not do both?

Best of luck.

Super small sample size but my friend didn't notice that much of a difference with it on his 295s. Yea it kept the revs up but he found that MPG improvement and "feel" was much more improved with the regear so I'm less inclined to spend $250 on something that may provide a marginal improvement. The $250 can go to replacing my front skid with steel!

Maybe I'll toss one on after regearing to see how it feels. We shall see!
 
Super small sample size but my friend didn't notice that much of a difference with it on his 295s. Yea it kept the revs up but he found that MPG improvement and "feel" was much more improved with the regear so I'm less inclined to spend $250 on something that may provide a marginal improvement. The $250 can go to replacing my front skid with steel!

Maybe I'll toss one on after regearing to see how it feels. We shall see!

It's remapping the throttle pedal and shift points. It's not a power add on. That's the problem with the pedal commander. People think it's plug and play horsepower it's not that at all.

You don't want it fine but I suggest you try it on your own truck and then come to a conclusion. You will notice the difference big time. You don't on his because he has already regeared and is sitting on 295's. Bet if you turned his off it would be just as much of a moosh pedal as your's.
 
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It's remapping the throttle pedal and shift points. It's not a power add on. That's the problem with the pedal commander. People think it's plug and play horsepower it's not that at all.

You don't want it fine but I suggest you try it on your own truck and then come to a conclusion. You will notice the difference big time. You don't on his because he has already regeared and is sitting on 295's. Bet if you turned his off it would be just as much of a moosh pedal as your's.

I didn't drive it with the PC. He got the PC before he did the regear. Sold it after regearing so never got to try the difference. Apologies for the confusion
 
Made the 1600 mile trek from S Florida to northern Michigan with the new Falkins. Drove much of the way at 85mph with absolutely no vibrations. Smooth as silk.
Haven't driven in snow and ice in over 40 years, but did get a chance to try them out.
They worked better than expected, handled ice very well, slid a lot less than I anticipated. Traction in deeper snow was fun too.
 
Just FYI, $160/tire for the 285/70/17 right now at discounted wheel warehouse. I'm going to get discount tire to match. I haven't looked at them for too long, but to save $70/tire over the KO2 this is a no brainer right? Plus they have tread warranty which BFG doesn't.

Here's the link:
Falken Tires Wildpeak AT3W P285/70R17 117T

In my use, which includes all sorts of AZ offroading but also UT, CO, and MT,

I get 26-28,000 from P metric Wildpeaks before they are at 6/32 which I consider too low for my use. I estimate 35,000 for a set of KO2s given my previous experience with KO2s.

The other consideration would be the Sonoran Desert. Sedona, or anything else outside the Sonoran Desert have not been a problem for the P metric Wildpeak and I have hundreds of desert miles without issues as well. But I also had a puncture at street pressures and a sidewall burst when aired down, which I do not normally do (I do 28-32 off road and 30-32 on road).

So if you do a lot of desert, the extra tread ply of the KO2 is something to consider. Otherwise, C-load KO2 has a two ply sidewall like the Wildpeak. The KO2 does have even little better shoulder guards though those of the Wildpeak are the best by far on any P metric tire.

So I'd say it comes down to the split between desert driving and other driving. I am still mulling a separate set of MTs mostly for desert use in the winter but I am reluctant to go back to two sets. The P-Wildpeak and the C-load KO2 are the best compromises for mixed use, the former better on road, the latter a bit more reliable in the desert.
 
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In my use, which includes all sorts of AZ offroading but also UT, CO, and MT,

I get 26-28,000 from P metric Wildpeaks before they are at 6/32 which I consider too low for my use. I estimate 35,000 for a set of KO2s given my previous experience with KO2s.

The other consideration would be the Sonoran Desert. Sedona, or anything else outside the Sonoran Desert have not been a problem for the P metric Wildpeak and I have hundreds of desert miles without issues as well. But I also had a puncture at street pressures and a sidewall burst when aired down, which I do not normally do (I do 28-32 off road and 30-32 on road).

So if you do a lot of desert, the extra tread ply of the KO2 is something to consider. Otherwise, C-load KO2 has a two ply sidewall like the Wildpeak. The KO2 does have even little better shoulder guards though those of the Wildpeak are the best by far on any P metric tire.

So I'd say it comes down to the split between desert driving and other driving. I am still mulling a separate set of MTs mostly for desert use in the winter but I am reluctant to go back to two sets. The P-Wildpeak and the C-load KO2 are the best compromises for mixed use, the former better on road, the latter a bit more reliable in the desert.

Then I think with them being my first set of AT tires and just as good for mixed use, I'll save the money and if I run through them quickly, I'll upgrade to KO2 next time. Thanks for the input, especially being from southwest!
 
Their initial price is well below everywhere I searched in my size of 265/70R16, but they quoted $70 for S/H, which kills the deal IMO.

DTD offers free shipping so that makes their prices better but not worth leaving the DT family to save $30.

Now if your site does not collect sales tax, then now we have a whole new ball game. :D


Eddie



Just FYI, $160/tire for the 285/70/17 right now at discounted wheel warehouse. I'm going to get discount tire to match. I haven't looked at them for too long, but to save $70/tire over the KO2 this is a no brainer right? Plus they have tread warranty which BFG doesn't.

Here's the link:
Falken Tires Wildpeak AT3W P285/70R17 117T
 
Then I think with them being my first set of AT tires and just as good for mixed use, I'll save the money and if I run through them quickly, I'll upgrade to KO2 next time. Thanks for the input, especially being from southwest!

Their initial price is well below everywhere I searched in my size of 265/70R16, but they quoted $70 for S/H, which kills the deal IMO.

DTD offers free shipping so that makes their prices better but not worth leaving the DT family to save $30.

Now if your site does not collect sales tax, then now we have a whole new ball game. :D


Eddie

Just avoid the temptation of airing them down like people running E loads do. They have to air down for comfort and traction alike but neither is true for P metric. I would definitely not air down under 25 and in fact anything under 28 scares me on a P in rocks (it is still needed in deep stuff like climbing Double Crater near Flagstaff). My sidewalls are completely covered by rock marks with no issues so far at 28 or higher. The one time I burst a sidewall was the one time I ran 25 in rocks--and nothing special at all, just Harquahala Peak, the same kind of terrain that I have done hundreds and hundreds of miles in the Wildpeak at street pressures with no issues.
 
Just avoid the temptation of airing them down like people running E loads do. They have to air down for comfort and traction alike but neither is true for P metric. I would definitely not air down under 25 and in fact anything under 28 scares me on a P in rocks (it is still needed in deep stuff like climbing Double Crater near Flagstaff). My sidewalls are completely covered by rock marks with no issues so far at 28 or higher. The one time I burst a sidewall was the one time I ran 25 in rocks--and nothing special at all, just Harquahala Peak, the same kind of terrain that I have done hundreds and hundreds of miles in the Wildpeak at street pressures with no issues.

Join the darkside, become a LT user!!!
 
Join the darkside, become a LT user!!!

I was! I had LTD KO2s though not on the 4R.

I am not a fan of LTs for a do-it-all tire but will see.

I am planning CO passes for summer and the Wildpeaks will be too old by then to be trusted on the edges of the abyss :) I have used P metrics there, but new, not old.

So I will probably be shopping around Labor Day or July 4.

But there is no tire that wows me right now and at the end I may relent and just go back to having two sets. SR5 wheels are 200/set and having a second set also allows using each set more fully (4/32nds) instead of throwing tires at 6/32nds like I do now.
 
Their initial price is well below everywhere I searched in my size of 265/70R16, but they quoted $70 for S/H, which kills the deal IMO.

DTD offers free shipping so that makes their prices better but not worth leaving the DT family to save $30.

Now if your site does not collect sales tax, then now we have a whole new ball game. :D


Eddie

This is where I got mine. I thought it was a pretty good deal.
Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/70R17 | TireBuyer
 

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