Recovery Damage help

[richhassett]

Sooooo I decided to get stuck this last weekend and got yanked out. unfortunately being new to this whole thing...learned to use BOTH recovery points. Does anyone have any suggestions on repair? It is bent below the weld points so I assume I could get it chopped. My plan is to eventually get a bumper but will need these to be straight.

I uploaded better pics with lines showing where it should be and wehre it is at.

 

[Sungod]

BFH or jack it up on the bends with a bottle jack.

 

[CruzadoBlanco]

if its just the flimsy stock skid thats bent just pull it off and pound it flat and put it back on.

 

[richhassett]

if its just the flimsy stock skid thats bent just pull it off and pound it flat and put it back on.

I added some green lines to show where it should be. You can see how it connects to the other side with the recovery point being straight. Ill try to take some more pics at a better angle when i get the chance.

 

[CruzadoBlanco]

I added some green lines to show where it should be. You can see how it connects to the other side with the recovery point being straight. Ill try to take some more pics at a better angle when i get the chance.

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ok i can sorta see it but the angle is not great. it shouldnt be that big of and issue since the bumpers mount above that with the 4 bolts on both sides. and it looks like the skid plate mounts in the support are fine. my dads 2012 trail edition has similar damage to his passenger tow hook where he hit a rock ledge a little hard and bent the hook and tweaked the support a little. if you want you can use a floor jack on the tow hook and jack the truck up from there and straighten it a little.

 

[richhassett]

ok i can sorta see it but the angle is not great. it shouldnt be that big of and issue since the bumpers mount above that with the 4 bolts on both sides. and it looks like the skid plate mounts in the support are fine. my dads 2012 trail edition has similar damage to his passenger tow hook where he hit a rock ledge a little hard and bent the hook and tweaked the support a little. if you want you can use a floor jack on the tow hook and jack the truck up from there and straighten it a little.

Ok great Ill see about jacking it up at that point. I was not sure where the mount points would be for an aftermarket bumper so this helps a lot. Thanks for the input.

 

[inscarguy]

my suggestion is pay a body shop 3-4 hours (that's all it will take) to properly pull it back to where is needs to be and paint both sides as you can see its already rusting. it should not cost more than 200.00. god forbid it gets hit again in the same area now its compromised. you need to bring it back to where its supposed to be.

do it right the first time and not have to worry again.

just my 2cents.

 

[richhassett]

my suggestion is pay a body shop 3-4 hours (that's all it will take) to properly pull it back to where is needs to be and paint both sides as you can see its already rusting. it should not cost more than 200.00. god forbid it gets hit again in the same area now its compromised. you need to bring it back to where its supposed to be.

do it right the first time and not have to worry again.

just my 2cents.

Thank you. I will call a few shops and see what they can do for me. I would definitely like to get it done soon. Thank you for your help.

 

[CAN-03runner]

That looks like a big deal to me.

Was that from beinging pulled out from that loop? Was it with a winch or a strap? If strap was it kinetic strap or tow strap, running start or no running start?

Or did you land hard down on that corner, or were you being pulled into a rock by a winch into that corner while lodged on a rock etc...

You can get that entire cross member from Toyota. I know a guy in my local offroad club that has had that cross member replaced on an FJ Cruiser.

Many after market bumber will use the hole on the side there that is threaded.

 

[richhassett]

That looks like a big deal to me.

Was that from beinging pulled out from that loop? Was it with a winch or a strap? If strap was it kinetic strap or tow strap, running start or no running start?

Or did you land hard down on that corner, or were you being pulled into a rock by a winch into that corner while lodged on a rock etc...

You can get that entire cross member from Toyota. I know a guy in my local offroad club that has had that cross member replaced on an FJ Cruiser.

Many after market bumber will use the hole on the side there that is threaded.

It was a running start with a tow strap on the single loop being pulled out of sand. Basically high centered with all suspension completely extended.

 

[CAN-03runner]

Damn. Good thing that loop didn't rip off and go flying into anyones face.

Use a kinetic rope next time. A little pricy but they stretch and absorb some of the shock. Dig around the wheels, and maybe look into Maxtraxx.

I really think this story could have had a very sad sorry ending.

On the other hand could be good to know that it caves in rather than breaks off.

 

[Powder_Hound]

It was a running start with a tow strap on the single loop being pulled out of sand. Basically high centered with all suspension completely extended.

Sorry to see/here about your experience!!! Although, I'm hoping that proves to the doubters that the tow hooks on the front of our 4th gens are STRONG enough to be used as a recovery point! Just saying 'cause it bent the crap out of all the metal around it and the weld and loop held strong!!!

I would concur with getting it done right the first time, however, without replacing metal it will be weaker going forward. If your replacing your bumper with an aftermarket plate style "soonish" I would think getting it straightened out would be sufficient.

Best of luck!!!!

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Sorry to see/here about your experience!!! Although, I'm hoping that proves to the doubters that the tow hooks on the front of our 4th gens are STRONG enough to be used as a recovery point! Just saying 'cause it bent the crap out of all the metal around it and the weld and loop held strong!!!

I would concur with getting it done right the first time, however, without replacing metal it will be weaker going forward. If your replacing your bumper with an aftermarket plate style "soonish" I would think getting it straightened out would be sufficient.

Best of luck!!!!

Not entirely sure I would call them viable recovery points if it destroys the frame in the process...

 

[CruzadoBlanco]

Not entirely sure I would call them viable recovery points if it destroys the frame in the process...

im pretty sure its one of the reasons the 150 platform has the bolton braces that go from the diff crossmember to the core support. im kinda considering fabbing my own up to give it some more strength

 

[Powder_Hound]

Not entirely sure I would call them viable recovery points if it destroys the frame in the process...

lol...I suppose I should have used the language "emergency" recovery points. Although when you are high centered in the sand and try to get jerked out before digging or trying to raise the truck somethings bound to go south! Sadly in this case, it was the frame...

 

[kevinpt]

and this is why i have a front mount hitch

 

[richhassett]

and this is why i have a front mount hitch

Cool.

 

[kevinpt]

Cool.

would it be hard to weld in some new metal?

 

[richhassett]

would it be hard to weld in some new metal?

I don't have a welder unfortunately. Body shop estimated 230 for labor.. Found the front crossmember for 260. Pretty expensive for a lesson learned!

 

[richhassett]

lol...I suppose I should have used the language "emergency" recovery points. Although when you are high centered in the sand and try to get jerked out before digging or trying to raise the truck somethings bound to go south! Sadly in this case, it was the frame...

Yea we didn't have anything to jack it up. A hi lift would of done wonders. Did the best we could to dig it out but mud and sand mixed is brutal!