Previous Owner Skipped 60k Maintenance!

[SMEE]

So I registered with Toyota Owners - Official Toyota Owners Website last night (which I highly advise EVERY Toyota owner to do) and was shocked to find that the previous owner declined the 60k maintenance. My '06 v8 4x4 currently has 72,000 miles and I bought it at 66,000. Should I wait until the 90k maintenance, or what? I've visually inspected the timing belt and it looks fine. I've also greased the 6 points under the vehicle to reduce the "driveshaft clunk," any other recommendations?

 

[M1911]

Not everyone is religious about following the maintenance schedule. Also, they may have had the maintenance performed by a local garage, rather than a dealer, so it wouldn't show up on that site. Dealer service rates are very expensive, so I take my 4Runner to a local repair place instead.

I don't know why you be so shocked about it.

 

[SMEE]

I don't know why you be so shocked about it.

I was shocked because I know certain parts may only have a 60k life expectancy and skipping their scheduled maintenance (or replacement) would greatly increase my chances of a catastrophic failure and being broken down on the side of the road in rural Mississippi.

Hopefully you are right in the assumption that the previous owner took it to his local mechanic to do the service.

 

[MikeInNH]

Most of the 60k maintenance is INSPECTION...Not necessarily fix/replace.

I've NEVER done mine...But then again I've inspected the vehicle for wear many times and replaced as needed. Brakes is part of the 60k maintenance schedule. I had stated to hear a noise on my brakes at 50k. So I looked and the front brakes were worn down to the warning tab. So I replaced them. Obviously at 60k miles there was no need to check them again.

 

[ur7x]

I was shocked because I know certain parts may only have a 60k life expectancy and skipping their scheduled maintenance (or replacement) would greatly increase my chances of a catastrophic failure and being broken down on the side of the road in rural Mississippi.

Hopefully you are right in the assumption that the previous owner took it to his local mechanic to do the service.

Most of the 60k maintenance is INSPECTION...Not necessarily fix/replace.

I've NEVER done mine...But then again I've inspected the vehicle for wear many times and replaced as needed. Brakes is part of the 60k maintenance schedule. I had stated to hear a noise on my brakes at 50k. So I looked and the front brakes were worn down to the warning tab. So I replaced them. Obviously at 60k miles there was no need to check them again.

Yes to this... Exactly which parts did they "miss" at the 60K servicing... Which parts only have a 60K life expectancy? (the V8 timing belt is good to 90K... mine was replaced at 100K and looked brand new, as did the water pump) I agree that our trucks deserve the very best servicing... But I read here WAY too often about people "falling" for at best "questionable" servicing... Lots of perfectly good water pumps going into the dumpster... and the latest BS craze... Power Steering fluid flush! LOL... its dark and brown now LOL! Time to swap it out! :ybrick:

And how exactly do you VI the timing belt.. if you dug into the engine far enough to see the timing belt you were about 90% of the way there to replacing it.

 

[SMEE]

Sounds like I've mistaken the timing belt for the fan belt. Whoops.

 

[ridefast]

Just catch up on the maintenance and inspections! No big deal!!!

 

[PaulB-2006 T4R]

So I registered with Toyota Owners - Official Toyota Owners Website last night (which I highly advise EVERY Toyota owner to do) and was shocked to find that the previous owner declined the 60k maintenance. My '06 v8 4x4 currently has 72,000 miles and I bought it at 66,000. Should I wait until the 90k maintenance, or what? I've visually inspected the timing belt and it looks fine. I've also greased the 6 points under the vehicle to reduce the "driveshaft clunk," any other recommendations?

Go find the previous owner and kick him where it counts, how dare he abuse a 4Runner, at least on the maintenance. :boxer::boxer:

Your 4R is not going to fall apart because the idiot did not perform the 60k but I'd suggest doing it now to catch up and then follow the schedule.

 

[Gatafly]

My previous truck, a Ford Ranger 4x4 never saw the dealership after I drove it off the lot and never once did I follow the service schedule. I changed all the fluids over to Amsoil and then only changed oil and antifreeze on a schedule. I checked things from time to time and repaired as things wore to the point of almost needing replacement. I just sold it with 242k miles and it was still going strong with very little maintenance over the years. 90k for a timing belt is actually about half life, but it is good to do it earlier due to the V8 being an interference engine. My 4runner will likely not see a dealership with me either. . . . just keep an eye on things, fix as things wear and keep the fluids changed and she will go 300k plus. I suppose for those that do not do any of their own work on their 4runner then it is good to follow the schedule just so someone at least is able to check items for wear.

 

[MikeInNH]

Timing belts are one of those things you can't really tell how good it is by looking at it.

On many cars you can inspect the belt pretty easily. My wifes Accords you could easily remove the top timing belt cover to inspect the belt. I've seen belts that looked perfectly fine...then less then 5k miles later...POP...

Water-pumps...You replace the water pump...not necessarily because it's worn..but because you're replacing the timing belt...and to replace the pump you also need to replace the belt....99% of the cost of the $500+ timing belt replacement is labor. You don't want to replace the belt and NOT replace the pump..then have the pump die 20k miles later and have to pay that $500+ service for the timing belt.

 

[MikeInNH]

just keep an eye on things, fix as things wear and keep the fluids changed and she will go 300k plus

I've kept 3 vehicles past the 300k mile mark that way....and two others past the 250k mile mark...all were still in EXCELLENT running order when we replaced them.

After I buy a new vehicle..it only sees the dealership for warranty work. I do ALL PM and MOST maintenance.....things like struts or exhaust I won't do.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Timing belts are one of those things you can't really tell how good it is by looking at it.

On many cars you can inspect the belt pretty easily. My wifes Accords you could easily remove the top timing belt cover to inspect the belt. I've seen belts that looked perfectly fine...then less then 5k miles later...POP...

Water-pumps...You replace the water pump...not necessarily because it's worn..but because you're replacing the timing belt...and to replace the pump you also need to replace the belt....99% of the cost of the $500+ timing belt replacement is labor. You don't want to replace the belt and NOT replace the pump..then have the pump die 20k miles later and have to pay that $500+ service for the timing belt.

That is actually the entire reason "So many 'good' waterpumps get thrown out" its not that the water pump is automatically bad at 90k, its that you're tearing into the engine to replace the timing belt which you would end up doing if you wanted to replace the water pump. Not to mention you DO NOT want to risk the waterpump seizing up and tearing the timing belt up. Its just insurance and a cheaper alternative.

 

[M1911]

I was shocked because I know certain parts may only have a 60k life expectancy and skipping their scheduled maintenance (or replacement) would greatly increase my chances of a catastrophic failure and being broken down on the side of the road in rural Mississippi. .

Oh really? And just what parts would that be?

You are way over thinking this. Sit down, have a beer, and worry about things that are worth worrying about, like whether the Red Sox can maintain their lead over the Yankees.

 

[stanleybb50]

Oh really? And just what parts would that be?

You are way over thinking this. Sit down, have a beer, and worry about things that are worth worrying about, like whether the Red Sox can maintain their lead over the Yankees.

^ what he said! No worries at all.

Oh and too bad Pittsburgh still doesn't have a ball club...!


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[4RunnerFan]

There isn't much I can add to this thread except that the maintenance info provided in the "For Owners" section of Toyota's website is not just updated by the dealer for service they provide.

You can do your own maintenance and update the same file accordingly. As someone else said above, I also have not taken my 4Runner to the dealer for service. With excellent tips provided in this forum, I was able to perform every one of the items listed in the 30k maintenance schedule for our '08 V6 4WD. Each item is now listed in "My Toyota," so the vehicle will be easy to sell down the road and the new owner can be confident all is well.

Oh, but wait, I'm not ever going to sell it! My son wants it.

 

[KB084RUNNER]

I never list my maintenance on line. I keep a log book with dates/mileage/receipte and give it to the new owner when I sell it. I also do the 60k at 50 or 55k anyway. When people see my maintenance records that usually induces them to buy the vehicle. I do more than the factory recommended. Big selling point with a used truck.

 

[stanleybb50]

There isn't much I can add to this thread except that the maintenance info provided in the "For Owners" section of Toyota's website is not just updated by the dealer for service they provide.

You can do your own maintenance and update the same file accordingly. As someone else said above, I also have not taken my 4Runner to the dealer for service. With excellent tips provided in this forum, I was able to perform every one of the items listed in the 30k maintenance schedule for our '08 V6 4WD. Each item is now listed in "My Toyota," so the vehicle will be easy to sell down the road and the new owner can be confident all is well.

Oh, but wait, I'm not ever going to sell it! My son wants it.

^^I do the same on the Toyota website and also track on the forum in my signature for easy finding.

I may start doing what KB08Runner does as well and quit tracking on here. Thing is, it doesn't take long to log, and is so helpful. I also save every receipt for oils/filters/parts/work/etc on the black binder thing that the owners manual sits in.


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[natevans65]

I would also suggest base lining your fluids as well, meaning IF you want....you can do simple maintenance fluid changes so that YOU know they are done and done correctly. For example....engine oil, radiator, transfer case and differential fluids theoretically might not need a change now, but by base lining them at 66K miles...that is you zero start point. I do this in the Amsoil "my garage" others have mentioned doing it @ Toyota. The point is....you know they are done and with a quality fluid and you can track your mileage and maintenance online.

 

[KB084RUNNER]

I would also suggest base lining your fluids as well, meaning IF you want....you can do simple maintenance fluid changes so that YOU know they are done and done correctly. For example....engine oil, radiator, transfer case and differential fluids theoretically might not need a change now, but by base lining them at 66K miles...that is you zero start point. I do this in the Amsoil "my garage" others have mentioned doing it @ Toyota. The point is....you know they are done and with a quality fluid and you can track your mileage and maintenance online.

+1 That is the first thing I do with any used vehicle. I start with all new fluids even brake system flushing. Then start a log.

 

[Offroader5]

I bought my Runner with 135k on it and have absolutely no idea what has or has not been replaced. I've had a buddy that works in the garage at a Toy dealer run the VIN to see if it shows any dealership visits, but there was nothing. Like already said though...the work could have been done elsewhere. If they DID get the work done someplace else...you still don't know for sure on something like a timing belt, if it's been replaced because there is no visual tell that it's been done.

There's now 144k on it, and I'm really trying to get the extra money together to get the timing belt/water pump done. Kinda crossing my fingers till I can get it in.

The least the owner could have done is kept a maintenance record. That's what I'm doing...I enter everything I do (maintenance related) into a spreadsheet.

BTW...the estimate I got for the whole job water pump and all was $905. Does this sould about right vs. what everyone else has paid?