OME vs Coilovers (Price / Value)

They have one to test in WA. They are waiting to install it on an employee's T4R. I asked a few different ways about using the BP-51 from the FJ. They were adamant that it was a bad idea. It could be just legally covering their asses until it is tested. Who knows. It is just more money that I can spend to try something.
The kits include application-specific mounting hardware for the remote resis, that's my guess why they don't want cross-installation. They also offer other recommendations which aren't 100% accurate (Like UCA's not needed for their 3" lift. While technically true; it handle much better with aftermarket UCAs) Take it with a grain of salt ;)

I've offered my rig a couple times for test fitment since I'm fairly local, they haven't jumped on it :moping:
 
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but rebuildable coilovers (like Icon, BP-51, Kings..etc) means that they will need to be rebuilt. Maybe every 20K miles or something? Which means they will have to be taken off the truck and rebuilt by someone. Depending on where one lives this could mean shipping them and having your truck out of commission for a while. Since my truck is also my daily driver this seems like a poor choice for me.

As someone who is slowly building and overland capable vehicle I am starting to think that the reliability of the traditional OME Nitrocharges makes sense. From what I have heard you can sort of put them on and forget about them. And if something does fail its fairly cheap to swap a component. This is my first real offroad capable vehicle so I am just learning this stuff, but at this point I am leaning towards the reliability of traditional OMEs over the more frequent maintenance the comes with the performance of rebuildable and adjustable coilovers.
 
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but rebuildable coilovers (like Icon, BP-51, Kings..etc) means that they will need to be rebuilt. Maybe every 20K miles or something? Which means they will have to be taken off the truck and rebuilt by someone. Depending on where one lives this could mean shipping them and having your truck out of commission for a while. Since my truck is also my daily driver this seems like a poor choice for me.

As someone who is slowly building and overland capable vehicle I am starting to think that the reliability of the traditional OME Nitrocharges makes sense. From what I have heard you can sort of put them on and forget about them. And if something does fail its fairly cheap to swap a component. This is my first real offroad capable vehicle so I am just learning this stuff, but at this point I am leaning towards the reliability of traditional OMEs over the more frequent maintenance the comes with the performance of rebuildable and adjustable coilovers.

This is why I've always used basic OME kits... Sure the 2.5" coil overs are sweet, but how often do you want to have to deal with rebuilding them?

Anyone have experience with rebuilding Kings, Icon, etc? How often do you have to rebuild them? What does it cost?
 
I have rebuilt shocks for mountain bikes and what not. They are put together the same way just a lot bigger and larger forces to deal with. You can buy rebuild kits (Link1, Link2). Having only dealt with smaller ones, only the best internet research. So you know I am completely full of shit :) They look do-able if you have good attention to detail and a steady hand.

If you look at the rebuild schedule which is designed for peak performance, it is not something that will happen too often. Quick google-fu says you would need to work on them ~50k miles for fox.
 
I offered mine too. I am in OR but have family near by. I could leave mine with them for a month or two. As long as I got it back before summer.

I asked specifically excluded mounting and all hardware, will the shock work? They said not to try it. They said it might need dampening and other stuff adjusted. But you might be right. If you look at the standard OME stuff, they all share the same setup.

ARB via Facebook said:
Thank you for the offer. We honestly don't have any ETA because we are not sure home many changes will need to be made. But we would advise against using suspension components not designed and valved for the specific vehicle. We would be afraid if the valving and spring rate was off enough, you would not get the famous OME ride quality.
 
Neither, they are in mm. But they are close to 2.5".

From ARB website...
"51mm bore, 6061 grade aluminium shock absorber body with type III, hard anodised finish for increased heat dissipation and corrosion resistance."

51mm = 2.00787 inches




Mason
 
If you don't off road much. Do toytec boss or icons need to be rebuilt more often than say stock? Seems like you get like 100k miles out of stock xreas usually.


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From ARB website...
"51mm bore, 6061 grade aluminium shock absorber body with type III, hard anodised finish for increased heat dissipation and corrosion resistance."

51mm = 2.00787 inches




Mason

Just did some research by watching their video. While the outside of the shock body is 2.5", the piston diameter looks to be closer to 2" with the internal bypasses taking up the extra space in the thicker than normal shock wall.
 

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Just did some research by watching their video. While the outside of the shock body is 2.5", the piston diameter looks to be closer to 2" with the internal bypasses taking up the extra space in the thicker than normal shock wall.

Hmm interesting. It looks like a very cool system. Wish it was already in production for 4th gens.
 

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