Replace lower control arm bushings, HELP!!!

[danthemanx07]

Nope, the came rotates as well, just no movement on the lca. The ones that don't want to move are aftermarket raybestos ones, the other side have new toyota ones. Had to replace all since the old ones had to be torched off, but toyota only had enough for one side and I was in a pinch.


Drop the driver's side what .5 less? as in have uneven caster?

Still puzzled as to how the cam is moving and not resulting in the movement of the lca. Either it is not contacting the metal pieces on either side which it looks like it should or the sleeve that forms part of the front cam is not a close match in size to the inner diameter of the thick metal sleeve that forms part of the bushing. The latter would allow the cams to turn and move the attached sleeve without actually making contact with the lca bushing.

Does that make any sense?

 

[Mike&Ike]

Still puzzled as to how the cam is moving and not resulting in the movement of the lca. Either it is not contacting the metal pieces on either side which it looks like it should or the sleeve that forms part of the front cam is not a close match in size to the inner diameter of the thick metal sleeve that forms part of the bushing. The latter would allow the cams to turn and move the attached sleeve without actually making contact with the lca bushing.

Does that make any sense?

What he is saying is that the cam is maxed out in adjustment and he can get no more out of it. If he is lifted he needs UCAs.

 

[05SVRACER]

What he is saying is that the cam is maxed out in adjustment and he can get no more out of it. If he is lifted he needs UCAs.

Not exactly...the front eccentric doesn't move the lca at all...before replacement of the lcas, when i first lifted the truck I had 1.6 positive caster If I remember correctly

 

[danthemanx07]

What he is saying is that the cam is maxed out in adjustment and he can get no more out of it. If he is lifted he needs UCAs.

Not exactly...the front eccentric doesn't move the lca at all...before replacement of the lcas, when i first lifted the truck I had 1.6 positive caster If I remember correctly

Yeah. No movement at all is what in understood. Mine is lifted as well with the same bushings and did not have this problem.

Any chance you could pull a cam from each side and compare the two? You may have already done this. If so disregard.

Also. Any chance you have a pull it yard close by to go pull some Toyota cam bolts?

 

[05SVRACER]

Still puzzled as to how the cam is moving and not resulting in the movement of the lca. Either it is not contacting the metal pieces on either side which it looks like it should or the sleeve that forms part of the front cam is not a close match in size to the inner diameter of the thick metal sleeve that forms part of the bushing. The latter would allow the cams to turn and move the attached sleeve without actually making contact with the lca bushing.

Does that make any sense?

It does make sense. I;ve already got new toyota lcas on the way. I could send them back, but at this point I'm wiling to try it just to make the issue go away, then see if I can recoup any of the money by selling my old ones. Doesn't hurt that I get employee pricing at Toyota. I just hope that the new ones with new toyota eccentrics will solve it. Ditching the OME sports too, they are unbelievable...can't imagine why OME went that route....the original nitrochargers were fantastic. I guess they got in bed with chiropractors, I'm damn sure going to need one after driving this thing with the sports

 

[05SVRACER]

Yeah. No movement at all is what in understood. Mine is lifted as well with the same bushings and did not have this problem.

Any chance you could pull a cam from each side and compare the two? You may have already done this. If so disregard.

Also. Any chance you have a pull it yard close by to go pull some Toyota cam bolts?

Haven't pulled them yet, but I will be sure to do so with pictures when I do. Pretty sure from racking my brain, with your help and a couple of Toyota MDT buddies that It's most likely from the raybestos eccentrics.

 

[danthemanx07]

Haven't pulled them yet, but I will be sure to do so with pictures when I do. Pretty sure from racking my brain, with your help and a couple of Toyota MDT buddies that It's most likely from the raybestos eccentrics.

That is what I am thinking. There is no sensible explanation otherwise.

 

[Banzai240]

Found out this weekend, while doing some cleanup to the '92 4Runner I just picked up for my son, that the lower bushings were shot.

Normally I'd opt for Urethane, but after realizing that the Energy Suspension bushings required the use of the old sleeves, etc., I think I'm going to opt for some new factory replacement bushings. I have my own press and already have the old bushings out. WAY too much work and hassle to install the Energy bushings, and inevitably they'll dry out and start squeaking.

The factory bushings lasted 250K... and it's not like the extra compliance of a rubber bushing is really going to be felt, when you have 31x10.50 of tire flexing all over the place.

WAS considering the Whiteline bushings, but they are pretty $$$, and the benefits just don't seem to outweigh the expense.

 

[kolelt]

Guys, if you buy new OEM LCA. Do they come with bushings ?

 

[JayRolla]

Guys, if you buy new OEM LCA. Do they come with bushings ?

Yes.

 

[A.Wilson013]

Guys, if you buy new OEM LCA. Do they come with bushings ?

They do indeed. Just did mine last week after ordering the parts (LCA's and 8 LBJ bolts) from Camelback.

 

[kolelt]

They do indeed. Just did mine last week after ordering the parts (LCA's and 8 LBJ bolts) from Camelback.

Nice ! I to am going to order new LCA and LBJ to freshen up my front end when I install my new lift kit.

Btw, are you still hearing the sqeek that we both discussed? For some reason I believe that it is my LBJ, but I don't see any grease leaking. Or maybe it's the LCA or simply my uniball.

When are you replacing your LCA? Can you update me and tell me if your noise went away ? It's so embarrassing lol. Everyone stares at me like I'm driving a tractor.

 

[JayRolla]

Nice ! I to am going to order new LCA and LBJ to freshen up my front end when I install my new lift kit.

Btw, are you still hearing the sqeek that we both discussed? For some reason I believe that it is my LBJ, but I don't see any grease leaking. Or maybe it's the LCA or simply my uniball.

When are you replacing your LCA? Can you update me and tell me if your noise went away ? It's so embarrassing lol. Everyone stares at me like I'm driving a tractor.

Does your front end squeak really bad when turning? This happens to my brother's 4th gen. It's the uniball UCA's. Every 4x4 trip hr has to lube them. Any mud or dust causes major speaks.

 

[A.Wilson013]

Nice ! I to am going to order new LCA and LBJ to freshen up my front end when I install my new lift kit.

Btw, are you still hearing the sqeek that we both discussed? For some reason I believe that it is my LBJ, but I don't see any grease leaking. Or maybe it's the LCA or simply my uniball.

When are you replacing your LCA? Can you update me and tell me if your noise went away ? It's so embarrassing lol. Everyone stares at me like I'm driving a tractor.

I installed them last week and the squeak is indeed gone.

Indeed, very embarrassing. My snooty neighbors looked at me like my vehicle was going to fall apart and somehow injure them every time I drove by.

Does your front end squeak really bad when turning? This happens to my brother's 4th gen. It's the uniball UCA's. Every 4x4 trip hr has to lube them. Any mud or dust causes major speaks.

I do the same, and the freaking squeak would NOT go away. I was POSITIVE it was my UCAs (I mean hell, I had JUST replaced the LCA bushings) so I took them completely off of the vehicle, cleaned ALL of the grease out of the bushings, regreased, and reinstalled. Made zero difference.



I did notice that I could FEEL the squeak kinda reverberating through the LCA when I had my buddy jump up and down on my bumper. Wish I would have done that before I took the UCAs off.

 

[kolelt]

Does your front end squeak really bad when turning? This happens to my brother's 4th gen. It's the uniball UCA's. Every 4x4 trip hr has to lube them. Any mud or dust causes major speaks.

Yea it's pretty bad i tried everything, grease in bushings, dry lube, wd40. Either it's my LCA or LBJ.
https://youtu.be/bNnY1Gg0owU
[MENTION=63487]A.Wilson013[/MENTION]

So no more sqeek you say? I notice that when I get out of the vehicle it makes a sqeek. So hopefully after I replace my LCA it will go away. Now do you have uniball LCA?

 

[A.Wilson013]

Yea it's pretty bad i tried everything, grease in bushings, dry lube, wd40. Either it's my LCA or LBJ.
https://youtu.be/bNnY1Gg0owU

[MENTION=63487]A.Wilson013[/MENTION]

So no more sqeek you say? I notice that when I get out of the vehicle it makes a sqeek. So hopefully after I replace my LCA it will go away. Now do you have uniball LCA?

I have brand new factory LCAs. No uniballs and no squeaks.

 

[frodiesel]

Uniball isnt that bad. Makes for a less congested saddle whilst biking.

I hear the squeak everytime i hit the bump at the end my parents driveway. Sometimes i hear a noise when i egress the vehicle. Hoping new oem lower/upper control arm bushings is the fix.

 

[frodiesel]

Anyone have the part numbers for the lower eccentrics or cam sleeves? Mine are frozen bad, headed to the torch blade store for more sawsall blades.

 

[stir_fry_boy]

Anyone have the part numbers for the lower eccentrics or cam sleeves? Mine are frozen bad, headed to the torch blade store for more sawsall blades.

What vehicle?

 

[frodiesel]

99 4runner, ordered a set from the local dealer.
Got the SOB out after much sawzall persuasion.

Only the front was stuck, rear cam appears reusable. Need to press in bushings and then do the upper. One side at a time but it will be 100% new oem front end rebuild.

293$ labor for a wheel bearing, upper ball joint, and bolt extraction, new cv, already had new lbj, itre, otre. So over it.