Anyone wanna fathom a guess what the reported speed at time of impact was?
Seeing as the front suspension is now where the dash used to be, I would guess 150mph or so.
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Seeing as the front suspension is now where the dash used to be, I would guess 150mph or so.
hearno
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Close enough, 160 was the reported speed. Unverifiable but totally believable.
TCMach
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Yes the trayvon thing was absolutely rediculous.
I never really heard much about the porsche (the only reference to the porsche I know of was within this thread) but I know others, namely the aventador as one has split in half and thus got alot of press, are designed with a monocoque and the front and rear subframes. With much of the weight supported in the rear subframe an impact which puts a force on the rear of the vehicle could cause a splitting force. like the aventador in this video Lamborghinis are "Designed to Split in Half" in Event of a Crash? We're Not So Sure - Core77.
take a look at this site for the monocoque/subframe stuff Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4. Is it designed to split in half? I dont know, I can see it happening but I'm not sure we will ever know if Porsche/Lamborghini doesnt tell us
that GT I'm not sure is a good comparison, as SV said the front suspension is where the dash used to be, which isnt the case with the porsche
Snowy21
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My point with the signs is that what's basically a street legal race car being driven by a professional driver which apparently the guy was, should be able to negotiate that road at a speed higher than your average vehicle. Since something went drastically wrong, how is it not reasonable to think that the vehicle was speeding above and beyond what your average car would be through the same roadway?
The all caps was directed at someone bringing trayvon martin into this discussion. Ridiculous.
As for the edit, I'm aware that having the skills doesn't mean you exercise them everywhere but let's consider what is KNOWN. Race car, race car driver, terrible wreck, lots of damage.
Also, I know people keep saying the car is designed to split apart but I haven't been able to find anything about that. Anyone got a link?
I did find this tho. Except for not being burned, the damage to this Porsche looks similar to the GT. Anyone wanna fathom a guess what the reported speed at time of impact was?
Yes, race cars (and very high performance sports cars like the Carrera GT) that utilize the engine as a stressed member are designed to split in two when the monocoque is twisted in a situation as hitting a catch fence or side impact...which was exactly what happened here. Car performed as designed by Porsche besides the fire. In my unprofessional opinion he probably wasn't going excessively fast, the engine would be farther away from the monocoque if it was.
Here is an Enzo if you don't believe me or can't search on your own
http://thesmokingcupcake.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/002.jpg
Edit: That guy was going about 160 when he hit a pole. Walked away fine
The picture you posted appears to be a frontal impact, not even remotely comparable to striking a fixed object sideways.
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hearno
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Agreed but there's too much damage to the driver side of the GT for that tree to be the only object it struck. It will be interesting to see what the outcome of the investigation is.
This is civil?
hearno said:
It would be great if you showed a little respect, and didn't speculate as to the cause, in a memorial thread.
As I said, I didn't know the man. But you don't have to practice "celebrity worship" (as someone said) to show a little respect for what I think we all can agree is an untimely demise.
Apparently they were there to raise funds for victims of Typhoon Haiyan. That sounds like a fairly noble cause to me, and worthy of at least a little respect.
If you want to continue to speculate, why not start a thread specifically for that purpose.
steezemcqueen
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But really people. Two guys died in a car accident. one of them was/is famous hence the bigger response to his death vs the other guy.
Speculate all you want about speed, recklessness, kitten juggling, crack smoking, or unicorns jumping in front of the car. I bet no one that is posting in this thread was actually there to see it.
RIP Paul Walker
"If one day speed kills me, do not cry. Because i was smiling."
bofa
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To be fair, they didn't confirm the other occupant's identity until sometime today. Initial reports only indicated Walker and another person.
It feels like people are stretching to highlight the negative here... and yeah on FB too.
Ol'Blue
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I was guessing something like this but Holy Hell, on a city street. I'm not to sure how many people have ever drove in that area but I can assure you thins. There is not a street in that valley I would ever even think about going that fast on EVER! I would like to know the exact measurement from the skid marks (if you know what I mean)
The thing I find ironic about this is, just a few miles away there is a short track to race on in the same city.
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zacattack20
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The 160 wasn't from the Paul walker accident. That was a different accident that he was referencing.
I figured I would bring something positive to this thread. I used to live in a small town in California called Hemet. There is a road there where they filmed one of the last scenes from the first Fast and the Furious. It was only about a minute from my house. The city closed the road down and told everyone that it was to film a movie about old classic car enthusiasts with a few no name actors. I think they just didn't want to attract a bunch of people and get in the way of the movie shoot. Near that road is a water tank where the scene started and they pulled the covers off of the cars before they robbed the semi truck. This scene was where they heisted a truck and Brian O'Conner drove his car under the trailer of the truck. You can see the water tank on the lower left side of the map. Domenigoni Parkway is the road where they filmed that scene.
All of this kind of brought back some memories from all of that and the hassle that they created by closing off the main road to get in and out of town. They closed the road down for a few days and I went to school about 30 minutes south of Hemet.
I used to ride my mountain bike all over that mountain, go shooting with my dad and hike. My dad used to own a topographic mapping company and he mapped that whole mountain before they built the reservoir too. I used to live in the housing area across the street from the high school in the map.
I know, cool story... I figured I would share something positive about this whole thing to show that I am not a cold hearted soul. This whole ordeal brought back some good memories.
All of this kind of brought back some memories from all of that and the hassle that they created by closing off the main road to get in and out of town. They closed the road down for a few days and I went to school about 30 minutes south of Hemet.
I used to ride my mountain bike all over that mountain, go shooting with my dad and hike. My dad used to own a topographic mapping company and he mapped that whole mountain before they built the reservoir too. I used to live in the housing area across the street from the high school in the map.
I know, cool story... I figured I would share something positive about this whole thing to show that I am not a cold hearted soul. This whole ordeal brought back some good memories.
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LINY4Runner
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I'm absolutely appalled to be a member of the same forum as a few of you guys right now, and embarrassed to be a human being seeing how you guys act.
I'm sick of the keyboard warriors trolling the off topic forum to start fights in every thread that pops up. You people make me sick. I'm so glad I don't know any of you in real life.
Yes, there is a major outcry over this because Paul was a film star in the biggest car movie legacy to ever grace the silver screen. But what you guys might not know is that he's constantly involved in charity work and fund raisers, which is what this reportedly was. He's a genuinely nice, down to earth guy and a MAJOR gearhead. Don't know much about Roger but the more I hear about him, the more I'm convinced he's not too different.
I honestly cannot believe I'm reading these armchair quarterback comments and "expert" analysis stemming from an accident you saw once. If you weren't there, you don't know.
Let the guy rest in peace...
I'm sick of the keyboard warriors trolling the off topic forum to start fights in every thread that pops up. You people make me sick. I'm so glad I don't know any of you in real life.
Yes, there is a major outcry over this because Paul was a film star in the biggest car movie legacy to ever grace the silver screen. But what you guys might not know is that he's constantly involved in charity work and fund raisers, which is what this reportedly was. He's a genuinely nice, down to earth guy and a MAJOR gearhead. Don't know much about Roger but the more I hear about him, the more I'm convinced he's not too different.
I honestly cannot believe I'm reading these armchair quarterback comments and "expert" analysis stemming from an accident you saw once. If you weren't there, you don't know.
Let the guy rest in peace...
RunninInGA
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I'm reading reports of mechanical failure in the car prior to this event. It was in the shop for steering system repairs supposedly. Reports of steering fluid on the roadway prior to the skid marks are coming out today.
Doesn't look as cut / dry as some people here suggested early on....:director:
Doesn't look as cut / dry as some people here suggested early on....:director:
JayceeP
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I read a CNN article about the accident that contained a statement from a woman who worked in jewellery store in Santa Barbara, CA. She mentioned a young solider was looking at wedding rings with his fiancee and they wanted to buy something just before he got re-deployed to Iraq. They were looking at a $10,000 ring they clearly could not afford (the lady mentioned the serviceman seemed unfamiliar with ring prices). Anyway, as the story goes, Paul Walker happened to be in the store at that same time and noticed the couple. Before leaving, he got the manager and told her to put the $10,000 ring on his bill, gave his billing info, and left. The couple apparently didn't even know who he was, but his actions clearly told them.
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There may have been a steering failure but that still doesn't add up. They were in a high performance sports car. Those cars have such good braking capabilities that even it the steering wheel fell off, they can hit the brakes and at 45 mph that car can stop extremely fast. Now there were skid marks so that shows that the car did in fact slow down a considerable amount. Then the car hit some poles and a tree before the front end was smashed in and the car caught on fire. With or without a steering failure, you don't get long skid marks and a smashed in front end from a Saturday cruise at 45 mph which was the posted speed limit.
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LINY4Runner
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Who is this guy?
RunninInGA
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It's easier to sh1t on someone else's.
