P rated 285/70/17 or LT 265/70/17 C loaded

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Howdy everyone! Can you guys tell me which one of them is better for mostly highway and occasional trail and gravel road drivings?
I am leaning towards Falken Wildpeak AT3 P285/70/17 since it’s lighter than Nitto ridge grappler LT265/70/17. What do you think ?
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Howdy everyone! Can you guys tell me which one of them is better for mostly highway and occasional trail and gravel road drivings?
I am leaning towards Falken Wildpeak AT3 P285/70/17 since it’s lighter than Nitto ridge grappler LT265/70/17. What do you think ?
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do you have a suspension that can account for the 285s? my stock limited rubbed slightly with the 265 grapplers
 
do you have a suspension that can account for the 285s? my stock limited rubbed slightly with the 265 grapplers


Appreciate for the input! I will get Bilstein 6112 or OME if I decide to go with the 285.


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Fitting 285/70R17

What kind of lift do you have? You'll need a lift to run the 285/70R17. Otherwise you'll get so much rubbing in the wheel wells you won't want to drive it.

What does the "C" after the tire size and before the speed rating stand for?

I got the Falken Wildpeak AT3W LT285/70R17. You know where to find the specs but they are all listed in a handy table on the Falken website. I wanted the tougher sidewalls and treads for off roading. They are rated for a higher load.
 
What kind of lift do you have? You'll need a lift to run the 285/70R17. Otherwise you'll get so much rubbing in the wheel wells you won't want to drive it.



What does the "C" after the tire size and before the speed rating stand for?



I got the Falken Wildpeak AT3W LT285/70R17. You know where to find the specs but they are all listed in a handy table on the Falken website. I wanted the tougher sidewalls and treads for off roading. They are rated for a higher load.



It’s stock now but will get OME or Bilsteins 6112. I believe the C means loading rate but I could be wrong.


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What kind of lift do you have? You'll need a lift to run the 285/70R17. Otherwise you'll get so much rubbing in the wheel wells you won't want to drive it.

What does the "C" after the tire size and before the speed rating stand for?

I got the Falken Wildpeak AT3W LT285/70R17. You know where to find the specs but they are all listed in a handy table on the Falken website. I wanted the tougher sidewalls and treads for off roading. They are rated for a higher load.

It’s stock now but will get OME or Bilsteins 6112. I believe the C means loading rate but I could be wrong.


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C = 6-ply. D = 8-ply. E = 10-ply
 
LT285/70R17 tire install

It’s stock now but will get OME or Bilsteins 6112. I believe the C means loading rate but I could be wrong.

If you're going to increase the tire size do the lift first. Otherwise you'll have problems driving it until the lift is done. And for the 285/70R17, look at Falken's website for the recommended rim size (17x8.5", 0" offset). I went with the ICON Rebound rims. SCS makes a good rim too.

I installed the ICON Stage 7 tubular suspension lift. It took me fully 8 days straight to finish it, working all day long. I did a couple of extra things during the install, like making wheel well liners for the rear, but mostly it was the lift install. The 5 back axle trailing arms and track bar took a lot of time. Even without that it might have taken 5 to 6 days to complete. I think any brand of shocks and upper control arm would have been just as difficult.

I installed the new tires first and then started the lift a couple of days later. I got to drive it with the new tires on, without the lift, and had a lot of trouble turning. I could just as easily have installed the tires afterwards.

Make sure you get a good wheel balance. The shop I bought the tires at did not have adequate equipment to balance the tires. The tech was good, but he could not get them to balance. I had to go down the street to find a shop that had the Hunter Road Force alignment tool. They mount the tire, spin it fast and find the out-of-round or heavy points on the rims and tires. They mark the spots on both and then deflate the tire. Then they rotate the deflated tire around the rim to optimize the balance points between the tire and rim. Then they inflate it and spin it again to finalize the balance by adding the required balance weights. It can only be done this way with the Hunter Road Force machine.

There may be another brand of wheel balancer that does this but this one is easy to see how it works. Look at Hunter's website for a more detailed explanation and to see what the machine looks like so you can find a shop that has them.

After the lift and tires are done get the alignment tuned by a good shop. I went to a local guy who only does alignment and tires.
 
It depends on the type of offroading you do and plan to do in the future. (Yes you can change them out, but this saves a bit of money) I popped P-rated Falken at3w 265s on a forest road. Catch is I was going around 30-40mph, hit a dip and might have pinched punctured the sidewall. After that, I knew I needed E-rated for my trail driving style. I wanted nitto trail grapplers but I couldnt pass up the value of the falken mt01s 285s.

Just some food for thought. Your location says Edmonton Falkens are snow rated. I'm not sure ridge grapplers are.
 
It depends on the type of offroading you do and plan to do in the future. (Yes you can change them out, but this saves a bit of money) I popped P-rated Falken at3w 265s on a forest road. Catch is I was going around 30-40mph, hit a dip and might have pinched punctured the sidewall. After that, I knew I needed E-rated for my trail driving style. I wanted nitto trail grapplers but I couldnt pass up the value of the falken mt01s 285s.

Just some food for thought. Your location says Edmonton Falkens are snow rated. I'm not sure ridge grapplers are.
i believe the ridge grapplers are

also a nitto rep told me that both the C and E rated ridge grapplers are 6 ply. I tend to believe him given that their weights are almost the same
 
Interesting my local shop recommends lighter tires, as they have scene lots of wear on 4Runner and Tacoma suspensions from running heavy off-road tires on the street
There recommendations are a extra set of wheels for off-road
I know it’s $$$$
 
I went with P285/70-17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers after talking to a Nitto rep, who told me that the P rated tires are also 2 ply sidewalls and 6 ply tread. I've only had them for a few days, but am very happy so far.
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P rated tires is the way to go unless you actually NEED the LT sidewall plys.

Switching back to 285 P rated tires was a pleasant change after the LT tires I had on there
 

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