Nitto Ridge Grappler?

To clarify RGs are terrible in deep snow in off-road conditions. I’m sure they are fine in a few inches of snow on the highway.

I recently ditched my ridge grapplers for a set of patagonias. At almost half the price of the ridge grapplers and more sipping, they have been a great tire so far.
 
Understood ...

But I will tell you Cooper STT MAxx are my next set ...
Did you have issues with balancing them ???
And how many miles have you run on them ???
What PSI are you running on your Coops on and off ???


I have about 7000 on my 285/75 St Maxx. I came from RG's in 305/70 and 285/75.

I have had no issues so far with balancing, (One rotation so far with no weight change during re balancing or re alignment nesecary) although it did take a good bit of weight per tire. However, so did the RG's. I run them at 38# front and rear on road and after some experimentation found 18# to be a good inflation in most off road situations including deep snow. (I've got about 900 miles off road right now)

As to the other question about pulling (I read about that prior to purchasing also) They had a bit of pull to the right for the first 3000 miles then that resolved. They do follow grooved highway some. I just drove to SLC from Denver last week and had no hand fatigue or stress from driving.
FWIW I didn't find the RG's good in any snow condition we have here in Colorado. If anything they were better in deep snow than powder, slush or snow over ice. The St Maxx are much better in the snow overall.
I had awful warranty issues with Nitto on my 305/70 RG's and couldn't consider using anything from them again.
 
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To be fair, RGs are not 3PKSF rated so if it works great, if not i cant fault them. I do use my tools as intended and would personally avoid AT tires for winter as they get super hard in colder temps (wrong tire compound). I have dedicated winter tires and would never use AT for snow because every edge in stopping counts. Traction to move isn't my top priority in those scenarios as all vehicles are equally disadvantaged, 2WD/4WD are all equal because they have 4 brakes when you need to stop in an emergency.

I'm so far pleased with RGs, even traveled in mud when i shouldn't have been without too much issue. For road and fire-roads and rain I have had no issues at 5K miles or so.

First real offroading trip will be in September with a course instructor. The GY Ultraterrains before them were quieter and reasonably beefy and I may go back to them in future. They were also 3PKSF rated in case you do get surprised in mountains by snow/ice, but I still recommend using dedicated winters if possible.
 
To be fair, RGs are not 3PKSF rated so if it works great, if not i cant fault them. I do use my tools as intended and would personally avoid AT tires for winter as they get super hard in colder temps (wrong tire compound). I have dedicated winter tires and would never use AT for snow because every edge in stopping counts. Traction to move isn't my top priority in those scenarios as all vehicles are equally disadvantaged, 2WD/4WD are all equal because they have 4 brakes when you need to stop in an emergency.

I'm so far pleased with RGs, even traveled in mud when i shouldn't have been without too much issue. For road and fire-roads and rain I have had no issues at 5K miles or so.

First real offroading trip will be in September with a course instructor. The GY Ultraterrains before them were quieter and reasonably beefy and I may go back to them in future. They were also 3PKSF rated in case you do get surprised in mountains by snow/ice, but I still recommend using dedicated winters if possible.


That’s a fair statement And you’re right it’s not a 3 peak tire or dedicated snow tire. However, compared to other off-road biased tires it’s snow performance is shockingly poor.

My biggest beef with them is off road durability. Never seen so much chipping and chunking in an all terrain before. Never mind the sidewall failures I’ve personally seen from my own experience and a guy who I wheel with.

Oh and they are no better in mud than a standard all terrain. Here’s a shot of me with glazed tires while traversing a remote section of mud in Baja Mexico.

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Indeed. I have a nasty clay mud that I fear would need a real mud tire. Here is a trip I did when going out for some long range shooting. Learned that mud can unbalance tires til you clean them off on the 2 hour trek home.

I hated cleaning the mud off. It was terribly long even with a power washer (multiple days) and was even between spring and shock towers. Then i had to shovel and wheel barrel it to my yard. But anyway the ride was fun...
 

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I bought hitch tire carrier and so I need a spare. Since I was going to go with some Cooper ST Maxx next I got me one as a spare ...

This is what I heard about ... Coopers need a $#it ton of weights to balance them out. My Nittos didn't nearly need half this weights



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This is the worse tire on rainy terrain. I would not recommend this tire!


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That’s a fair statement And you’re right it’s not a 3 peak tire or dedicated snow tire. However, compared to other off-road biased tires it’s snow performance is shockingly poor.

My biggest beef with them is off road durability. Never seen so much chipping and chunking in an all terrain before. Never mind the sidewall failures I’ve personally seen from my own experience and a guy who I wheel with.

Oh and they are no better in mud than a standard all terrain. Here’s a shot of me with glazed tires while traversing a remote section of mud in Baja Mexico.

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i aired down a bunch and they still chunked out SO BAD. granted it was my f250, locked rear end, 8 hours straight of az trails lol. i replaced them with coopers and am much happier overall:noidea:
 
i aired down a bunch and they still chunked out SO BAD. granted it was my f250, locked rear end, 8 hours straight of az trails lol. i replaced them with coopers and am much happier overall:noidea:

Yup never again. Ridge Grapplers are great for show trucks and light off road duty but I wouldn't trust them for real backcountry use.
 
I bought hitch tire carrier and so I need a spare. Since I was going to go with some Cooper ST Maxx next I got me one as a spare ...

This is what I heard about ... Coopers need a $#it ton of weights to balance them out. My Nittos didn't nearly need half this weights

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Mine are pretty normal


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Finally pulled the trigger on a set of 305/70/17s. Hoping to have them on the truck by next weekend. I had a set of MTRs on order but after 4WP forgetting to let me know they were on backorder and after realizing I wheel this thing 3% of the time i drive it, I figured it made sense to go in a different direction.
 
I bought hitch tire carrier and so I need a spare. Since I was going to go with some Cooper ST Maxx next I got me one as a spare ...

This is what I heard about ... Coopers need a $#it ton of weights to balance them out. My Nittos didn't nearly need half this weights



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i loved those coopers other than the constant right hand pull from the tread design. ditched them after a week lol. the cooper at3 xlt's however are glorious.
 
Just got back from rock and boulder crawling. No chips and nicks. Assured down to 16 PSI. I'm happy with tires for my tasks.

Gold Lake trail in Plumas.
 
i loved those coopers other than the constant right hand pull from the tread design. ditched them after a week lol. the cooper at3 xlt's however are glorious.

While my RG tires have been fine so far (some chunks taken out from rocks, not a lot) kinda sucks to see more and more negatives from people. I have a Colorado trip planned in August, and I think the RG's would be perfectly fine for the terrain. I don't think I'd see any snow and it's been fine for some of the mud I go through. Which means I should stick with them but I'd like to plan out my next tire.


After seeing these ST Maxx's I want them again even though I strayed from them due to the right sided tire pull with the 255/80/17. They were great off-road though.

I'm wondering if going to a 285/75/17 with the ST Maxx's would be any better.

But, how are you liking your AT3s?
 
Just got back from Big Bear to Pioneertown via 2N02

Nittos perform well ... Aired down to 15psi and was a smooth ride. 4.88's and 1st gear crawled up and over everything slowly.

But they did chunk up on me last part of the trail. Had some sharp rocks...

The big chunk out of the rear passenger
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While my RG tires have been fine so far (some chunks taken out from rocks, not a lot) kinda sucks to see more and more negatives from people. I have a Colorado trip planned in August, and I think the RG's would be perfectly fine for the terrain. I don't think I'd see any snow and it's been fine for some of the mud I go through. Which means I should stick with them but I'd like to plan out my next tire.


After seeing these ST Maxx's I want them again even though I strayed from them due to the right sided tire pull with the 255/80/17. They were great off-road though.

I'm wondering if going to a 285/75/17 with the ST Maxx's would be any better.

But, how are you liking your AT3s?

theyre on my f250, and they're amazing. doubt they'll perform as well off-road as the RG. but the f250 rarely does off road shenanigans.
 

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