Rear Suspension Help

[dms1]

I have an 99 4Runner with the OME 891 Springs and OME Nitro Sport Shock 60027 and the ride is to stiff for my liking, Id also like to get one more inch of lift in the rear if possible..

Before I had this setup I had OME 890 Springs with Bilstein Shocks (I don't have the model number of the shocks handy) and that setup was to soft, I was bottoming out often just driving around town with the moderate load I carry daily.

Since then Toytec has come out with SUPERFLEX Rear coils but they don't list the spring rates, they only list ride height with cargo weight.

Does anyone here use these springs and like them? Do they have a softer ride thaan the OME 891? Do you like the ride they provide?

Anyone had a bad experience with these springs?

You can see a video here of my 4Runner and how the suspension I currently have works.

Thanks



Dave S

99 4Runner

Suspension:
- Front:
- Sway Away 2.5" Coil Overs
- Sonoran Steel 1” diff drop
- Front sway bar removed

- Rear:
- OME 891 Coil Springs
- OME Nitro Sport Shock 60027
- HD Sonoran Steel lower control arms
- HD Sonoran Steel adjustable Panhard bar


Wheels and Tires:
Stock Toyota 16 inch wheels
BFG All Terrains 265-75-16

Drivetrain:
- Front:
- Wheeler’s Off-Road steering rack bushings
- New Toyota inner/outer tie rod ends and lower ball joints

Rear:
Stock, but I think it has a limited slip

Engine and Performance:
- Stock Engine
- Diehard Platinum Marine Battery
- Tru-Cool transmission cooler

Interior/Electrical:
- All Interior lights have been converted to LEDs
- LED Maglite – Mounted to D/S Door
- Weathertech floormats
- Fire Extinguisher mounted to Weather Tech Floor Mat
- SPOT locating beacon
- Garmin Montana GPS
- Scangauge II
- Ingel 45 Qt Fridge/Freezer

Armor / Protection / Recovery:
- ARB Front Bumper
- Smittybuilt 8,000 winch w/ Synthetic line
- Budbuilt front and belly skid plates
- Custom built Rock Sliders - In Progress

 

[eatmorechickenx]

Most of these questions have been answered in previous posts. That said, up until 2 days ago I was running 891s and just switched to the superflexes (which have been pretty thoroughly tested over the past 2 days). I am running these with Rough Country N2.0 shocks. With the same shocks, the superflexes are a much cushier ride, although the 891s werent very hard (I usually have about 100 lbs in the back). I switch more for height/flex then ride quality. The superflexes sit about 1/2 to 3/4 inch higher then the 891s. Its been said many times though that she shocks have more to do with the ride of the 891s then the spring rate does. OME shocks are known to ride very firm. You may still have a stiff ride with those shocks with the superflex coils and may like the ride of thm with a set of bilsteins. You may want to let the ride height you are trying to attain determine which way you go. Just my 2 cents.

 

[JayRolla]

The superflex coils are like LC coils. Get some 7 wraps with tokico shock. My rear feels like stock ride with that setup.

 

[KidVermicious]

There's no such thing as a stock limited slip in these trucks.

What are you carrying around in back that you consider a "moderate load"? I'm running 890s and nitrochargers and don't come anywhere near bottoming out even with several hundred pounds of tools and such in back.

I agree that the OME shocks are firm. They're great offroad, but certainly let you know you're in a truck when you're on pavement. If you're not wheeling, maybe you should look into a more pavement-oriented suspension.

 

[dms1]

I'm guessing my everyday load is around 200-250 lbs, Engle Fridge, Tools, recovery gear and some camping equipment. I am going to try to weigh these items over the next few days to get a better idea of the actual weight. And maybe even try to lighten the load.

When I go wheeling I am thinking my load could be around 300-400 lbs - again I am going to try to weigh everything to see where I am at, maybe I can keep some of my wifes glamping stuff home.

The original Bilstein shocks that came with the springs needed an adapter at the top which I didn't like, I will do so more research here to see what model Bilsteins others are using.

I think I am going to try the 890s again with the current OME shocks to see how that rides and then maybe try the Bilsteins I have with the 891s to see how that makes a difference, however I hate using those adapters.

I would still like to get the actual specifications of the Toytec Superflex shocks so I can compare them to the OME. it would be great if there specification fell right in between the OME 890 and 891s

 

[dms1]

Here is a pic of my 85 4Runner going up the same hill in the video I posted above, but from the bottom of the hill.

I am going to try different shocks with the OME 891s before I shell out additional money for new springs.

 

[Hepar]

Sorry, I have nothing to offer as far as help to your original question. I just want you to post pictures of your runner please.

 

[dms1]

You can see pics of both my 85 and 99 4Runners here

Just look thru the different Picasa Albums.

 

[dms1]

Here are some pics:

On the Rubicon, in between 1st and 2nd ARB bumpers - wife lost control and hit a big rock and it destroyed the first ARB bumper (I bought used and was already in an accident, I cut it up and bent it back and into shape, replaced a few panels here and there and welded it back up)

Lake Tahoe

Means Dry Lake - Hammers Area - This is with the first ARB bumper I restored\repaired

Another View

This is with the New ARB Bumper and how it is today

And the video I posted above was two months ago.

 

[dms1]

I forgot to add, the Bilstein shocks I originally had were Bilstein DE5-6252-H5 - Im not sure if that is what everyone else is using or not. will do more research tonight.