Resale value-GX vs Limited 4R

devildog92

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Good afternoon everyone,

Well, the Devil got to me today...you may have seen previous posts that I have a new Limited on order, however the dealership can't tell me if Toyota has approved it, build date, inception date of build, nothing. In part of my frustration, I went down to Lexus and drove a '17 GX460. Plain and simple. it is an EXCELLENT ride. I walked away quite impressed with it actually. The fit and finish, quiet cabin, ride quality, smooth tranny and engine just lit me on fire. This is not to say that a Limited didn't impress me, quite to the contrary, but I didn't expect to walk away from Lexus with a quandary like I'm in now.

Now, I know there are many on this board that just hate the GX due to the lack of back window rolling down and the swing door, however the door didn't get under my skin as much as not having that blasted window to go down. I can live with the back door, the window...just not sure.

In order to be completely informed, I built a '17 GX online and a base GX, with JUST NAV and no other options, came out to be about $54k before negotiating. My Limited I have on order, that again, noone can tell me a thing about, will run a sticker of approx $46k without neg. $8k is a great dealt of money, roughly another 18% more than the Limited. You get a great deal of quality with the Lexus, but can I justify 8K for basically a V8 and better customer service, no matter how smooth the GX is??? With the loan I'm approved for, I am looking at about $125/m more for the GX than the 4R. Normally I would not let ~$100 stop me from anything, but I need to consider resale value, too. I will be whipping about 30k miles a year on this ride, and with that many miles I need it to have ALOT of longevity. I COULD CARE LESS about mileage, I care for reliability and comfort.

With rumors going crazy that the GX will be hitting the chopping block soon, I have to consider it as a viable alternative, albeit an expensive one.

I realize this is a 4R forum, so ppl may have a bias in some circumstances, but anything in the area of data, or opinion for that matter, is welcome. We already have a '16 4R and love it, thus I am looking to stick with a tried and true model like this BOF SUV. I DO NOT want a crossover under any circumstance. I won't be taking it off-road much, but would like to have that option, thus the 4R and GX have my undivided attention.

Thanks in advance for the help and assistance.
 
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I realize this is a 4R forum, so ppl may have a bias in some circumstances, but anything in the area of data, or opinion for that matter, is welcome. We already have a '16 4R and love it, thus I am looking to stick with a tried and true model like this BOF SUV. I DO NOT want a crossover under any circumstance. I won't be taking it off-road much, but would like to have that option, thus the 4R and GX have my undivided attention.

Thanks in advance for the help and assistance.

curious what opinions you'll get if you crosspost here: Lexus GX470/460 - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum
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While the GX is probably the better vehicle for your intended use, it will retain drastically less value than the runner. Look at previous years/gens of the GX vs the equivalent years of T4Rs and you'll see, percentage wise, that the runners hold their value much better. The exact amount will vary by your location, obviously, but the 4runner has one of the highest residual values of any vehicle out there.
 
I would probably chose the GX based on the criteria that you'll be driving 30k annually and won't be taken it off road as much. Driving that much, I think you would appreciate the creature comfort that the GX will provide. Not to mentioned that you have a 16'4R already. As with the price, I think after the negotiation, it will be less then $8k difference.
 
I would probably chose the GX based on the criteria that you'll be driving 30k annually and won't be taken it off road as much. Driving that much, I think you would appreciate the creature comfort that the GX will provide. Not to mentioned that you have a 16'4R already. As with the price, I think after the negotiation, it will be less then $8k difference.

Thanks to everyone for the advice so far. I am quite pumped for being in this predicament, because no matter what way I choose to go, I win.

As previously stated, there is a great deal to be said about build quality when your hitting that many miles, that quickly. I do need the comfort, as the trips back and forth every week can be quite grueling for me. I have an Avalon now, but its a necessity to get more room than I have currently. I thought a full-size sedan would work when I bought it a year ago, but alas poor Yorick, I was mistaken. I don't tow, nor do I ever see myself towing anything, but that 4.6...OMG its just smooth as silk and ample torque. The tranny shifts in just the right spot. For $6-8K more, can I afford to NOT to go to the GX? Just don't know...I drive through CA a great deal on business, and have often told my wife (who drives the '16 4R) that I would LOVE to put all the windows down, including the back window (:biggrin1:), and travel up the coast along the ocean. The GX may have the comfort, but that breeze going through my hair is breathtaking LOL.

If I want to go off-road, I can always use my Land Cruiser...I'm contemplating a build of that ride anyway.
 
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Put me down for the GX negotiated 3500 below msrp which should be doable.

Holy Crap Batman, and to think the Lexus dealer I spoke with in-town only wants to do $1700 off...LOL. That changes the tune quite a bit. The Toyt dealer where the Limited is on order only does $2k off. What a bunch of Scrooges.
 
Moved to proper forum.
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Sorry, since this had content for both 4R and GX I was unsure where to put it, so I placed it in both forums. I deleted the other thread I had posted in the GX side of the forum for you.

Is there any way I can post this to the other side of the forum as well so I can get a better consensus and feel about what route to go? Maybe word it differently? I tried to send you a PM and the system would not allow it.

Thanks sir.

Devildog92
 
Sorry, since this had content for both 4R and GX I was unsure where to put it, so I placed it in both forums. I deleted the other thread I had posted in the GX side of the forum for you.

Is there any way I can post this to the other side of the forum as well so I can get a better consensus and feel about what route to go? Maybe word it differently? I tried to send you a PM and the system would not allow it.

Thanks sir.

Devildog92

1Engineer,

I saw my post moved from the 4Runner side to the GX side of the forum. How can I word it differently so I can put it on the 4Runner side so it would be acceptable? I really need input from these folks, and since the GX side gets alot less exposure thn the 4Runner side of the forum, and my post contained 4Runner content, I thought it'd be acceptable to you.

I had a second post in the GX forum on the same topic, and deleted it since you moved my post on the 4Runner side over to the forum. Thanks for the advice and help!
 
I'll second talking to Rohrich Lexus here in Pittsburgh. They're known nationwide for a reason. We bought an RX350 years ago and it's been the best dealership experience we've ever had. Better than BMW.

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I drove both back to back multiple times. Although I compared trail premium to GX. Kdss >>> xreas. What I didn't like was the GX weight. I already have an rx350 so the highway comfort was less important. The rx350 is better on the road than either will ever be. I wanted a camping utility vehicle that's a good daily driver. it was a tough choice. Resale and mpg were 2 other things that sway me to the 4runner.
 
I'd go Lexus, the service and care you will get at the dealer will be worth it. I have a 12yo Lexus I bought used, and I get free loaner cars every time I take it in. Doesn't matter what it's in for I get a loaner car. Toyota we have bought several new cars from, they were under warranty and never once had a loaner, even requested one and was told no... I even have a close family member who works for Toyota. Labor rates are only $10 more with Lexus, I'll take the nicer quality and customer service all day long. I don't care about resale as I don't plan on selling it so it's value is all in what I see.

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....but I need to consider resale value, too. I will be whipping about 30k miles a year on this ride, and with that many miles I need it to have ALOT of longevity. I COULD CARE LESS about mileage, I care for reliability and comfort.
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sounds like you have intentions of driving your new truck until it dies. certainly at 30k a year you're going to be out of warranty quickly, so why the obsession with resale? if the extra monthly cost is no big deal for you, then pick whichever puts a bigger smile on your face
 
I'd go Lexus, the service and care you will get at the dealer will be worth it. I have a 12yo Lexus I bought used, and I get free loaner cars every time I take it in. Doesn't matter what it's in for I get a loaner car. Toyota we have bought several new cars from, they were under warranty and never once had a loaner, even requested one and was told no... I even have a close family member who works for Toyota. Labor rates are only $10 more with Lexus, I'll take the nicer quality and customer service all day long. I don't care about resale as I don't plan on selling it so it's value is all in what I see.

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Agreed on this part. Lexus service is typically a lot better. And cheaper. An oil change at Lexus is $50. Toyota charges $70. WTF?

But... my lexus dealer caused $22,000 of damage to my wife's IS a few years ago, so not all is well in Lexus ville. At least not for me. They did a shit job of fixing it and I ended up selling it because Lexus could never sort out the electronic gremlins afterwords. The mechanics at my Lexus are not very good. They have no idea how to do even basic repairs beyond oil changes like fit interior panels properly. They can't even get the basic plug and play stuff done correctly.
 

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