rear shocks and u-joint

kolelt

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Currently I'm running 5100 bilstein aka long travel. Which are fj cruiser shocks.

How ever I noticed fox shocks for decent price. Which I assume are probably better ride and quality.


These are under 96-02 4runner
https://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/mobile/Fox-20-Rear-96-02-4Runner-shocks_p_1187.html

Here are the fj cruiser
https://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/mobile/Fox-20-Rear-FJ4Runner-shocks_p_1188.html

Reason why I'm showing fj cruiser fox shocks is because the bilstein 5100 fj cruiser bolt directly to our 4runner. Aka what toytec calls Kong travel shocks. I asume that the fj cruiser version are probably longer then the just 4runner version. I'm running superflex. And wondering which version would be best match.

Upfront I have tundra 5100/eibachs. And I must say, it's bouncy and in no way smooth. I don't have any weight upfront. What can I do to make my ride softer.

Also about u-joints, I want to replace all 4 u-joints, I have drive shafts of a manual 4runner for my manual swap. I went to AutoZone and the guy showed me the best GOLD version of the u-joint. And it had no zerks. But the one bellow that, the medium one had zerks. Which u-joints should I get and should I get with zerks or no ? The one without zerks had lifetime warranty. I'd buy oem but it's about 40-60$ a u-joint.
 
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Currently I'm running 5100 bilstein aka long travel. Which are fj cruiser shocks.

How ever I noticed fox shocks for decent price. Which I assume are probably better ride and quality.


These are under 96-02 4runner
https://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/mobile/Fox-20-Rear-96-02-4Runner-shocks_p_1187.html

Here are the fj cruiser
https://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/mobile/Fox-20-Rear-FJ4Runner-shocks_p_1188.html

Reason why I'm showing fj cruiser fox shocks is because the bilstein 5100 fj cruiser bolt directly to our 4runner. Aka what toytec calls Kong travel shocks. I asume that the fj cruiser version are probably longer then the just 4runner version. I'm running superflex. And wondering which version would be best match.

Upfront I have tundra 5100/eibachs. And I must say, it's bouncy and in no way smooth. I don't have any weight upfront. What can I do to make my ride softer.

Also about u-joints, I want to replace all 4 u-joints, I have drive shafts of a manual 4runner for my manual swap. I went to AutoZone and the guy showed me the best GOLD version of the u-joint. And it had no zerks. But the one bellow that, the medium one had zerks. Which u-joints should I get and should I get with zerks or no ? The one without zerks had lifetime warranty. I'd buy oem but it's about 40-60$ a u-joint.

I dont know about the shocks but any auto parts store u joints are junk and toyota dont make oem u joints to replace in our trucks. Either way your not getting oem.
 
I went with Moog super strength u joints, mainly because I had a really bad vibration, they were available locally, and I needed it to drive out of town. Figured I can go OEM if this one fails. I did notice OEM has the grease jerk in the middle so it is protected from from rocks etc.
 
I ordered this one after researching. Matsuba Stock Replacement Toyota/Lexus Universal Joint (U-Joint)
I haven't installed it because my noises went away months ago (chirping noise after lift install). Seems a pretty solid OEM replacement to me. As far as a soft ride, I really don't mind the 5100 set up. A little stiff for normal street driving, but they're fine after a while. With a lifted rig I don't know how soft of a ride that you'll be able to achieve without adding weight.
 
What's your question on the shocks exactly? Are the fox shocks going to be better than the current 5100's you're running? If that's your question I would say no. They're both a 2" diameter shock body. IMO it would be a waste of your time and money to switch from the Bilsteins to the Fox shocks. Not sure there would be any benefits really. Have you asked Toytec to give you extended and collapsed lengths of both the shocks to compare? You can find that info for the Bilstein 5100's on their online application guide. What's your end goal? Why do you want to change the rear shocks? You said you don't like the ride in the front, are you unhappy with the rear also?
 
Just find a good used drive shaft from a used truck. I installed the rear most U joint with a good NAPA branded product. After careful installation, I still could feel a free play at the U joint when I twist the joint by hand. This is not good.

I then went with a used drive shaft with OEM U joints. The donor truck had 300 K miles! and absolutely no free play in any one of its U joints. Which means if you grease the U joints frequently they can last may be half a million miles! TOYOTA parts and their craftsmanship cannot be replaced in anyway.
 
What's your question on the shocks exactly? Are the fox shocks going to be better than the current 5100's you're running? If that's your question I would say no. They're both a 2" diameter shock body. IMO it would be a waste of your time and money to switch from the Bilsteins to the Fox shocks. Not sure there would be any benefits really. Have you asked Toytec to give you extended and collapsed lengths of both the shocks to compare? You can find that info for the Bilstein 5100's on their online application guide. What's your end goal? Why do you want to change the rear shocks? You said you don't like the ride in the front, are you unhappy with the rear also?

I'd say I'm more unhappy with the front. It's little rough and bouncy. Can this be because I have no weight upfront. And have eibachs coils ?
 
I'd say I'm more unhappy with the front. It's little rough and bouncy. Can this be because I have no weight upfront. And have eibachs coils ?
That shouldn't make a huge difference. It would likely ride better with a little more weight. What clip setting did you end up setting the spring perch on? What's your center of hub to fender measurement?
 
Tundra 5100/eibachs, 2perch from bottom. And toytec superfelx in back. Not sure right now the center hub yk fender measurement. Will measure tomorrow.
 
Tundra 5100/eibachs, 2perch from bottom. And toytec superfelx in back. Not sure right now the center hub yk fender measurement. Will measure tomorrow.
You can try adjusting them down to the lowest setting. You'll obviously lose lift height, but it should ride nicer. If you're worried about losing the lift height you can add one tp14 to each side to compensate. If you have no body lift and your center of hub to fender measurement is more than 23.5" I would lower it to the bottom clip setting.
 

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