Poly sway bar bushings?

[555R]

poly bushings

it changes a lot in terms of feel
i had the displeasure of doing the entire suspension on my evo...mind you its just under 600 whp but about 450 on the low boost tune.
it makes the car so much tighter and you will hear more noise and feel more vibration...ie gear whine from the differentials and more suspension vibration like smaller bumps but now it corners even more insanely.
as for just antiswaybars it should reduce deflection if thats the right word. Rubber gives a little whereas poly does not. it should give some improvement on turns but nothing like doing literally ever rubber bushing under the vehicle.
i can say it was the best and worst 100 i spent on the car now i can't wait for the first track day to really push the limits.
i do think if you did have kdss it would prevent the stock rubber from blowing out which I've seen a few on the boards here talk about.

 

[555R]

you should have done a writeup!
my lease ends the end of this year however toyota is calling me on a regular basis now for lease inspection...im quite interested in the cement gray trd pro ora trail offroad( they split the trail one with optional kdss and premium or something like that)
maybe ill get a white kdss not sure yet
i will then transfer all my little goodies to the new one and slowly do bushings.
i do believe their benefit is well worth the headache.

Well after 2 full days of wheeling, some loaded down fully and some partial load and an hour drive both ways loaded, I can honelstly say I love the bushings and it is $42 bucks well spent. This morning on the way to work I got to fully test unloaded cornering and it is MUCH better than OEM was. My oem bushings were in great shape and I am confidant that this is not the effect of just getting better bushings back in, my truck has 34k on them.

Hope this post helps other get their suspension performing as best it can be!

 

[ToolUser1]

Definitely makes a difference

Thanks for all the helpful discussion! I just swapped in the Whiteline grease-less rear sway bar bushings and it took all of 15 minutes on a lift. On an '11 trail you'll need a 14mm socket for 3 of the nuts, and a 14mm closed end wrench for the 4th (the gas tank skid plate interferes a bit). Unfortunately I ordered the wrong size, 19mm instead of 21mm, but at $17 I went ahead and installed anyways. There's probably a 2-3mm gap in the bushing cut.

I don't know how that little part makes a difference but handling is noticeably more confident in the corners with no apparent loss of ride quality (after a quick 10 mile trip). I'd say it's probably the best cost/effort/benefit mod I've ever made on a vehicle - basically 20 minutes & $20. Again, this is on a 2011 Trail w/55,000 miles.

I'll post an update when I do the fronts, maybe tomorrow. I'll also be ordering the end link kits & and getting the correct size bushings for the rear. If the wrong size is a noticeable improvement, hopefully the right size will be even better - I should have measured...

 

[Hadelson]

Well after 2 full days of wheeling, some loaded down fully and some partial load and an hour drive both ways loaded, I can honelstly say I love the bushings and it is $42 bucks well spent. This morning on the way to work I got to fully test unloaded cornering and it is MUCH better than OEM was. My oem bushings were in great shape and I am confidant that this is not the effect of just getting better bushings back in, my truck has 34k on them.

Hope this post helps other get their suspension performing as best it can be!

Pretty amazing how much improved the handling is with this simple in-expensive upgrade. You will also note a big improvement in high winds having less side buffeting and pushing. I do this upgrade to all my cars.

 

[ToolUser1]

I just swapped in the fronts - just as easy as the rears. I didn't bother putting it on a lift this time, or even jack it up, just did it on the ground with no issues. I did notice the tolerances on the whiteline bushings aren't super tight. The driver's side bushing fit perfectly, the passenger side bushing has a gap in the bushing split of ~1.5mm. Doesn't seem to be a big deal, I may just need to grease more often as it's a route for water/grit to get in.

A quick drive around town and again, handling is much improved. I'd say this is how the handling should have been from the factory - firmer, flatter, and much better road feel. Even if I need to grease the bushings every few months to prevent squeaking it will be worth it to me.

 

[Scharfschütze]

Reporting back, mine are great so far. Anyone else taken the plunge?

 

[WODWorldWide]

Do we know of any options to replace bushings on the 2014 Trail with KDSS...
Mine are pretty much shot and I hate the squeaking every time I go over a speed bump. I will try some white lithium grease but they are dry and cracking up front so I might as well replace them.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Ordering now...

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

I'll be installing mine Friday night, rear only. Also installing poly end link bushings in the back. Figure those will make it even better!

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Looking on the ToyTec site, they offer a kit for the rear sway bar. Their kit states the bar is 17mm however you guys are using 19mm bushings?

 

[perf0rmance]

more things to add to my wish list lol

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

I can tell you guys i'll be removing the end link bushings and only keeping the bar bushings. Ride is really harsh on the road with the end link bushings in place, not liking it at all.

 

[Ezlife45]

Anybody try this on a Limited?

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Installed these front and rear. Perfect fit, greasable, big improvement in cornering and ride.

Front Prothane 19-1185

Rear Prothane 19-1162-BL

 

[Hadelson]

Completed this minor mod to all three of myT4r's owned. In-expensive and noted improvement in handling.

 

[Okki]

Has anyone used the ones from :
Energy Suspension Parts - Polyurethane Suspension Bushings

They offer a zerk fitting bracket version which would let you grease the sway bar poly bushings more easily.

Thanks and have a great day!
Okki

 

[1jzgte]

Totally confused here. Why are there so many different size front sway bars? I'm coming across some 19mm 21mm and 29mm

WTF??

More specifically from this page

https://nolathane.com/sway-bar-bushings?find=2010-toyota-4runner-sr5-295466

 

[rayofsi]

Do all NON-KDSS share the same swaybars? Looking to do this for my TRDP

 

[rayofsi]

Installed these front and rear. Perfect fit, greasable, big improvement in cornering and ride.

Front Prothane 19-1185

Rear Prothane 19-1162-BL

thanks, ordered a set

 

[TRUSTYAXE]

Has anyone used the ones from :
Energy Suspension Parts - Polyurethane Suspension Bushings

They offer a zerk fitting bracket version which would let you grease the sway bar poly bushings more easily.

Thanks and have a great day!
Okki

Considered those as the zerk fitting would be nice. The bracket however does not look nearly as robust as the factory one. Haven’t tried them though so it’s just an observation.