1engineer
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Some Calvin Borel you'll make with those specs. Keep on engineering.
Haha yep and I wanted to be a jockey (and fireman, and policeman, and stuntman etc) when I was little!
Some Calvin Borel you'll make with those specs. Keep on engineering.
Haha yep and I wanted to be a jockey (and fireman, and policeman, and stuntman etc) when I was little!
I have an 07 Sport Edition v8 4wd. I like the power of the 8 but I think the 2012 LE is much more refined. Its a personal choice. I think the bigger question is the GX460 better than the LE. I was underwhelmed by the Lexus at $20K+ more. The 6 speed on the Lexus with the V8 seemed more anemic than the V6 on the LE. I think people don't realize the additional gears totally change the feel of the vehicles between 4th and 5th gen. Drive the Lexus and I think you'll think the 4.6L V8 isn't all that.
Here is why the GX is $20K more!
Yeah...but no hood scoop...........:nerd:
This is a silly argument. Choosing the best 4runner is like choosing the best Victoria's Secret model....you can't really go wrong.
Here is why the GX is $20K more!
The differences between the 4Runner and GX.
6,500 lbs. tow rating (class 3 WD hitch)
Sequential Multiport Fuel Injection (SFI); Electronic
Throttle Control System with intelligence (ETCS-i)
Emission Certification ULEV-II
Full time 4WD and TORSEN® Limited Slip with electronic locking feature (only available on LE 4Runner)
Air springs (rear)
Computer controlled Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS)
KDSS (standard on all models)
Michelin tires
Integrated front and rear mudguards
Three-coat paint with scratch resistant anti-acid rain clear coat
Integrated illuminated running boards w/ground lighting and Lexus “L” emblem on the scuff plates
Rain-sensing, variable intermittent front windshield wipers w/deicer
Water repellent front doors and windshield glass
Heated, tilt-down in reverse, electrochromic self-dimming outer mirrors with
power auto retract
Roof-mounted shark fin and glass antenna
Auburn Bubinga (real) wood trim on doors, dash, steering wheel, shift knob, above glove box, and on center console
Semi-aniline leather trim with perforated diamond-cut pattern w/contrast stitching
10-way power front seats (with power lumbar)
Heated and ventilated front seats
Rear heat and air conditioning (3 zone auto climate control)
Lexus Memory System for seats, mirrors, steering wheel, climate control and radio setting (system is linked to each FOB for separate user settings)
Second-row heated seats with 40/20/40 split, fold, recline, fore and aft slide adjustment, 60:40 walk-in
Third-row seats with 50/50 split and power fold flat, flush-with-floor (buttons to operate located in the cargo area and by the passenger side second-row seats)
Auto-dimming electrochromic rearview mirror w/compass
Auto leveling HID headlamps with Adaptive Front Lighting system w/headlight washers
Electric fuel lid door release
Front and rear door courtesy lights, glove box light, dome light, front map lights, LED front and rear seat footwell, LED door handle well, shift lever and LED console illumination, rear reading lamps.
Reading lamps in 2nd and 3rd row
LED tail lights
Lexus Personalized Settings (LPS) set from nav system.
Two speed, auto up/down (all) power windows (slows just before closing)
Power tilt-and-telescopic steering wheel column with automatic tilt away, for easy egress.
Steering wheel–mounted cruise control switches; audio controls; camera controls; multi-systems toggle switch and voice command button for navigation
Tonneau cover
Brake override system
Auto leveling rear air suspension
Rear Seat Entertainment System includes remote control and holder
Intuitive Park Assist
8” HDD Navigation; Lexus Enform® Destination Assist, and eDestination; Lexus Insider™; voice command casual-speech voice recognition system; XM NavTraffic® and NavWeather™; XM Sports and Stocks;
Mark Levinson® Surround Audio with 17 speakers,330 watts of power, all channels driven, @ less than 0.1 percent Total Harmonic Distortion (THD), 20-20kHz and DVD/CD changer
Wide-view monitor system - Front, Rear and Side Camera
Pre-Collision System
Dynamic Radar Cruise Control w/Crawl Control
Driver Attention Camera system
Lane Departure Alert
Intelligent high-beams
Koz
Yeah, but to some of these people their version is "best" and they will argue their point forever. V8's for example: I could care less about the low RPM higher torque curve of a V8. If I needed something to tow heavy things with it would NOT be a 4Runner. Too many better tow vehicles out there. Lexus vs. Toyota: If I wanted the luxury I would have bought a Lexus - simple. No comparision. So really it seems some are "justifying" based on their own feelings and made up data (5G too slow for example).
More like $70K+ or $25K+ more than a 4Runner LE with those options and at that price I'm looking/no buying the Porsche Cayenne S because why would you buy a Lexus when you can have a Porsche?
The main reason I passed on the GX460 was I was really disappointed with the performance of the Lexus. All the buttons, warning lights, adjustable suspension, cameras, chimes, burled woods couldn't overcome the short shifting, anemic feel of the Lexus. I will say the low speed steering is better on the GX however.
I priced up a GX, with a good stereo and things you'd expect in a luxury SUV it will be $70k. Lexus makes squishy vehicles in general. When shopping for my last car I need AWD and 4 doors. The IS250 is a slush box and not to mention SMALL. The ES will put you to sleep (wasn't AWD either) and the GS350 AWD was nice but drove like a barge. I ended up with my G35x as it had personality, something all the Lexus cars I tested lacked. I'd be willing to bet there are just as many Cayenne's off road as there are GX's. Bottom line, buy what you like and that's okay because its what you like. Plenty of people buy IS, GS, ES Lexus cars and love them. Great, just not for me. Same goes with the GX or the 4th gen or insert vehicle here.
I priced up a GX, with a good stereo and things you'd expect in a luxury SUV it will be $70k. Lexus makes squishy vehicles in general. When shopping for my last car I need AWD and 4 doors. The IS250 is a slush box and not to mention SMALL. The ES will put you to sleep (wasn't AWD either) and the GS350 AWD was nice but drove like a barge. I ended up with my G35x as it had personality, something all the Lexus cars I tested lacked. I'd be willing to bet there are just as many Cayenne's off road as there are GX's. Bottom line, buy what you like and that's okay because its what you like. Plenty of people buy IS, GS, ES Lexus cars and love them. Great, just not for me. Same goes with the GX or the 4th gen or insert vehicle here.
I got the Pemium GX with the Mark Levinson, wide-view monitoring system, crawl control, park assist and the towing package (special order) for $59K.
There is a BIG difference between the IS250 and IS350 AWD. I have a IS350 2wd and spank G35s and G37s at will.
Koz
Not stock you don't. My 92 laser spanks Porsche turbos.
Not stock you don't. My 92 laser spanks Porsche turbos.