oil filter never changed!

[Koz]

Your engine will be fine! Not to worry.

After 5K miles have your oil analyzed and find out for sure if the oil is still providing safe protection. You will also find out if you can extend the change interval safely. Why guess and why waste time and money? Invest $20

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/free_test_kit.html

Koz

 

[Kmvreter]

kmvreter,

Oh I must rant here and feel very sorry for your car and your ordeal...

03RoadRunner,
You must have misread the thread. It is digphisher who is having the issues with Firestone.

I was getting the original oil changes done at the stealer (competitively priced compared to the lube joints, so you should avoid them.) Installed a Fram drain valve and started doing it myself, with the OEM Toy filter, now that I've switched to Mobil 1 (which you can find on sale and stock up on.) Don't forget to lube the zerks.

 

[OUTRNNR]

I've read the Jiffy lube threads, but these were the guys that actually found that my filter had not been changed! I watched these guys do the work. I thought they did a fine job. I would love to do it myself, but how do I get under the truck, and what do i do with the used oil?

Get yourself a pair of ramps to drive the Runner up onto to give yourself more clearance to get to the oil pan and filter. Then buy yourself a oil change drain pan.

-Place drain pan under drain plug and pull plug draining all oil from vehicle (don't forget to remove the oil fill cap)

-Undo 4 bolts from and remove front skid plate (need socket extensions to get to 2 of the 4 bolts)

-Move oil drain pan to under oil filter (located on driver's side just off the inside corner of the tire about level with the bumper).

-Remove oil filter and set in oil drain pan to drian additional oil from filter (You may have to get a oil filter wrench to get the filter off)

-Get new filter out of box and use your finger to lube rubber gasket with fresh motor oil and hand tighten (As tight as you can get it with your hands. Do NOT use filter wrench as this could dent the oil filter, which is bad)

-Replace drain plug

-Pour 6.5 quarts of fresh oil into oil fill spout on top of the engine

-check filter location and drain plug location for leaks

-Replace front skidplate (I hate this part)

And you're done!! The first time might take you half an hour, but after that it will only take you 15-20 mintues (It would be shorter if we didn't have to remove that stupid skidplate). Anyone know of any oil filter relocation kits for the V8??

Total cost of reuseable Tools (Ramps, Drain Pan, Filter wrench) ~ $60

Total cost of supplies (Oil & Oil filter) ~ $20-$50 (depending on oil and filter used)

Just do it yourself!!

Good Luck!

Oh, and Checker, or a reputable parts store will usually dispose of your used oil for free...

 

[MicaBlue03]

Consider oil extractor (vacuum pump) esp for V6s

As Fourty-four noted, the vacuum oil extractors are a great way to go. I use a 6 liter Pela version, but there is a bigger one from Pela (the one pictured in Fourty-four's post, I think. Here's a link to the 6 liter one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000BYO97/102-7427462-1220144?v=glance&n=3375251

It removes all the oil the drain plug will (at least on my V6), except for an ounce or so. It is slower than the drain plug, but the wait gives me time to remove/replace the oil filter.

For the V6s you can now do the oil change entirely from the top of the vehicle. No ramps or crawling under. I like it so far.

 

[Fourty-four]

Recycle ordinance differs between counties. The manager at Pep Boys tod me that a parts store that sells automotive oil must collect it as well. So far, every place that I've purchased oil from had a oil recycling program.

No arguments.... the same thing applies here. Any place that sells oil must also accept used motor oil at no charge. My point was that some shops use the used motor oil as heating fuel during the winter.

 

[Jeff Kleb]

Changing Oil


1. To dispose of the used motor oil, I either go to Advance Auto or the local county landfill. Both have recycling programs and tanks to collect the oil.

2. To get to the underside of the 4Runner is not too difficult. I can usually crawl under there without resorting to using a creeper -- but it is easy to park at the top of my sloped driveway, so that the front end "hangs over" and gives me some extra space.

Doing the oil change yourself is tough the first time, but you'll get the hang of it very quickly. Not only will you save money and make your vehicle last much longer, but you will also know that the job is done correctly.
:awais:


P.S. Please remember to let the old oil have sufficient time to drain from the pan - so that you can be sure that as much of it as possible comes out. This is best done with the engine hot, too. Most of those "Jiffy" places don't let all of it drain out (and any sludge that might be in there) and will put the bolt back on as soon as the flow slows down. They gotta get you outta there in ten minutes, ya know.
:bash:

 

[4x4v8]

I can get to mine (the filter) without jacking up the truck. Put

I read in your Sig that you have a V8. How do you get to filter without taking off the skid plate?

 

[Will816]

That's really messed up that it was not changed, make some noise.

I think you're fine, 5000 miles is really no biggie. The 3000 mile thing is what you should generally try to do, but if, over the life of the car, a few go over, its not something to worry about.

 

[NCSCOTT]

I think you're fine, 5000 miles is really no biggie. The 3000 mile thing is what you should generally try to do, but if, over the life of the car, a few go over, its not something to worry about.

You are more than fine @ 5000 miles with dyno or synthetic it does not matter. 3000 miles is a thing of the past for ALL New car makers. Hell 5000 is on the low end now.

Talk about bring a thread back from the dead!!

 

[snowjay]

Holy thread bump Batman!


While it's bumped...

I've always wondered about those pumps, but I still do it the old fashioned way, crawling under the truck.

I don't actually need to raise the 4R any to get under it but it does make it a little easier. It's rough in the cold weather though, so sometimes my intervals are extended slightly.

I did find a Mobil1 oil change place not to far from here so I might give that a shot next time it needs to be changed and it's freezing out.

 

[Annoyed]

Have to agree about the quickie lube places; I wouldn't let those monkeys put gas in my truck, let alone do any service on it. Just 2 months ago, guy in the cubicle next to me at work took his car into one of those places... and they filled the radiator with.... Water! This was December, in western NY state.

Can you guess what happened?

 

[boston_kevin]

Holy thread bump Batman!


While it's bumped...

I've always wondered about those pumps, but I still do it the old fashioned way, crawling under the truck.

My concern about those pumps is that you are flushing whatever is in the pan back through the engine to pump it out. If you drain the oil underneath, gravity prevents anything that settled on the bottom of the pan from re-entering the engine.

 

[NCSCOTT]

My concern about those pumps is that you are flushing whatever is in the pan back through the engine to pump it out. If you drain the oil underneath, gravity prevents anything that settled on the bottom of the pan from re-entering the engine.

How do you come up with that??? My understanding is the suction tube goes down the dipstick tube and suctions the oil out from there?????

 

[4x4v8]

How do you come up with that??? My understanding is the suction tube goes down the dipstick tube and suctions the oil out from there?????

From what I gather, it does go in the dipstick BUT it doesnt go all the way into the bottom of the pan...

 

[MicaBlue03]

Extractors do get all the oil from the V6s

I've done a regular drain through the oil plug (parked on a level surface) and have used an oil extractor (see my earlier post) several times each.

On the V6 engines at least, the extractor reaches through the dipstick hole clear to the bottom of the oil pan and removes the same amount of oil as a traditional bottom drain does. It's just slower and more convenient.

The convenience of the extractor is greater for V6s since the oil filter is right there at the top front of the engine and there is then no need to get under the vehicle.