New member needs help with upgrades

Doug494

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I am working with my son on his first vehicle purchase. We looked at many pics from this site and he likes this look. I prefer the blacked out offroad look, but he and his mother win this round.

Anyway, I have some questions on how to get there.

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So I think that is a 4th gen sport model.

Custom grill
Custom headlamps?
Custom tires and rims (what size are those? I'm not well versed in wheels)
Lifted slightly or just leveled?

Anybody have this look in silver, or in a 3rd gen? Is there any reason to avoid the 3rd gen, other than I would like him to have side airbags?

Thanks
 
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Thats a third gen. And your going to get alot of hate from this forum with that. This is more offroad intended. About 99% of us think that looks like complete crap. Also think about those rims a new driver hits pot holes and curbs more often and will be less careful so your more likely to be dealing with bent rims. My first car had rims with low profile tires and i was always bending a rim. Also alot of those vehicle like that have alot of cheap things just thrown on or together for looks. But everyone has different opinions.
 
Wow :whipping2

OK How about a little direction?

I thought the hood scoop was a 4th gen sport model. The front looked more like a 3rd gen but I am not sure.

I agree I may not want that low of a profile for the same reason you mentioned, but I think I could get similar with more standard sizing.

What about the lift amount?

And I've been to the pimped forum and I don't think of this a pimped and didn't see much of this there. I think of it more as dressed up.
 
Dressed for the party or dressed for the woods... everyone is entitled to their preference.

Doug, you can expect a bunch of thoughtless crap if you post pics like that here; just expect it. That said, if you forgo the pics, there is plenty of info that will be useful when it comes to (your son) making that vehicle your/his own.

Look in the appropriate sections for guidance and use the forum search. Most of your questions will have been asked and answered at least a few times before.

Best of luck, regardless of how you mod it, its a great platform to start with.
 
This is a 99-02 3rd Gen Highlander or Sport Edition.

From what I can see:

- big wheels. 20"-22"
- possibly lifted/leveled
- factory skid plate
- aftermarket fog/driving lights in lower grille
- HID's in factory projector fog lights
- aftermarket headlamp housings with HID bulbs
- aftermarket (probably billet) grill
- bug deflector
- maybe a hood scoop insert
- radar detector
- black strip across the upper windshield
- dark tint
- vent visors

That's about all I got, and should do the trick for you.

Absolutely no reason to avoid a good 3rd gen whatsoever. Solid truck and can be had a decent prices now.

Hope that helps and good luck. I've seen 1st posts similar to yours that didn't fair too well. Don't let it get it to you.
 
Thanks

Superman

Love the Stormtrooper look. I'll have to show him your truck. All the blackout pics I showed him were darker colors. Only thing pushing me towards 4th gen is the availability of side AB.

OK I think I know;

I like the look of yours with the 2.5/1.5 lift. I assume the pic I posted is more than that due to 20+" wheels. I don't like the idea of spacers, so that pushes me to lift coils and shocks. I think I saw a kit online this weekend for $700, just can't remember where (adjustable Blistens?) If I go with the Blistens, I can look at SR5s in addition to Sports cause they will improve the ride also?

That keeps me at 17" or 18" wheels, depending on tire selection for no rubbing. This will be more of a DD so I shouldn't have the big sidewall Off-Road tires.

Thanks for the rest on the HIDs.
He better not have a radar det.

jd

The crap doesn't bother me. I have no choice but to post pics because I can't tell the extent of lift and tire size from a pic and that is the only way I can start the build plan.

Most of the people who don't go hard core trail, don't seem to put details on their mods so its hard to tell what I am looking at. I went through alot of the truck of the month pics, but the build info just isn't there.

After cruising this site all weekend I can say most regulars don't realize how much information there is here and deciphering it can be rough.

Luckily this will be a longer term project for us to get him comfortable with working on a vehicle.
 
Superman

Love the Stormtrooper look. I'll have to show him your truck. All the blackout pics I showed him were darker colors. Only thing pushing me towards 4th gen is the availability of side AB.

OK I think I know;

I like the look of yours with the 2.5/1.5 lift. I assume the pic I posted is more than that due to 20+" wheels. I don't like the idea of spacers, so that pushes me to lift coils and shocks. I think I saw a kit online this weekend for $700, just can't remember where (adjustable Blistens?) If I go with the Blistens, I can look at SR5s in addition to Sports cause they will improve the ride also?

That keeps me at 17" or 18" wheels, depending on tire selection for no rubbing. This will be more of a DD so I shouldn't have the big sidewall Off-Road tires.

Thanks for the rest on the HIDs.
He better not have a radar det.

jd

The crap doesn't bother me. I have no choice but to post pics because I can't tell the extent of lift and tire size from a pic and that is the only way I can start the build plan.

Most of the people who don't go hard core trail, don't seem to put details on their mods so its hard to tell what I am looking at. I went through alot of the truck of the month pics, but the build info just isn't there.

After cruising this site all weekend I can say most regulars don't realize how much information there is here and deciphering it can be rough.

Luckily this will be a longer term project for us to get him comfortable with working on a vehicle.

No problem. I appreciate the compliment. I don't think that the picture you posted is more that 2.5" lift. You can actually fit up to 24" wheels on these trucks with no lift. It's all about tire/wheel ratio. Wheel size goes up, side wall height decreases. We've got a very active member (riceandpho) with a 4th gen on 22's and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a lift. You can use fitment guides on tirerack.com to see what fits. I needed a lift to fit mine because I went up in overall diameter from 30.5" tires on 17" wheels to 32" tires on 20" wheels when I had my 2.5/1.5.

I really wouldn't rule out the idea of a spacer lift/level if you're looking to lift. They'll save you a lot of money and doing a full suspension upgrade is overkill if you're not going to use it off road. The factory suspension is very sufficient for daily driving and spacers will not affect your ride quality. Drive one and you'll see. You may be talking about the Toytec/Bilstein lift, but $700 is a killer price if so. Even so, you're talking $700 vs. $150 for a Daystar 2.5/1.5.

As far being able to look at SR5's as well as Sports, I assume it's because you're interested in the X-REAS. Yeah, do one or the other, if you're set on upgrading, just get the SR5 and forego paying extra for the Sport suspension. Even if you did get a Sport, you may find that you scrap that system for a traditional aftermarket system eventually, depending on it's age. But you mentioned being interested in side air bags and I'm not sure if those are standard on any models or optional on all of them, but you may find them harder to find on SR5's... I'm not sure about that one, but I don't think mine has them... I could be wrong.

Also, a more generous side way will offer you more protection off road, but it also can yeild a smoother ride on road. A smaller side wall will improve handling on road, but offer little protection off road and will provide a rougher ride on road.

Hope that helps. If you got any more questions, just ask. Good luck.
 
OMG THAT IS THE UGLIEST 4RUNNER EVER!!!! :flamethrwoer2: KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!! P.S. the fog lamps look like buckteeth:barf::flipoff:
 
OMG THAT IS THE UGLIEST 4RUNNER EVER!!!! :flamethrwoer2: KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!! P.S. the fog lamps look like buckteeth:barf::flipoff:
One trip down a forest service road will take care of all that bling.

Doug, who is building this rig you or your son? It sounds like your son wants a pimped take my girl to the prom ride but you would prefer something that wont fall apart going down a trail.

I guess you could have both if your son is dating Daisy Duke (lucky kid)

Good luck with the project. At least you have found a great source for information (along with a little slapping too)
 
The Old Man Emu kit is very popular if you're looking to replace the entire suspension. Just don't get springs that are too stiff if it's not going to be used off road.

You can fit anything from 18-22s with decent sized tires on the OME or the daystar kit. The tire size superman has may be a little bigger than you'll want him having if he isn't going to be off roading.


Have you looked through the lift & tires central thread at the top of the forum? It's long but there are A TON of combinations there that would fit the bill for what I think you're looking for..
 
Check out my build thread, I have a pic of my old 2003 in there that you or your son might like. I went for an off road look while still having some dressy touches in there. I had a spacer lift in that, compared to full suspension swap I have now in my 2006. Many many options out there for modifications for our 4Runners, that's why we love them. It's so easy to make a truck your own and little things here and there end up going a long way.
 
NJ,

That '06 is sweet. A local dealer has a natical blue I'll have to check out.

Desert Fox,

It is "our" project, but since it is for him it will have chrome. Lifting is lifting and this place has the best info on that regardless of what color wheels we put on it. He won't be doing any off-roading, so it will have more of an all-weather tire. But it will also make a nice winter weather vehicle for the family to use.

Gaterose,

Thanks I missed that sticky. I saw the suspension thread, but totally missed that one
 
You seem more interested in safety so for that I will mention that 08's have side ab with rollover curtain airbags. Before 08 the curtains were optional. Coupled with stability control which helps keep vehicle under control in emergency manuvers makes 4runners safer. The biggest safety device in any vehicle is an educated and responsible driver, focus on that the most. Airbags are a supplement only, as good as they have become they will not overcome many cirrcumstances.
 

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