"New Grease for the Solid axle"

[tranny Frank]

This is True

And I'll repeat myself AGAIN:
You keep lieing, I'll keep calling you a liar.
It's not even an insult or slander at this point (well kinda), it's just plain truth.

I really don't kow how you can keep on with this rambling nonsense, when you have been proven wrong, told you are wrong by MANY MANY MANY people that know a lot more than you do, even shown pictures that prove you wrong.
Your story keeps changing, trying to keep up with your nonsense, and everyone sees it but you.

I'll also repeat again:
You cannot "re-educate me", "bring me into the light", or any of your other psychobabble, when your whole basis for it is WRONG. It just doesn't work that way.

One the real old Jeeps before the days of Improved machining the axle end float was adjusted by gaskets under the spindle,

I forget right off hand what the min spec for float was but the max allowable was .088,

while no specifications where given for the newer axles regardless something to check when tearing down,

 

[tranny Frank]

Grease is not interesting,

Working the lubricant into the trunnion bearings,

While shown here is a conventional hand pack I have found that you can just run a bead of the lube around the back side off the bearing and spin it in the race and it will work its way thru,,,

On this note be sure to get the proper trunnion bearing, with the correct thrust angle,

While for instance there are bearings that will fit they do not have the "proprietary thrust angle for this application,

Now this older Wally axle did have a correct thrust angle on the bearing for this application,

the Newer Wally axles do not, so make sure your getting the proper bearing,

These types of contact angles are for load in the other direction such as in a wheel bearing, but these trunnion bearings are loaded of course ( for the most part) a different direction, Radial load and axial load,

 

[tranny Frank]

Intermission

Then of course the bearing preload of 12-16 lbs measured without the wiper seal installed, just as the knuckle begins its sweep,

Then Fill up the wheel bearings, adjust the wheel bearing preload to ???

I will have to double check but OMW said torque to 40lbs and then back off 1/6 of a turn ?

Adhesion demonstration of the OMW Goop,

Then A few months later inspecting the axle,

 

[tranny Frank]

Air Test

So When inspecting the Wally axle months later I decided to do a air bleed down test I had heard about, that was done back in the day by military mechanics

Rigged a little fitting and regulator and stuck 5 psi to it and darned if that lil Jap axle I mean Wally axle hold a pound of air pressure, with the OMW goop

 

[tranny Frank]

Rixatus Liciferous Perpetua

Some thoughts from Old Man Willies on the subject

occasionally you will find a Deep groove in the ball in the straight ahead position,
not a whole lot you can do about this but try to smooth it off as best as possible as mention by OMW

Exploded view

 

[tranny Frank]

Intermission is almost over

Now this grease can be used in other wheel hub applications, this 1995 Ford Ranger, same wheel seal, exact , some things never change,

And since this grease is pretty much incompatible with any other type of grease, it is required to disassemble the locking hub and clean it,

Actually this Ranger/Explorer hub is well sealed,

so Old School goop in a newer Ranger, any much newer than this the wheel bearings are not serviceable ,,,

Removing spindle, a lot of time see these spindles hammered from removal, this tool works slick or use a block of wood as to not bugger up the spindle, can make bearings difficult to slide on and off if it is beat directly with a hammer,

This Ranger had a metal clad spindle seal, which is a bit better the other style is just a molded rubber seal, a area of concern actually for me if it would contain this semi fluid grease, but does the job, but a seal like this (metal Clad) bit better,

 

[Rix]

Yours after 6 months.

Then A few months later inspecting the axle,

Mine after 6 years.

What frank says the knuckle should look like

What they should really look like (again)

 

[tranny Frank]

Ball shots,

Now Granted Wallys Balls on that old nasty mini yota truck where about the saddest , grooved pitted worn out things but it still kept the semi fluid grease in them,

Still a acceptable level of discharge from the balls, Class 1 if you want to get all technical about it,

Now not to say that these domestic axles are better sealed and the Integral wiper Dana wiper sealed better, ( because that would be blaspheming)

but this old Ford axle,

after months,

Sure you have nothing on your 6 year old ball Rixxer, but that is not so good dirt is being wiped in the thing if it ever would have been off road,

But you didnt let me finish the intermission and posting picts of the Trade secret super goo in the Ford Ranger pile,

And as you can see 4 runner folks, Rixxer is getting desperate, posting pictures of the Axle before I worked on it, that the owner had been filling with 140 W oil,
and pictures of the Trashed Core axle I got just to measure, and compare,

And it is important that this grease stays contained, this Trade Secret Toyota Super Goo, TSTSG is about the nastiest , most disgusting vile stuff known to man,

Absolutely disgusting, It stinks, sticks to stuff like you wouldnt believe, just horrendous,

But these axles sure do like it,,

 

[Rix]

frank, YOU'RE the one that said the knuckle balls should be "gooey" and dripping with snot and grease.
It is, of course, WRONG.

 

[tranny Frank]

Gooey Yes, Dripping no,

frank, YOU'RE the one that said the knuckle balls should be "gooey" and dripping with snot and grease.
It is, of course, WRONG.

Rix,

A properly functioning, set of balls will discharge, and coat the bare steel, but not drip

A improper non discharging set of balls like you have pictured do not provide protection from the elements, also dirt, water and contaminates get inside the ball with your "Fixed approach"

And may look nice but not work, as long or as well,

No Rixxer its better to have properly functioning fully discharging balls,

 

[Rix]

If that was true, frank, the landcruisers I've taken apart while new would have had dirt and water and all that B.S. you're trying to say in them.
They didn't.
The numerous cruisers and trucks I've taken apart in the last 15 years would have been the same way. They weren't.

Your understanding of the way the knuckle sweeps and wipers work is very poor.

long story short: You seriously have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[tranny Frank]

Eco Seal my ass

If that was true, frank, the landcruisers I've taken apart while new would have had dirt and water and all that B.S. you're trying to say in them.
They didn't.
The numerous cruisers and trucks I've taken apart in the last 15 years would have been the same way. They weren't.

Your understanding of the way the knuckle sweeps and wipers work is very poor.

long story short: You seriously have no idea what you're talking about.

No Rixatus,

My understanding of how these knuckle seals work is right on track, dead on

and I can even take The "Master Toyota Propagandist" Idaho Doug to back me on this,

It is normal for a build up of grease @ the end of the knuckle sweep,

You see these propagandist do mix in a little truth and fact here and there,

Let me look for the exact quote, my wording is not as eloquent,

Here it is

"Another seal (STEERING KNUCKLE SEAL) keeps the thick grease from leaking out of the sphere onto the outside of the spherical surface you can see. It is normal for there to be some weeping here, and these seals slide directly against the outside of the sphere, Another seal (STEERING KNUCKLE SEAL) keeps the thick grease from leaking out of the sphere onto the outside of the spherical surface you can see. It is normal for there to be some weeping here, and these seals slide directly against the outside of the sphere, leaving "edges" of thick grease built up at the limits of the wheel's turning ability. Normal.


Idaho Doug, Master Propagandist on Mudd, Called the way and the light of all things landcruiser by his followers,

So Rixxer as you can see by the pictures you posted of your "Fix" no build up of grease, because your using a #2, this Another seal (STEERING KNUCKLE SEAL) keeps the thick grease from leaking out of the sphere onto the outside of the spherical surface you can see. It is normal for there to be some weeping here, and these seals slide directly against the outside of the sphere, leaving "edges" of thick grease built up at the limits of the wheel's turning ability. Normal.


Well sure , but not with a #2 grease as you can see in your pictures Rixxer, just dont happen, so this "leaving "edges" of thick grease built up at the limits of the wheel's turning ability. Normal."

Is #1 grade or thinner collecting dust, and grime turning it Thick,,

My understanding of this situation is far more in depth I can see past the bull ****, you cant, but maybee you can see no build up of grease at the limits of the wheels turning ability,

Wow, you see how good this guy is, super smooth, Read it and weep Rixxer

And you never answered the question, did Toyota production build a leaky POS when domestic axles of this same design go for 30 plus years untouched ?

Answer it, or step up to level 3 Rixxer,

I gave you a put up so you would shut up but keep coming back with your Toyota Sales phyco babble, well if you keep doing that I will sit right here a pick you apart,

I dont care how many axles you say you fixed with a happy little axle seal , Your Brainwashed, Deal with it,

 

[Rix]

If I was brainwashed, I would be believing you.
I'm not.
Get over it.

I build happy axles, you build leaky ones with a higher chance of grease getting cooked.

You want to talk seriously frank, POST UP WHAT YOUR GOO IS.

You WOULD NOT do this on any other board, lets see if you have the balls to do it here.



Bye now.

 

[tranny Frank]

The Dodge Brothers Build

If that was true, frank, the landcruisers I've taken apart while new would have had dirt and water and all that B.S. you're trying to say in them.
They didn't.
The numerous cruisers and trucks I've taken apart in the last 15 years would have been the same way. They weren't.

Your understanding of the way the knuckle sweeps and wipers work is very poor.

long story short: You seriously have no idea what you're talking about.

1966 Dodge OE grease, Rebuilt in 2010, just needed seals,

Now thats a good run, factory OE Goop, Described in the manuals as Short fiber grease,
A form of the TSTSG,

How bout that build, and looks like its got the ideal rust preventive feature ,

classic

Rixxer Did Toyota build a leaky POS that dont last a fraction of the Time of Domestic piles,

Answer or move To Level 3 you poor brainwashed grease monkey,

 

[tranny Frank]

What is my Goo ?

If I was brainwashed, I would be believing you.
I'm not.
Get over it.

I build happy axles, you build leaky ones with a higher chance of grease getting cooked.

You want to talk seriously frank, POST UP WHAT YOUR GOO IS.

You WOULD NOT do this on any other board, lets see if you have the balls to do it here.



Bye now.

Well now Rixxer we will have to move into a whole nother level of level 3,

If you want to jump right to the end of things while still staunchly in Denial of your pathetic brainwashed condition,
I spose we can, if it will help you,

But that is where it gets well, legal, It is my Intellectual property, and you would have to sign a "Confidentiality agreement"

But I will if that.s what it takes, but remember you said I was to stupid to draw up such a contract,

So kinda stuck what do we do ? afterall I am just a grease monkey like yourself,

How bout just not worry what the heck TSTSG is and just put it in the axles,
and see how it works,

But if we have to sure, get a thing drawn up, and I will tell you all that I know,

Stay in the light Rixxer,

 

[tranny Frank]

If I was brainwashed

If I was brainwashed, I would be believing you.
I'm not.
Get over it.

I build happy axles, you build leaky ones with a higher chance of grease getting cooked.

You want to talk seriously frank, POST UP WHAT YOUR GOO IS.

You WOULD NOT do this on any other board, lets see if you have the balls to do it here.



Bye now.

"If I was brainwashed"

Rixxer you where, no doubt about it, plain as day, Black and White,

But As Your "Exit Counselor" I am here to help, and the best way I can help is ?

let me know,:thanks:

 

[Rix]

Yeah I didnt think so.
You want people to buy your stuff, and you don't even say what it IS.

 

[tranny Frank]

Steering Knuckle lube

Yeah I didnt think so.
You want people to buy your stuff, and you don't even say what it IS.

Its steering knuckle grease,

you put it in that lil hole on the knuckle, pump it in there,

It is a proprietary mineral oil, proprietary insoluble moly additives, and may contain other Trade secret non hazardous ingredients,

Set up a axle to test, I will draw up the 'Confidentiality contract" set you up ,

Then you can professionally Install the TSTSG in the axles, because as I have told you several times, dont really care about selling grease more so to get you out,

Give you the goop secrets and set you up, a "New Leader" in the Toyota world,

Longfield cant do it or dont think he can,,, but You Rixxer, You can,

So you know how to get a hold of me,,, Rixxer the new "Leader"

 

[Rix]

Shut up about Longfield already.
And Kurt, and Marlin crawler, and on and on.
Put up or shut up frank.
I already know you won't.
You KNOW as soon as you do, you'll be left without a leg to stand on, your grease will instantly be able to be proven inferior to stuff that people can buy at any parts store.
And incorrect for Toyota applications to boot.

You KNOW this.
So do I.
THAT'S why you won't post what it is.

 

[ur7x]

This is fascinating:snacker:,

I'm learning so much about trucks that I will never own, and curious grease that I will never buy.