Paralyzed by indecision on tires

[harper7]

The new nittos seem like they would be worth looking into for you. Recon or something. Heard good things Or maybe Baja T/A KR3


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The Nitto Recons are only made in 20,22 or 24 inch now, and only in E or F load rating but they do say "additional sizes coming soon"

I was looking into them and went with the 285/70/17 Ridge Grapplers in SL load range at $235 a piece at Discount Tire ..........for now. All 3 of my trucks can run the same size wheel and tire which means I can mix it up.

Sticking with around 33's until I regear....learned that lesson of going too big of tires,before regearing on my last 5th build.On the highway and the slightest grade or windy and the transmission will drive you nuts going from 4th to 5th so have to drive in 4th and then gas mileage is really, really bad.

 

[Brawwp]

Selling this van to purchase a 4Runner, but thought I’d chime in on a nice set of tires. These are maxxis razr AT tires. Not sure if they’ve been mentioned on this thread yet. They’ve been amazing!

 

[CharlesNellis]

Post some pics when you get them installed, and let us know how they balanced out and ride. I'm going to be needing tires soon and saw those.

No pics yet. I'll snap some tomorrow.

I have a Limited so went from the 20" rims and stock geolanders to 17" FN six shooters with the 265/70r17 trail terrains.

No rubbing with the 0 offset wheels! The trail terrains have a more round profile than square.

Steering feels lighter. Might be because of the offset or maybe cause the wheel/tire combo is much lighter.

I'm probably sitting at about 59lbs per corner compared to 74-75ish with the limited wheels.

Accelerarion improved due to cutting about 15 lbs per corner. I'm thinking it makes a bigger difference for me because of the AWD.

Shifting is faster and less jerky prob due to the weight savings again.

Road noise is slightly louder than stock.

Handling is about the same with a nod to stickiness of the rubber going to BFGs.

Discount tire did a good job balancing them. No shimmies or shakes even going 70 on the highway.

 

[mbm112]

No pics yet. I'll snap some tomorrow.

I have a Limited so went from the 20" rims and stock geolanders to 17" FN six shooters with the 265/70r17 trail terrains.

No rubbing with the 0 offset wheels! The trail terrains have a more round profile than square.

Steering feels lighter. Might be because of the offset or maybe cause the wheel/tire combo is much lighter.

I'm probably sitting at about 59lbs per corner compared to 74-75ish with the limited wheels.

Accelerarion improved due to cutting about 15 lbs per corner. I'm thinking it makes a bigger difference for me because of the AWD.

Shifting is faster and less jerky prob due to the weight savings again.

Road noise is slightly louder than stock.

Handling is about the same with a nod to stickiness of the rubber going to BFGs.

Discount tire did a good job balancing them. No shimmies or shakes even going 70 on the highway.

You got pics with the six shooters? I’m thinking of running them with 285 Toyo AT3s once my Wildpeaks wear out.


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[colemania]

Frozen...

Would love some more info on the new Trail-Terrain impressions from you guys. Stuck between those, Yoko Geolander G015, and Falken Wildpeaks. Primarily interested in mpg, road noise, and grip on dirt. Lots of traveling sales calls w speaker phone makes road noise sadly important :-(

 

[GarySp]

I am also interested in a quiet AT in a stock size. My new to me SR5 has new GeoDrive tires LT265x70/17 E installed by dealer and I think they just look like a highway tire, can't find any info on them.

 

[CharlesNellis]

I am also interested in a quiet AT in a stock size. My new to me SR5 has new GeoDrive tires LT265x70/17 E installed by dealer and I think they just look like a highway tire, can't find any info on them.

Would love some more info on the new Trail-Terrain impressions from you guys. Stuck between those, Yoko Geolander G015, and Falken Wildpeaks. Primarily interested in mpg, road noise, and grip on dirt. Lots of traveling sales calls w speaker phone makes road noise sadly important :-(

Road noise is slightly louder than my stock geolanders. I can also "feel" the tread blocks at times when traveling at slow speeds, but this is coming from me getting used to the smooth factory tires most likely.

I've also had Cooper at3 4s and falken wild peaks on a previous 5th gen 4runner with the factory trail wheels.

The coopers were slightly quieter than the trail terrains, but louder than the factory Dunlop that came with the sr5 rims. Less "hum" than the trail terrains more like a louder highway tire would sound.

The falken wild peaks were the loudest of my tires. Noticeable but not annoying hum at highway speeds. Couldn't feel the treads at low speed like I can the trail terrains, but they were E-rated and I ran them at 44 psi.

 

[colemania]

Road noise is slightly louder than my stock geolanders. I can also "feel" the tread blocks at times when traveling at slow speeds, but this is coming from me getting used to the smooth factory tires most likely.

I've also had Cooper at3 4s and falken wild peaks on a previous 5th gen 4runner with the factory trail wheels.

The coopers were slightly quieter than the trail terrains, but louder than the factory Dunlop that came with the sr5 rims. Less "hum" than the trail terrains more like a louder highway tire would sound.

The falken wild peaks were the loudest of my tires. Noticeable but not annoying hum at highway speeds. Couldn't feel the treads at low speed like I can the trail terrains, but they were E-rated and I ran them at 44 psi.

Always so interested as so many say the wild peaks have virtually no road noise but they certainly look the most aggressive and I have no idea what those folks are comparing it to. SUPER APPRECIATED that you have experience with all of them and took the time.

So if you had to rank by noise (least to most):
Hway Tire > Geolandar G015 > Cooper AT3 > Trail Terrain > Wild Peak?

 

[CharlesNellis]

Always so interested as so many say the wild peaks have virtually no road noise but they certainly look the most aggressive and I have no idea what those folks are comparing it to. SUPER APPRECIATED that you have experience with all of them and took the time.

So if you had to rank by noise (least to most):
Hway Tire > Geolandar G015 > Cooper AT3 > Trail Terrain > Wild Peak?

The Geolanders are the G96B model.

There's definitely a hum to the wild peaks when compared to stock.. not mud terrain hum territory but definitely present. I've had km3 mud terrains on a tacoma before too and those were the definition of highway hum. The wild peaks don't reach those levels and are probably quiet to those who are used to running full out mud terrains.

265/70r17 Dunlops = 245/60r20 Geolander G96 > 265/70r17 Cooper AT3 > 265/70r17 Trail Terrain > 255/80r17 Wild Peak

I would have bought the Cooper at3 4s again cause they plain worked for noise, ride quality, and snow but they look a little boring compared to the Trail Terrains and I'm always a sucker for trying new things.

 

[CharlesNellis]

Here are some pics of my new FN six shooters and 265/70r17 Trail Terrains. Loving the stance of the wheels and non-plain looking sidewalls of the new tires.

The reasons I went with the Trail Terrains:

Light weight: listed as 38 lbs on BFG website for 265/70r17

Full depth sipes: I'm not into losing snow performance after 3/32nds or 4/32nds of the tread wears off. I live in the upper Midwest.

Mountain snowflake rated: Taken with a grain of salt but it gives me a little more confidence in the tires knowing the manufacturer gave enough rats ass to get them tested.

Mall crawler sidewall: I don't offroad much (Maybe once a year) but I find regular all season sidewalls too boring.

Cost: Were about $30-40 cheaper per tire then the other choices I was considering (michelin defender mainly but back to the sidewall thing on those)

 

[Dynamo]

Here are some pics of my new FN six shooters and 265/70r17 Trail Terrains. Loving the stance of the wheels and non-plain looking sidewalls of the new tires.

The reasons I went with the Trail Terrains:

Light weight: listed as 38 lbs on BFG website for 265/70r17

Full depth sipes: I'm not into losing snow performance after 3/32nds or 4/32nds of the tread wears off. I live in the upper Midwest.

Mountain snowflake rated: Taken with a grain of salt but it gives me a little more confidence in the tires knowing the manufacturer gave enough rats ass to get them tested.

Mall crawler sidewall: I don't offroad much (Maybe once a year) but I find regular all season sidewalls too boring.

Cost: Were about $30-40 cheaper per tire then the other choices I was considering (michelin defender mainly but back to the sidewall thing on those)

Looks good, both the wheels and tires. I really am considering these now though I think I will do the white lettering out. I believe I am pretty much in the same boat as you in terms of what kind of tire I want and these seem to fit the bill.

 

[Dynamo]

As I was walking out of Sam's Club today I noticed they had Trail Terrains so I took a couple of pics in case anyone is interested.

 

[GarySp]

I also posted in the tire section but today I ordered the Cooper AT3 4s in stock 265/70-17 size and will probably get on Thursday. I'll try to remember to report back here but if I say they're quiet temper that with the knowledge that I have hearing loss from VietNam.

 

[1jzgte]

great looking tire.. i just slapped on Advantage TA sport LT mall crawler tires and theyve been pretty good so far. Confident in corners once you get used to the sidewall squish. Good dry traction and good wet traction.

I wish the trail TA was an option in august when i got these new tires. I would've definitely gone w/ these.

 

[evilbeagle]

The Maxxis Razr AT's are on my short list! There are some great reviews on these from some of the Australia/New Zealand overland folks who've been running them for a while. They're kind of hard to find locally (4WheelParts has them, as does SimpleTire, etc.) but specs seem good, and they've got a 50k mile treadwear warranty in the LT sizes (60k for P-Metric).

 

[zzdocxx]

We need to start a support group for this topic.

Oh wait that is what this website is for . . .

 

[jrandom]

We need to start a support group for this topic.

Oh wait that is what this website if for . . .

lol, right :biggrin1: :thumb:

 

[KarrotJuice]

As I was walking out of Sam's Club today I noticed they had Trail Terrains so I took a couple of pics in case anyone is interested.

On my 2nd set of KO2s (which I do enjoy) but these will be my next set...just because.

 

[Superjet]

I couldn't resist the price for my limited 20in rims.
Cooper Discoverer A/T All-Season 275/55R20 117T Tire - Walmart.com

 

[Humble Leader]

Michelin (Defender) LTX M/S, which has been around forever, is wonderful - never slipped for me in slush or snow, I have them on my old 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee. They are able to sipe deep slush without floating. (I have the 30x9.5R15).

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just bought 5 of these and had them mounted last week. I run a dedicated winter setup though since it gets well below freezing up here. they are michelins as well (x-ice 2 or 3) which I run on every vehicle. I have a set of basically brand new dueler H/Ts on the factory 20s now that I don't know what to do with, sensors and all, including the spare. I found the duelers always rode firm on the 20" so I have a 17" set up for both my winter and summer rims. never had an issue with Michelin tires, ever and the 17" rim and 265/70/17 tire profile is much more comfortable