Oregonians... thinking of moving

T4Rscott

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I am thinking of moving out to Oregon in the next couple of years. I'm currently a resident of Maine, and I have the opportunity to relocate. I am looking for someone to give me an insight as to how the state is doing in terms of education, economics and taxes. Also what are the firearm laws like.

Planning on a vacation this summer to come out and see the area.

thanks in advance!

Scott
 
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Do it! The wife and I are going to be moving out as well in a couple years. I know a little about it, but not enough to help you. I have family in New Port (tourist trap), Portland (love that place), and just across the river in Washington.
 
Don't do it, Oregon sucks almost as bad as Utah. It's horrible. You'll hate it.

For us it's just a temporary destination. Finding jobs in Portland and living there for a couple years is just the start. From there we'll either leave to hike the PCT, or leave to travel the Pan-American Highway to Chile.
 
I am thinking of moving out to Oregon in the next couple of years. I'm currently a resident of Maine, and I have the opportunity to relocate. I am looking for someone to give me an insight as to how the state is doing in terms of education, economics and taxes. Also what are the firearm laws like.

Planning on a vacation this summer to come out and see the area.

thanks in advance!

Scott

I have lived in Portland for all 24 years of my life, and I've also been spoiled to travel all over the world. So here's my perspective on what you've asked:

-The public education system in Oregon is suffering from a financial disaster. Good, tenured teachers are being replaced with young, inexperienced or inadequate teachers because they cost less. Facilities are in poor condition and resources are constantly being cut. So if you have children in grade school and they want to really get involved in activities like band, art, engineering or computer classes, they simply no longer exist. Yet just across the river in Washington, budgets are balanced, schools are constantly being built, and students are generally happier. That being said however, Oregon has some amazing Universities (Oregon, OSU, Reed College, Lewis and Clark, Willamette) and I've been fortunate enough to attend classes at several of these schools. So if you are only concerned about college level education, then Oregon has a lot to offer.

-Economically, Oregon is doing ok. Unemployment is relatively low, and jobs are plentiful if you're willing to work hard (shocking to many, I know.) The biggest employers out here are definitely Intel and Nike, so there are plenty of opportunities for corporate people. Local government spends money like congress, and state tax is somewhat high. However, Oregon has no sales tax!

-2A rights: The state of Oregon is pro 2A. Conceal carry permits are easy to obtain, no magazine restrictions or California style gun laws. Private sale or transfer of firearms require no background checks. Plenty of indoor and outdoor ranges to shoot. Thanks to the Oregon Firearms Federation, we have done of good job of keeping Oregon a great place for gun people. However, there are a lot of state representatives that want to change the gun laws around here. The past two legislative sessions have had both gun bans/additional gun registration laws on the table, but thankfully they've either failed to pass out of a house or died in a committee. Just bear in mind that while the state is pro 2A, the city of Portland is trying to give the gun culture a bad rep.

-Other things about Portland: It rains a lot, but the summers are incredible. People are very liberal and pro government, so you might feel a little out of place if you prefer minimal government. Obama bumper stickers on Prius bumpers everywhere. Anyways...Clean air, lots of trees and greenery, plenty of parks and hiking trails, close to the coast and mountains, people are definitely laid back compared to most other states, lots of great food, home to some of the best microbrews and strip clubs if you enjoy either, and the sports scene is actually decent around here. Oregon Ducks Football is big, and people really love the Blazers and our new soccer team called the Timbers.

Overall, I love Oregon and I like Portland. When it comes time to buying a house though, I will probably live and work just across the border in Washington because property is cheap and they have no state income tax. So as long as you don't mind 9 1/2 months of rain every year, chances are you will love living in the PNW.




No way in hell I'd move to Oregon. I see what happens on Grimm. Nope. :behindsofa:

Yea, they be choppin' heads off out here.
 
When it comes time to buying a house though, I will probably live and work just across the border in Washington because property is cheap and they have no state income tax.

Just a heads up - state income tax is determined based on where the money is earned. You wouldn't owe taxes in Washington, but you'd still have to file a non-resident return in Oregon. This is getting scrutinized more lately because state and local governments are getting hungry for revenue.
 
It's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there if for no other reason than you can't pump your own gas.

You get the pump jockey spilling gas on your motorcycle gas tank, or if it's busy, waiting for a long time before they eventually get to you.

Let me pump my own damn gas and get it done in a timely manner. I have things to do.
 
Just a heads up - state income tax is determined based on where the money is earned. You wouldn't owe taxes in Washington, but you'd still have to file a non-resident return in Oregon. This is getting scrutinized more lately because state and local governments are getting hungry for revenue.

^^This is correct, and I didn't explain very well. But you can't live in Washington and work in Oregon and avoid paying Oregon income tax :( In other words, you pay income tax based on the state you work in. A lot of people live in Vancouver for this reason, so the I-5 and I-205 bridges that connect Oregon and Washington are packed on weekends when all the WA residents come down to load up at Costco for tax free shopping. As much as I hate traffic, these people are pocketing on average about 9% of their income which would otherwise be handed over in taxes. Hi five, Vancouver people! [MENTION=60147]the kid[/MENTION]

It's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there if for no other reason than you can't pump your own gas.

You get the pump jockey spilling gas on your motorcycle gas tank, or if it's busy, waiting for a long time before they eventually get to you.

Let me pump my own damn gas and get it done in a timely manner. I have things to do.

Which is why most of us Oregonians pump our own gas anyways. Usually just to help the poor guy busting his keister at the gas pumps.
 
Which is why most of us Oregonians pump our own gas anyways. Usually just to help the poor guy busting his keister at the gas pumps.

Every time I've even looked like I might grab the nozzle and pump my own gas, or asked if I could, I've been threatened with the ramifications of violating that stupid State law, and told that I could be arrested.
 
Hahaha I know that look, not to judge but it's the look that only a toothless recovering addict can give. It's enough to make you jump in the rig and take off with the nozzle still in the filler tube.
 
^^This is correct, and I didn't explain very well. But you can't live in Washington and work in Oregon and avoid paying Oregon income tax :( In other words, you pay income tax based on the state you work in. A lot of people live in Vancouver for this reason, so the I-5 and I-205 bridges that connect Oregon and Washington are packed on weekends when all the WA residents come down to load up at Costco for tax free shopping. As much as I hate traffic, these people are pocketing on average about 9% of their income which would otherwise be handed over in taxes. Hi five, Vancouver people! [MENTION=60147]the kid[/MENTION]

yeah so i have lived in vancouver for the last 4+ years and never have gotten my state income taxes back... oregon always finds some way of putting their hand in the cookie jar. so this year i got smart and sense im a federal and state employee -oregon national guard, i just decided to say screw you and change my w4, so now oregon doesn't even get the chance to tax me. but i am one of the few people who can do that... -you have to be a federal govt employee ie military. -oh and i have managed to retain my ODL this whole time buy using my second property to call "home" -my parents live there so i still get any important notices or mail ect i might need. oregon is nice, but their taxes suck, washington on the other hand i like better other than a few gun laws regarding class II weapons but that doenst affect most people
 
One of the main reasons my family and I chose Wa was because of the school system. Coming from a highly rated northern Va school system, we had to find something that suited our kids. The cost of living is also slightly lower across the river in Vancouver. When we looked at housing, we noticed a slight advantage towards Wa. My wife also works in the GP (Gifford Pinchot National Forest) so it benefits us to live in Wa.

Without getting into a bunch of details, I would recommend living across the river and driving into Portland to enjoy its scenery, food, and people.

Disclaimer: We came from the Washington DC area and the traffic in Portland is way worse than that! Really surprised us when we moved.
 
I am thinking of moving out to Oregon in the next couple of years. I'm currently a resident of Maine, and I have the opportunity to relocate. I am looking for someone to give me an insight as to how the state is doing in terms of education, economics and taxes. Also what are the firearm laws like.

Planning on a vacation this summer to come out and see the area.

thanks in advance!

Scott


Lived in central Oregon for 19 years, then went to school in Corvallis. Family in Lebenon, Oregon City, and Portland.

Here is something worth knowing.

It's beautiful, the cascades are amazing, Portland is very Posh and "trendy" (in a 1 year lag behind the rest of the world kind of way)

BUT.

It's liberal drug laws and the flocking of hippies, makes it a bad place to raise a family IMO. I was a police office in Oregon after getting out of the Army, and I can tell you first hand, the drug problem (meth) is sooooo bad many agencies are focusing resources on other manageable crimes (read giving up). It's bad..bad..bad ...bad. Please keep in mind I have lived in only 5 states and only about 15 cities, and the Oregon cities (Madras, Corvallis, sisters) have been the worst, however OSU campus made Corvallis tolerable.

Not sure where you are planning to live.. If I had to suggest a City, I would say Bend. The state is dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the city and it is a pretty nice place to live.

Housing (in family safe, clean neighborhoods) is expensive, most cities with a 4A school or higher are pretty well funded, however some smaller schools (like Culver) have an above average rating dispute being 2A.


Weed is legal,( if you care). Long guns are easy to buy, but the hippies there don't much care for guns, so you will have to be a closet gun owner if that's your thing. The laws regarding firearms is pretty liberal, clean record, no wait, private sale exc. But, the Dems want the guns squeezed and it is a Dem state...so be ready for your gun rights to be ushered out and the pot is carried in. That said, currently there is no wait to buy, no limit, and no bans. But watch this one closely, it's being reworked.

Oregon is full of farm land and Forrest, so it's no shocker that the job market is tilted toward the hands on outdoors get your hands dirty kind of work. I still have close family all over Oregon and everyone one of them hit me up for a Job at some point over the last couple years. There are some big companies there like Bushwacker, Letherman, Gerber knives, and I think Eddie Bauer.... Not sure what your trade is, but in Oregon, it will have to count for something, or you need to know how to set a choker, or run a yarder.

By Taxes I assume you are referring to sales/income, as other tax rates are set by local governing bodies. Well there is no sales tax, but the income tax is can be a bear. 9.9 percent. If you do the math on that, it will hurt.
Example:

If your income is $100k, you pay $9900 annual tax.
People in sales tax states pay tax in disposable income spending as well as most services. So let's call this 45% of your income gets spent on goods and services that are taxable, and the rest gets spent on rent, and utilities. If I recall the national average of disposable income is closer to 15%, but it does not take into account taxable services, like cell phone and cable.
Back to the math.
$45000 per year that you would pay sales tax on comes out to (@ 7.25%) $3263 a year in sales tax.

I know I just made most of the numbers up, but you get my point, paying income tax sucks... You have to pay your state a percentage of every dollar you earn instead of every dollar you spend. There are other factors, but this was just my biased example of why I hate income tax. There is a larger picture to this topic for me, but it does not do you any good so I will drop it.

Well, I have rambled on long enough, and if you are still reading, I'm sorry I stole so much of your time.

Bottomed line, Oregon is a beautiful place to visit... But then again, I know nothing about Maine, perhaps Oregon is better.
 
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It's liberal drug laws and the flocking of hippies, makes it a bad place to raise a family IMO. I was a police office in Oregon after getting out of the Army, and I can tell you first hand, the drug problem (meth) is sooooo bad many agencies are focusing resources on other manageable crimes (read giving up). It's bad..bad..bad ...bad.

+1. I lived outside Seattle for 5 years, but my work had me covering Oregon and Idaho. It really is a beautiful place, but the state was really hurting as far as resources to combat crime. When I was there, they were actually laying off state troopers.

Of course, my biggest pet peeve about Oregon was that you weren't allowed to pump your own gas. :).
 
+1.
Of course, my biggest pet peeve about Oregon was that you weren't allowed to pump your own gas. :).

I forgot about that part, it was normal when I grew up, but now when I visit family, it drives me nuts.

I just flew my sister and her entire family here (Ohio) today, they will be here in a few hours. They are always talking about leaving Oregon
 
Lived in central Oregon for 19 years, then went to school in Corvallis. Family in Lebenon, Oregon City, and Portland.

Here is something worth knowing.

It's beautiful, the cascades are amazing, Portland is very Posh and "trendy" (in a 1 year lag behind the rest of the world kind of way)

BUT.

It's liberal drug laws and the flocking of hippies, makes it a bad place to raise a family IMO. I was a police office in Oregon after getting out of the Army, and I can tell you first hand, the drug problem (meth) is sooooo bad many agencies are focusing resources on other manageable crimes (read giving up). It's bad..bad..bad ...bad. Please keep in mind I have lived in only 5 states and only about 15 cities, and the Oregon cities (Madras, Corvallis, sisters) have been the worst, however OSU campus made Corvallis tolerable.

Not sure where you are planning to live.. If I had to suggest a City, I would say Bend. The state is dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the city and it is a pretty nice place to live.

Housing (in family safe, clean neighborhoods) is expensive, most cities with a 4A school or higher are pretty well funded, however some smaller schools (like Culver) have an above average rating dispute being 2A.


Weed is legal,( if you care). Long guns are easy to buy, but the hippies there don't much care for guns, so you will have to be a closet gun owner if that's your thing. The laws regarding firearms is pretty liberal, clean record, no wait, private sale exc. But, the Dems want the guns squeezed and it is a Dem state...so be ready for your gun rights to be ushered out and the pot is carried in. That said, currently there is no wait to buy, no limit, and no bans. But watch this one closely, it's being reworked.

Oregon is full of farm land and Forrest, so it's no shocker that the job market is tilted toward the hands on outdoors get your hands dirty kind of work. I still have close family all over Oregon and everyone one of them hit me up for a Job at some point over the last couple years. There are some big companies there like Bushwacker, Letherman, Gerber knives, and I think Eddie Bauer.... Not sure what your trade is, but in Oregon, it will have to count for something, or you need to know how to set a choker, or run a yarder.

By Taxes I assume you are referring to sales/income, as other tax rates are set by local governing bodies. Well there is no sales tax, but the income tax is can be a bear. 9.9 percent. If you do the math on that, it will hurt.
Example:

If your income is $100k, you pay $9900 annual tax.
People in sales tax states pay tax in disposable income spending as well as most services. So let's call this 45% of your income gets spent on goods and services that are taxable, and the rest gets spent on rent, and utilities. If I recall the national average of disposable income is closer to 15%, but it does not take into account taxable services, like cell phone and cable.
Back to the math.
$45000 per year that you would pay sales tax on comes out to (@ 7.25%) $3263 a year in sales tax.

I know I just made most of the numbers up, but you get my point, paying income tax sucks... You have to pay your state a percentage of every dollar you earn instead of every dollar you spend. There are other factors, but this was just my biased example of why I hate income tax. There is a larger picture to this topic for me, but it does not do you any good so I will drop it.

Well, I have rambled on long enough, and if you are still reading, I'm sorry I stole so much of your time.

Bottomed line, Oregon is a beautiful place to visit... But then again, I know nothing about Maine, perhaps Oregon is better.

Oregon isn't as bleak or down as you put it out to be... While I would not say we are neck and neck with the silicon valley, we do have a huge tech industry. We are referred to as the silicon forest and we have some major players here -Intel, Google, and a ton of other smaller companies. We also have Nike and Adidas, as well as a major shipping port. Our unemployment rate is steadily dropping and small businesses are being given good incentives to come here or start up here. I'd say as long as you stay in a larger city or get way out in the county you'll be fine, but yeah we do have a big problem with meth, but we don't have many problems other big city's have, and method isn't just an Oregon problem.

As far as guns go yeah we are pretty lenient on them and yeah the dems want to change that but it ain't gonna happen any time soon. I have open carried before and still do from Tim to time in populated areas and only been hassled once and the person who was hassling me lost all his customers when they told me to leave -ever one else who was within ear shot just left the store right behind me... So there is still a majority of pro 2nd amendment people here. I will say that southern Oregon is more of a backwoods barrel-burrnin kinda place and again unless you live way out in the sticks not for me -but then you run the risk of running in to illegal clandestine drug operations by cartel workers. But the dea is getting hot on those guys. My advice is north of Salem (gonna be best for jobs as well as schools and housing and communities) or eastern Oregon like Bend/Redmond/Sisters area. But I'd really look at jumping across the river to Vancouver wa. Its basically portland but without the income tax, and you can shop in Oregon(Portland) and not pay sales tax win win if you ask me.
 

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