Possible I4Turbo for next 4Runner

[thennen]

It’s funny how psychologically it affects people’s choices seeing/hearing about an i4 engine in a truck. If you ever drive one that fear goes away real quick.

For me personally, an I-4 is fine. I'm fine with low power and slow acceleration since I don't tow anything and am not in a rush. Heck, I owned an '88 with a 22R-E for 300k miles. People passed me on bicycles ;-) I simply don't want a turbo. The fewer possible failure points, the better, IMO.

 

[LandCruiser]

Turbo 4 could be cool.

Cobb tune that shit.

My Cobb tuned Macan 4 banger makes over 300hp.

 

[bischofs]

Why?

Better power, better tq, more tq lower in the rev band, better economy, probably runs on regular gas.

turbos add power but also require more fuel, only at part load are 4 cyl turbo more efficient than v6

 

[4RunnerTina]

Turbo 4 sounds good to me, can produce plenty of power while increasing mpg.

 

[Az4runnin]

Would Turbo require Higher Octane Fuel which is a Lil more $$$? Had to with my '90 Grand Prix Turbo.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

More than likely it's going to be an I4, maybe a Turbo'd I4 with a hybrid drivetrain. Which I am thinking is a mistake on Toyota's part, but they're locked in on making their entire line Hybrids going forward (if the Sienna is anything to go by.)

I doubt they'd put the twin-turbo V6 from the Tundra in the 4Runner, it's too "big" of an engine for their plans going forward and they axed the Land Cruiser in the US rather than pull over one of their nicer Diesel options from overseas.

I imagine the 2023? 4Runner will be rather questionable for a lot of prior 4Runner owners.

 

[schmittyT4r]

Turbo 4 could be cool.

Cobb tune that shit.

My Cobb tuned Macan 4 banger makes over 300hp.

The problem with this is that turbo i4's are inefficient. Been through enough blown turbos or turbo-related problems with other cars to understand that they aren't worth it. (Several turbo'd Subarus, a GTi, and a newer BMW). EngineeringExplained makes the best case against small turbo'd motors with a well thought-out presentation as to why. But hey, if you like burning money, more power to ya.

I'd rather see another v8, reworked v6, or a hybrid v6/i4 powertrain. Hybrid makes the most sense if you're considering what people like to do with these things.

 

[Nick Nostril]

As an ex WRX guy, no thanks to the I4 turbo on a 4runner. It's fine for a toy car like a WRX (fun!), but not for something you want to go 300k miles without major problems. I'm sure turbo tech has come a long way since my '04 Subaru, but when I think of longevity, I simply don't think of turbos.

Certainly would be nice to get better gas mileage with the 4R, but I really didn't buy it thinking it was gonna be a Prius.

/ Disclaimer: should note that I never had any problem with my Subie engine in the 105k miles I had it, but know plenty who did.

 

[Nick Nostril]

I should also say that one of the reasons I bought my '21 was fear of just this type of thing happening. Wanted the old tech for the long haul. I have 4 banger cars in the garage that I can drive around town. The 4R will be for trips, fun, and occasional use around town or to work. In ten years it'll probably have 120k on it!

 

[Piggity]

I don't see why they couldn't make a 2.7L version of their 8AR-FTS engine? The 1AR-FE is 2.7L but non turbo. A 2.7L 1AR-FTS could be 300hp/300+ lbs/ft without breaking a sweat and still be reliable. Add a hybrid option for even better mpg....it's definitely possible, it's just whether Toyota is going to go super conservative like they always do or not???



Straight from Wiki:
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8AR-FTS
A 2.0 L turbocharged direct-injected member of the AR family, fitted with VVT-iW it is able to operate in both the Otto and a modified-Atkinson cycle. Debuted in the Lexus NX200t.[17] Power output in the 2015 NX200t is 175 kW (235 hp) at 4,800 - 5,600 rpm and 350 N⋅m (258 lb⋅ft) at 1,650 - 4000 rpm. The 8AR-FTS engine has Lexus’ ESTEC D-4ST (Economy with Superior Thermal Efficient Combustion Direct injection 4-stroke with Turbo) fuel injection. With separate twin injectors for both direct and port injection, ESTEC D-4ST could perform high-pressure direct injection into the cylinder and conventional intake port injection, or direct cylinder injection only, according to engine speed.[18] Power output in some applications, e.g. Lexus IS 200t XE30, Lexus GS 200t and Lexus RC 200t is bumped up by 5 kW (6.7 hp) up to 180 kW (242 hp) in the same rev range but torque remains the same.[18]

Applications:

Lexus NX 200t (renamed NX 300) AGZ10/15
Lexus IS 200t (renamed IS 300) XE30[19]
Lexus GS 200t (renamed GS 300) L10[20]
Lexus RX 200t (renamed RX 300) AL20[21]
Toyota Crown[22]
Lexus RC 200t (renamed RC 300)
Toyota Highlander (XU50, China)
Toyota Harrier Turbo (XU60, Japan, 2017–) [23]

 

[CookieRoe]

Do you love how a mod helped out with the youtube vid? /S

 

[Satter]

I was watching the latest Scotty Kilmer video. And someone submitted a question asking Scotty what he thought of the latest TR4 with a turbo. Did Toyota come out with a turbo charged 4Runner this year?

Time stamp 09:10

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8FBPCtvZPI8

 

[5thToy]

I was watching the latest Scotty Kilmer video. And someone submitted a question asking Scotty what he thought of the latest TR4 with a turbo. Did Toyota come out with a turbo charged 4Runner this year?

Time stamp 09:10

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8FBPCtvZPI8

I saw that. I just assumed Scotty hadn't done his homework and took the question at face value, commenting on his expectations for potential reliability based on Toyota's past record. I haven't seen any announcement regarding the next platform. There is no new motor on any current 4Runner.

 

[FD7683]

Anything slapped with a turbo won't outlive anything N/A. For example, the 1.5L Honda turbo engine with their oil consumption issues compared to the reliable N/A 2.0L they released the same time............

 

[bowrappyo]

Would buy an i4 turbo in a second

 

[HiluxSurf SSR-G]

this is what i found about the next prado:

Next Toyota LandCruiser Prado here in 2023 - motoring.com.au
LC300:
新型ノート ランクル ノア…続々登場!! 期待膨らむ次期型全情報 9選 - 自動車情報誌「ベストカー」

 

[CookieRoe]

this is what i found about the next prado:

Next Toyota LandCruiser Prado here in 2023 - motoring.com.au
LC300:
新型ノート ランクル ノア…続々登場!! 期待膨らむ次期型全情報 9選 - 自動車情報誌「ベストカー」

2.4 hybrid powertrain has been mentioned in Kirk's video. (9:14 mark). These powertrains are going to have 282 hp, so no one should panic. That new prado sure looks incredible, it's a damn shame Toyota never brought it over (as a Toyota, not a Lexus).

 

[Nimrod]

The turbo 4 will be fine if they put the 8 speed transmission with it.

 

[CutthroatSlam]

Ford vs Dodge vs Toyota: