Received this quote from my local shop today. Seem reasonable?

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I didn't respond from my post since I didn't want to derail ECT_Gumby's thread. Looks like that happened anyway. How about we go back to helping him price his install and less about hypothetical price increases for the repair shops we don't own?

:thumb::thumb: It sounds like a fair price to me. A friend recently had an OME lift put on an LC80 and the shop charged him about $350 labor.
 
Just a quick thought - see if they'll drop those part prices. There was a heated discussion in here I see about parts at cost and mark up. The thing is, if they're equipped properly (relationship wise) the prices that we can get on the internet from Toytec are already marked up. Therefore them marking it up past that retail is further markup. In theory they should be making money on the parts even with our retail price, if they don't have that type of relationship they really need to make that investment to make the money. Using supplied parts really depends from shop to shop. The liability issue is there, though it doesn't cost them anything to put my parts on. Any "handling" should be in theory with the labor, not the parts price. Because the only handling they have to do is during the install. Anyway, I work for a service center at a dealership, we will install provided parts but will not warranty it.


Other than that, labor seems about on par, even good.
 
It's funny, Steve from SS went on some long yarn about rubbing ds's on gas tanks before I originally did my LC shocks/coils 3 years ago. Never had one issue in all the wheeling I did.

yeah my zerk sheared the first time i test flexed it out so you must keep your sway bars on or not flex all too much on the trail.
 
You're completely off base. When my wife takes her car in to Toyota to get work done, she gets an itemized bill with 1) the parts cost (which is the same price I can buy them for at the parts desk down the hell), 2) the labor, billed in hours, and 3) shop fees (motor oil, grease, whatever). Costs are disclosed as their actual costs. When I had my roof done, the roofing company billed me the parts cost, the labor charges we approved prior to hiring them, and a materials disposal fee, all itemized. And they included their receipts from the roofing supply and the dumpster company to show they weren't padding the bill.

I don't know what world you live in that you think it's normal or desireable for businesses to cheat their customers. Please tell us the name of your business so we all can know to never do business with you, thanks.

No offense, but the car business doesn't work like that. I only have 34 years invested, so I could still be wrong. I'm sorry I accidentally hijacked this thread with my complaint. The fact that so many of the contributors here are capable of doing their own repairs skews the perspective, but doesn't change the reality these shops are facing.

In my business, if I didn't make money on parts, we could never make it. Ideally we need to average around 20-25% gross profit on parts. So if I pay $400, I need to sell it for $500. I did that for 14 years and no one ever accused me of padding the bill. Its just the way it is.

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All,
Thank you for all the replies, even the ones that wandered in to left field.

Other than that, labor seems about on par, even good.

Yeah I have been calling around and their labor and alignment seems to be good compared to other shops. I really want to like these guys because they are locally owned and literally a mile from my house. I think I'm going to print out the quotes from the other shops and see if they will move on their prices a little, I think that's reasonable. I sent emails to all the local shops with this link and asked them to price it out: Complete OME suspension for 96-02 4Runner

Adjustable panhard bar (unless you want your truck to sit crooked after) - $90

I hadn't given any thought to a panhard bar. Seems like the forum is split on it's necessity.

Other thoughts:
I keep being asked if I want light or heavy duty. I have been sticking to light since I only plan on putting a brush guard on the front. Later on maybe one of those roof tent systems (my god I love that concept). Any different views welcome.

I'm wondering if I need wheel spacers since I'm putting 285/75/16's on my stock rims.

Do I need a new jack?!?

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Rtt sounds cool and they look cool. Problem is $$$ and top weight on these rigs is bad compared to low weight like skids. My girlfriend and I sleep fine in the rear of our 4runner. Don't know your situation though.
 
No offense, but the car business doesn't work like that. I only have 34 years invested, so I could still be wrong. I'm sorry I accidentally hijacked this thread with my complaint. The fact that so many of the contributors here are capable of doing their own repairs skews the perspective, but doesn't change the reality these shops are facing.

In my business, if I didn't make money on parts, we could never make it. Ideally we need to average around 20-25% gross profit on parts. So if I pay $400, I need to sell it for $500. I did that for 14 years and no one ever accused me of padding the bill. Its just the way it is.

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Bolding mine.

No offense, but the car businesses I do business with work exactly like that.

The shop that I work for, for instance, works exactly like that. We charge retail price for the parts we sell, and if we install them we charge an hourly labor rate plus a shop fee to cover grease and towels and whatnot.

The Toyota dealer down town works exactly like that. When I had them replace the alternator on my wife's truck because I was lazy, the cost for the part on my receipt was exactly the same as what I would have paid for it at the parts desk down the hall (I checked :D).

The independent shop down the street works exactly like that. When I had them replace the starter on an Explorer several years ago, I wasn't charged any more for the starter than I would have paid at NAPA - because that's what the shop did, they called up NAPA and NAPA sent them a starter on the afternoon truck.

I don't know what kinda businesses you guys are running. I don't know what your business model is. But if I came to any of you for, say, a new set of OME springs to get installed, and you wanted to charge me more for those springs than I would pay to have them shipped to me at retail prices from a retail outlet, I'd laugh and walk away. I ain't paying more for a set of springs because you called up ARB to order them instead of me. I'm paying you to install them. If you prefer to order them yourself that's fine and I don't blame you. But if you're going to charge over retail for them because you had to go to the effort of looking up a part number in a catalog and calling a supplier, be honest with your customer about it and itemize the charge accordingly.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread. You all are not getting my point (or don't want to), so whatever. Good luck with your respective businesses, and I mean that. Myself, I'll continue to patronize businesses that don't lie to me about how much a part cost them.
 
Rtt sounds cool and they look cool. Problem is $$$ and top weight on these rigs is bad compared to low weight like skids. My girlfriend and I sleep fine in the rear of our 4runner. Don't know your situation though.

What do you mean low weight like skids? Sorry if that's a silly question.

I have a speaker box and amp in the back of my 4runner. Plus, I'm thinking when my kid gets a little older the tree house effect of a RTT will be pretty fun for her when we head out to my friend's ranch in west Texas.
 
What do you mean low weight like skids? Sorry if that's a silly question.

I have a speaker box and amp in the back of my 4runner. Plus, I'm thinking when my kid gets a little older the tree house effect of a RTT will be pretty fun for her when we head out to my friend's ranch in west Texas.

Weight on your roof is bad For your center of gravity. Means you could flip your rig over easier. I was just saying the weight like heavy skids while not great for the 4R is better then a heavy RTT on the roof. Others might not agree with me on RTTS and I have never owned one. Just wanted to point out a few things before you make a decision. Best of luck on the lift and install :)
 
The RTT sounds like a good thing to have with you kid and the amp. Makes more room which these things need if it is more then two people.
 

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