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UPDATE: FIXED No Lockup from trans
Hey all, Been having an issue with my 97 Runner. I'll give the full story.
I'm a Marine Engineer, work on a boat 1/2 a month or so and home for equal time off. Was on the boat over the past months and came across this Limited, Black on tan, fully loaded 97 4Runner with 284k Klms in the next Province over. Emailed the guy and it sounded like a good truck.
He bought it off a Toyota lot in British Columbia in 2000 (No salt out there) and lived there for a number of years, then drove it home to PEI where it was until the winter past. Sent me a bunch of pictures and decided to go ahead with the sale. Only downside was it needed a trans.Said he lost in within days, Reverse was fine but no forward gears. So it sat in his garage for 8 months. The price was right and it was remarkably clean, and always wanted a Limited.
Sent him the money sight unseen and had a friend pick it up with a flat-deck.
Got off the boat, with arrangements already made for an apparetly rebuilt trans for $240. Bought the trans and made my way to my friends place in PEI where he had a hoist with the truck stored. Sure enough, got there and first seeing the truck I was amazed at the shape underneath. Started it up, had a misfire from a cracked coil pack, so called a salvage yard that had a bunch of tacomas and picked it up in morning. Like stated, no forward gears, pop it to drive and it would barley inch forward, reverse was fine tho (Clutches I assumed)
Dropped the trans, had a ton of filth in the pan, she was cooked. Went to put the "new to me" trans and converter in, and the torque converter wouldn't seat. Tried everything, trans on its end, twisting every which way, no go. However the old converter slipped right in. I know its not recommended but it was what I had at the time. Put the old one in and bolted everything up.
Dropped the truck off the hoist with everything hooked up and proceeded to take my new truck for a drive. Pulled out on the road, huge smile, couldn't be happier. Running through the gears, gaining speed it feels great Shifts out of 1st, 2nd, into 3rd and it stopped. I'm waiting for O/D and the smile is slowly dropping as the revs increase. Sh*i I only have 3 gears. Hitting the O/D button does nothing. The light comes on the dash but no mechanical change. Truck is at operating temp, no CEL. Keep driving it and nothing. It's doing 100kph at 3000k RPM.
Let it cool off after parking, pulled the other pan and swapped all 3 solenoids from the original trans and the temp probe. Fill it back up, still nothing.
When you're driving,and coming to a hill for example, the revs increase without speed increase, like slipping. I'll put a video in the comments once it uploads. And when on a hill in Drive, the truck rolls back, won't hold.
Now (Thanks for bearing with me) :focus: I'm thinking torque converter. Has no lockup no matter what. I've done the manual shift test by unplugging the trans and shifting 1,2 and D. When doing this, the truck does do like it should, 1st is 1st, 2nd is 3rd, and D is O/D. This is the only way I can achieve O/D.
As I write this, I have a new in box torque converter by my feet, but want the opinion of members before I arrange to pull the trans for a 2nd time.
Thank you
Sterling
Hey all, Been having an issue with my 97 Runner. I'll give the full story.
I'm a Marine Engineer, work on a boat 1/2 a month or so and home for equal time off. Was on the boat over the past months and came across this Limited, Black on tan, fully loaded 97 4Runner with 284k Klms in the next Province over. Emailed the guy and it sounded like a good truck.
He bought it off a Toyota lot in British Columbia in 2000 (No salt out there) and lived there for a number of years, then drove it home to PEI where it was until the winter past. Sent me a bunch of pictures and decided to go ahead with the sale. Only downside was it needed a trans.Said he lost in within days, Reverse was fine but no forward gears. So it sat in his garage for 8 months. The price was right and it was remarkably clean, and always wanted a Limited.
Sent him the money sight unseen and had a friend pick it up with a flat-deck.
Got off the boat, with arrangements already made for an apparetly rebuilt trans for $240. Bought the trans and made my way to my friends place in PEI where he had a hoist with the truck stored. Sure enough, got there and first seeing the truck I was amazed at the shape underneath. Started it up, had a misfire from a cracked coil pack, so called a salvage yard that had a bunch of tacomas and picked it up in morning. Like stated, no forward gears, pop it to drive and it would barley inch forward, reverse was fine tho (Clutches I assumed)
Dropped the trans, had a ton of filth in the pan, she was cooked. Went to put the "new to me" trans and converter in, and the torque converter wouldn't seat. Tried everything, trans on its end, twisting every which way, no go. However the old converter slipped right in. I know its not recommended but it was what I had at the time. Put the old one in and bolted everything up.
Dropped the truck off the hoist with everything hooked up and proceeded to take my new truck for a drive. Pulled out on the road, huge smile, couldn't be happier. Running through the gears, gaining speed it feels great Shifts out of 1st, 2nd, into 3rd and it stopped. I'm waiting for O/D and the smile is slowly dropping as the revs increase. Sh*i I only have 3 gears. Hitting the O/D button does nothing. The light comes on the dash but no mechanical change. Truck is at operating temp, no CEL. Keep driving it and nothing. It's doing 100kph at 3000k RPM.
Let it cool off after parking, pulled the other pan and swapped all 3 solenoids from the original trans and the temp probe. Fill it back up, still nothing.
When you're driving,and coming to a hill for example, the revs increase without speed increase, like slipping. I'll put a video in the comments once it uploads. And when on a hill in Drive, the truck rolls back, won't hold.
Now (Thanks for bearing with me) :focus: I'm thinking torque converter. Has no lockup no matter what. I've done the manual shift test by unplugging the trans and shifting 1,2 and D. When doing this, the truck does do like it should, 1st is 1st, 2nd is 3rd, and D is O/D. This is the only way I can achieve O/D.
As I write this, I have a new in box torque converter by my feet, but want the opinion of members before I arrange to pull the trans for a 2nd time.
Thank you
Sterling
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