pableaux
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Based on how lightly you go off-road, I'd stick with the metric/SL. No need for the unnecessary weight and rigidity.
New Falken AT tire (A/T3W)
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Based on how lightly you go off-road, I'd stick with the metric/SL. No need for the unnecessary weight and rigidity.
the non-silica compounds should last longer they just won't be as good in the wet or cold conditions as the P-tire
the non-silica LT version is still very good in wet conditions, it's much better than KO2s
dirtfreak20
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Unfortunately I already have the LT ones so the question is would there be value in me selling the LT and getting the SL ones?
pableaux
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Can you return them? There may be some value in swapping them, but it might not be worth the hassle. That would be up to you.
Elan750
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I jumped on it too when it went down to $97. Still in awe haha. Getting mounted today!
TexasTJ
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I've got just over 20k miles on the stock size SL set now. Immediately took a 5000+ mile road trip after getting them installed. So far, still as smooth and quiet as new. Tread wear seems to be good as well, rotating every 5k miles.
eddielasvegas
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Anybody have a link/lead/screenshot on a Wildpeak A/T3W in 265/70R16 for under $115? I missed the boat a few days ago when they were about $105.
The prices have gone up like crazy and I need a spare.
Thanks,
Eddie
The prices have gone up like crazy and I need a spare.
Thanks,
Eddie
MAST4R
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I posted that in my review. It is a separate thread. It goes like this for tires subjected to heavy offroad use:
First 4-5,000 miles: superb in all ways but initial wear is awful
Next 6-10,000: still excellent and wear is very good now
After 15,000 until 25,000: still great on road and very good offroad but rock performance is no longer what it is at the start
After 25,000 miles: deteriorated performance, chunking everywhere, braking starts suffering on road. I replaced at 26-27,000.
Again, you can bet that very few SL sets have seen this kind of offroad use from the Mexico to the Canada borders. I wasn't wearing my KO2s any better (different vehicle).
Per Discount Tire store data, the LT version lasts much longer than the SL. Ditto anecdotally from this thread.
If you are running them here in the desert you definitely want a good spare because you will get a puncture. It is only a matter of time. I got my third on Saturday and this time it is 100% on the tire. There is nothing I could have done better. Tire pressure was 29 so not too high. Air down lower the SL version and then you burst a sidewall. So I am keeping mine for trips to Montana/Canada and getting ATZ P3 for around here (if I find LTE too much, probably swap for LTC Ko2 though I am not a great fan of the KO2).
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Discount tire probably won't price match from a screenshot... if they do I may have to do this too
MAST4R
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They would want the website at the moment. I got a set of Falken street tires for our Subaru two weeks ago and they even called Walmart to verify that they were really selling a 165$ tire for 105$.
Decipher
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It may depend on your local DT. They price matched my tires in the past on screen shots only, but I’ve been a long time customer so that may play a role.
Also, I agree the KO2 is underwhelming but I know the weight of the LT-C is appealing to you. Is the weight of the LT-C Wildpeaks keeping you away from considering giving those a try?
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SnowYeti
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We have been having regular snow after warmer days, bad combo for ice. Last week I was slowly approaching a stop sign and couldn’t stop, slid through the stop sign and was able to turn right with the ABS avoiding a collision. These were SLs on my 4R. I grew up in Colorado and have skied since I was a kid. Worst ice traction I have ever had, but this is the first season that I have not had dedicated ice and snow tires.
I have SLs on my Avalanche and LTs on my JK. So out of curiosity I turned around and grabbed the JK. It was worse on that same ice patch. But I will say the LT tires are much better in deep snow. (Deeper tread)
The 4R just hit 10k with the SL tires and compared to the LT has noticeably more tire wear. The LTs still look new with similar mileage.
I do think for AT tires they both have the best snow performance for what I have owned and driven. Plus they are smooth and the noise is very low for an AT tire. The difference in the JK going from Duratracs to the AT3Ws was HUGE, so much better in every way.
My daughter tore her ACL last year in soccer so we are not skiing this year. Next year when we are back at it and skiing regularly I will be finding a true winter tire and go back to switching out tires for the seasons. Don’t know what yet, or if I will go studded, but I need a tire that is safer. Maybe Nokia, studded maybe. Wish there was a true winter AT that could be studded.
I think if I only dealt with ice and snow on occasion the AT3Ws would be great, just knowing their limitations.
I have SLs on my Avalanche and LTs on my JK. So out of curiosity I turned around and grabbed the JK. It was worse on that same ice patch. But I will say the LT tires are much better in deep snow. (Deeper tread)
The 4R just hit 10k with the SL tires and compared to the LT has noticeably more tire wear. The LTs still look new with similar mileage.
I do think for AT tires they both have the best snow performance for what I have owned and driven. Plus they are smooth and the noise is very low for an AT tire. The difference in the JK going from Duratracs to the AT3Ws was HUGE, so much better in every way.
My daughter tore her ACL last year in soccer so we are not skiing this year. Next year when we are back at it and skiing regularly I will be finding a true winter tire and go back to switching out tires for the seasons. Don’t know what yet, or if I will go studded, but I need a tire that is safer. Maybe Nokia, studded maybe. Wish there was a true winter AT that could be studded.
I think if I only dealt with ice and snow on occasion the AT3Ws would be great, just knowing their limitations.
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the LT-C wildpeaks are incredibly comfortable on road, i wanted an LT tire for offroad but hate how e-range tires feel on the 4runner so I got the C range wildpeaks despite the weight and they ride really well
I previously had C-range KO2's in 265/70 and now have C-range wildpeaks in 275/70 and despite being bigger and heavier i strongly prefer and recommend them over the KO2s, they were much easier to balance, ride smoother on-road, and are significantly better than the KO2s on wet asphalt.
Going from stock p tires to the KO2's I lost ~1mpg, but going from KO2s to the wildpeaks i haven't seen a noticeable change in mpg (it has to be a little bit worse just because of physics, but it's not enough of a difference that i can see it)
eddielasvegas
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Just an FYI for this thread. WP A/T3W in 265/70/R16 is $123 on amazon.
I sent a PM request to DT. $105 would have been ideal, but I can live with $123.
Eddie
I sent a PM request to DT. $105 would have been ideal, but I can live with $123.
Eddie
Ballsidaho
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Got the 265/70/17 SLs when they were $97, put them on my 5th gen and Wrangler. I don't notice any noise increase. They look fantastic. Much better than the the stock tires in the snow. When we used to need 4wd to get out of a steep snow and ice driveway, we only need 2wd now. Love them. Cant speak to longevity but at that price you can afford to buy them twice.
How much offroading are you doing in the winter? I have a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta 9 studded winter tires on and they do just fine for light trails. I've run them down as low as 20 psi without a de-bead several times.
DallasTRDPro
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I might look into the 275's for my TRD Pro. I'm assuming these will fit with minor trimming??
dirtfreak20
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Is that about a 10lb difference a tire? I thought I remembered the C rated wildpeaks to be even heavier than the E. You don’t notice any difference in weight from the KO2s to the wildpeaks in terms of weight or acceleration?
dirtfreak20
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I believe the general consensus is that 275s fit with no mods needed or if any minor. Each rig is a little different though and keep in mind the wildpeaks run slightly larger than other tires of the same size.
