New Falken AT tire (A/T3W)

I have these in stock size, 265/70/17. SCRunner12's review is pretty spot on :bravo: They are pretty quiet compared to stock tires. So far, I'm happy with them especially since I got them for a good price. I haven't had a chance to wheel with them yet, but when I do, I'll chime back in.

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These wheels look good! What wheels are they? width and offset?
 
I've been researching wheels and tires for the last week and I'm having a hard time finding an answer. I finally decided to give up and ask the questions I was curious about. I honestly haven't seen anyone on here with a front leveling kit only. At least not where I have been looking.

I have a 2019 TRD Pro with a Cornfed 3/4" Front Spacer Leveling kit. I know that 275/70/17 will work with stock wheels on that setup for KO2s because someone was generous enough to post a picture of their setup without a front leveling kit. I figured if they fit without the leveling kit then they should fit with the leveling kit.

I have a few questions.

1. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications?
2. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications?
3. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications?
4. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications?
 
I've been researching wheels and tires for the last week and I'm having a hard time finding an answer. I finally decided to give up and ask the questions I was curious about. I honestly haven't seen anyone on here with a front leveling kit only. At least not where I have been looking.

I have a 2019 TRD Pro with a Cornfed 3/4" Front Spacer Leveling kit. I know that 275/70/17 will work with stock wheels on that setup for KO2s because someone was generous enough to post a picture of their setup without a front leveling kit. I figured if they fit without the leveling kit then they should fit with the leveling kit.

I have a few questions.

1. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications?
2. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications?
3. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications?
4. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications?

1. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications? YES
2. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications? MAYBE
3. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications? NO
4. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications?[/QUOTE] NO
 
I've been researching wheels and tires for the last week and I'm having a hard time finding an answer. I finally decided to give up and ask the questions I was curious about. I honestly haven't seen anyone on here with a front leveling kit only. At least not where I have been looking.

I have a 2019 TRD Pro with a Cornfed 3/4" Front Spacer Leveling kit. I know that 275/70/17 will work with stock wheels on that setup for KO2s because someone was generous enough to post a picture of their setup without a front leveling kit. I figured if they fit without the leveling kit then they should fit with the leveling kit.
Here are some pics with a 1.5" Cornfed spacer up front with AT3W's in 285/70-17 with slight articulation. No rubbing with a minimum of 1" clearance on the front fenders or back at the mud flaps. No clearance issues with the UCA's either.
 

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1. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications? YES
2. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with stock wheels without any further modifications? MAYBE
3. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 275/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications? NO
4. Will the Falken A/T3W fit my setup in 285/70/17 with Method 17x8.5 0 offset wheels without any further modifications? NO

I wonder is the KO2 will fit with the Method Wheels and 275/70/17 or do I need to stick with the factory tire size if I want to go with the Method wheels?
 
I'm looking to replace my stock Dunlop Grandtrek AT20 tires, and the falken seem to be my first choice.

Living in the west coast of canada, so plenty of rain and wet snow. I don't do any "wheeling", but regularly go offroad/up forestry roads to access trails. Looking to stay with stock 265/70/17 size.

The Falken come in two load ratings in this size - SL and E. It SEEMS E would be overkill, but is SL fine? Can you air down the tire for offroad travel (to reduce puncture risk and more comfortable ride)?

I've heard elsewhere that load C is a nice middle ground, but of course this tire doesn't come in C in 265s :)
 
I inquired to Falken directly about the SL vs E-rated 265, and I saw elsewhere they provided a nice detailed response to a customer about their situation.

Was a bit surprised this is all I got back. Not very helpful :(

Thanks for reaching out to us with your question, unfortunately I cannot recommend to you airing down the tire below what is posted on the door placard for original tire fitment. For the questions you are asking you might want to look on 4Runner forums and ask what other people recommend.
 
I inquired to Falken directly about the SL vs E-rated 265, and I saw elsewhere they provided a nice detailed response to a customer about their situation.

Was a bit surprised this is all I got back. Not very helpful :(

Expected due to liability. Can also depend on the person who responded haha. Based on what you're doing with your car, I don't think you'll ever need an E-rated tire.
 
I'm looking to replace my stock Dunlop Grandtrek AT20 tires, and the falken seem to be my first choice.

Living in the west coast of canada, so plenty of rain and wet snow. I don't do any "wheeling", but regularly go offroad/up forestry roads to access trails. Looking to stay with stock 265/70/17 size.

The Falken come in two load ratings in this size - SL and E. It SEEMS E would be overkill, but is SL fine? Can you air down the tire for offroad travel (to reduce puncture risk and more comfortable ride)?

I've heard elsewhere that load C is a nice middle ground, but of course this tire doesn't come in C in 265s :)


We run our stock size SL rated AT3Ws all the way down to 15PSI without any issues off-road in desert and rocks. This tire does especially well in wet snow and mud between 28-36PSI with our heavy loads.

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We were at 18PSI for the last 2 photos.
 
We run our stock size SL rated AT3Ws all the way down to 15PSI without any issues off-road in desert and rocks. This tire does especially well in wet snow and mud between 28-36PSI with our heavy loads.

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We were at 18PSI for the last 2 photos.



I feel like this alone seals the deal for me! You have a ton more gear on your rig, and tackling more difficult obstacles than I would! Thanks!

Sidenote: As someone who has never yet aired down, how do you actually determine what to air down to? I've seen general guidelines on terrain type... but I've heard everything from 20-25psi on "gravel roads" which is a decent range!
 
I feel like this alone seals the deal for me! You have a ton more gear on your rig, and tackling more difficult obstacles than I would! Thanks!

Sidenote: As someone who has never yet aired down, how do you actually determine what to air down to? I've seen general guidelines on terrain type... but I've heard everything from 20-25psi on "gravel roads" which is a decent range!

There is good reason behind there being such a range. Airing down is discouraged on road going vehicles because of stability and heat build up. Most people and all manufacturers will tell you that you can air down "at your own risk" for those two reasons alone.

The biggest factors for airing down are traction and comfort.
  • Traction - the lower you go the more your tire tread flexes and the larger your contact patch.
  • Comfort - the more flex you have in your tires, the more they will absorb small to medium bumps.

To a lesser extent, you must contend with ride height, heat buildup, bounce, and sway. Once you start airing down from the "door specs", you are outside of what the engineers assume you are doing with the vehicle - which is mostly road driving.

My suggestion:

When driving over rough terrain, do so without airing down first. Take note of how the vehicle bobs, bounces, and is generally harsh.

Then air down to 25PSI and see how big a difference it makes on handling and comfort.

Then air down to 20PSI (you shouldn't need to go any lower than that), and see if you like it.

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Airing down has just as much to do with weight, handling, and comfort as it does with traction.

...and always air back up before doing highway speeds.
 
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while you're going through the process of checking pressures also check tire temps before and after you are driving down gravel roads, and if your tires are noticeably hotter the pressure is too low for the speed you're driving

there are rules of thumb about what temp increase is appropriate for tires and some people bring thermometers and stuff but i just use my palm and back of my hand - tires should be warm but not hot to the touch.

you'll calibrate your trusty hand thermometer after awhile of just feeling your tires in normal situations, get in the habit for awhile of just feeling your tire when you get out of the vehicle on regular road driving with them properly inflated - that's the temp they are supposed to be. your hand thermometer can also be good for finding if a brake is dragging and checking trailer wheel bearings among other things
 
while you're going through the process of checking pressures also check tire temps before and after you are driving down gravel roads, and if your tires are noticeably hotter the pressure is too low for the speed you're driving

there are rules of thumb about what temp increase is appropriate for tires and some people bring thermometers and stuff but i just use my palm and back of my hand - tires should be warm but not hot to the touch.

you'll calibrate your trusty hand thermometer after awhile of just feeling your tires in normal situations, get in the habit for awhile of just feeling your tire when you get out of the vehicle on regular road driving with them properly inflated - that's the temp they are supposed to be. your hand thermometer can also be good for finding if a brake is dragging and checking trailer wheel bearings among other things

Also... if you have an OBD Reader like ScanGaugeII, you can get your tire pressures AND temperatures from the TPMS system. ;)
 
I'm looking to replace my stock Dunlop Grandtrek AT20 tires, and the falken seem to be my first choice.

Living in the west coast of canada, so plenty of rain and wet snow. I don't do any "wheeling", but regularly go offroad/up forestry roads to access trails. Looking to stay with stock 265/70/17 size.

The Falken come in two load ratings in this size - SL and E. It SEEMS E would be overkill, but is SL fine? Can you air down the tire for offroad travel (to reduce puncture risk and more comfortable ride)?

I've heard elsewhere that load C is a nice middle ground, but of course this tire doesn't come in C in 265s :)

I will completely agree with what [MENTION=73851]007Tacoma[/MENTION] stated above. Over 20,000 miles on our SL 265 Falkens on and off-road with only positives. Great in rain, snow, rocks, mud, sand...you name it, they handled it. We even tow a 2,000lb travel trailer on our adventures and they have really held up to towing as well.

We do air down, 25 psi gravel/light off-road, 20 psi rock, 15 psi sand and have had no issues.
 

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Just put a set of 5 stock size P265/70R17s on my 2020 Venture today. They look awesome and I'm pleased to report no shimmy or shake on the highway at speeds up to ~75mph. A little more tire noise than the stockers, but not objectionable at all. I'll probably try to take them up to the mountains to find a bit of snow this weekend.

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