Roof Rack & Tent Combo - Help Needed!!!

[BullRNR]

Baja Utility Flat here, no quick and secure way that I know of hooking this thing up yet but the bars are thick enough to hold the tent without issue. The supplied hardware on the Tepui is too long for a short socket and the space between the roof and the rack is too small for a ratchet and a long socket.:doh:

 

[Johncmng]

Do any of you put up the RRT by yourselves? Do you have a rig for that or do you get a bunch of friends to help?

 

[KNorm92]

Did you know there is a 25% off Group Buy on CVT tents right now.

It doesn't say on the CVT website...but I assume I could run a CVT RTT with my SSO rack right??

 

[fishing_4_boulders]

It doesn't say on the CVT website...but I assume I could run a CVT RTT with my SSO rack right??

I spoke with the inviduals in Oregon and they said that the bracket would fit the 3” crossbar on the SSO rack... I just ordered my rack so I can’t test it out but that’s what I was told

 

[cutty01]

Hopefully you haven't ordered your SSO rack. They just now announced 15% off and that they are building new accessories starting March.

 

[Cymon]

Do any of you put up the RRT by yourselves? Do you have a rig for that or do you get a bunch of friends to help?

My wife and I have done it by ourselves, but it is not easy, especially if all parties involved are under 6’ tall. 3 people is the way to go, we usually ask one of neighbors if they are around. Taking it off is easier. Our tent is heavy, about 175 lbs with everything removed (Mt. Rainier Extended Summit series). When it’s just my wife and I we take everything off even the cover. As I stated earlier in the thread I wouldn’t do it if it wasn’t for the Frontrunner quick release mounts.

 

[leftyguns21]

Do any of you put up the RRT by yourselves? Do you have a rig for that or do you get a bunch of friends to help?

i load/unload it myself. here is a video of how i do it

CVT Shasta on Gobi

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lockechrisj/35549538575/in/dateposted/

 

[KNorm92]

Hopefully you haven't ordered your SSO rack. They just now announced 15% off and that they are building new accessories starting March.

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cutty01[/MENTION] do you have a link to that announcement or where did you see that 15% off?? Literally ordered mine this afternoon at 4pm ET. They ran my card but I haven't seen any confirmation email yet.

I've heard nothing but great things about their company so I'd sure hope [MENTION=110183]SouthernSS[/MENTION] would honor that if that is true...it's been a few hours since I ordered it. I did hear about the new accessories though and can't wait to see what they have coming!

 

[cutty01]

[MENTION=128325]

cutty01[/MENTION] do you have a link to that announcement or where did you see that 15% off?? Literally ordered mine this afternoon at 4pm ET. They ran my card but I haven't seen any confirmation email yet.

I've heard nothing but great things about their company so I'd sure hope [MENTION=110183]SouthernSS[/MENTION] would honor that if that is true...it's been a few hours since I ordered it. I did hear about the new accessories though and can't wait to see what they have coming!

Starts next week http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...road-full-length-roof-rack-4.html#post2918584

 

[Off2Mtns]

Baja Utility Flat here, no quick and secure way that I know of hooking this thing up yet but the bars are thick enough to hold the tent without issue. The supplied hardware on the Tepui is too long for a short socket and the space between the roof and the rack is too small for a ratchet and a long socket.:doh:

Ratcheting wrench FTW. Absolutely love these since I got a set, reach for them more often than a ratchet now. I have Husky and HFT but GearWrench seems to have the most reasonably priced, all inclusive, well reviewed set.

 

[PAOOOO26]

Here is my full length Prinsu with a Yakima shyrise 2 person tent. I have had the rack a couple months now and absolutely love it. ( sorry about the crappy pic. Cell phone thru closed window)

How long did it take for you to get your Prinsu full rack after ordering?

 

[EffayBravo]

Baja Utility Flat here, no quick and secure way that I know of hooking this thing up yet but the bars are thick enough to hold the tent without issue. The supplied hardware on the Tepui is too long for a short socket and the space between the roof and the rack is too small for a ratchet and a long socket.:doh:

Ratcheting wrench :thumb:

 

[BullRNR]

Ah yes, should've clarified that's what I have been using. It just sucks when the nuts provided have nylon inserts and you have to line that ratcheting wrench up with the nut for the entire length of those bolts! That's some long hardware, x8!

 

[24poepoe]

How long did it take for you to get your Prinsu full rack after ordering?

I ordered mine back when the lead times were 6weeks. It took 5weeks . From all my reading the lead times have come way down on these racks.

 

[PAOOOO26]

I ordered mine back when the lead times were 6weeks. It took 5weeks . From all my reading the lead times have come way down on these racks.

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

 

[encryption]

Just be mindful of the weight of the Denali with Frontrunner. The max weight capacity of the Frontrunner is 660lbs static load and the Denali Summit is close to 250lbs with annex. I am at about 600lbs with the Rainier Summit Series and our family of 4 (Myself, wife 5 year old and 3 year old). Not saying it can’t be done but you might want to contact Frontrunner and CVT to make sure that the load capacities work out. This and other reasons are why I’m starting to look into trailer options for our tent.

I have been evaluating this since your response (given that I will be years away from getting an exepdition trailer to mount the tent on) and I ended up reaching out to Frontrunner to check how much beyond the stated weight-rating one could actually go and this is what they responded with

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I can not give you an overload rating, however the Front Runner Slimline II Rack Tray is designed to carry heavy loads and is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest out there. Our engineers have dialed in a safe load rating at 660lbs (300kg) but it has been known to carry more. Have you seen us load 1540 lbs of water on a Front Runner rack mounted to a Land Rover Discovery 4? Check out our YouTube channel.

This rack is so darn strong it can exceed the factory load rating of some vehicle’s roofs. Please contact your vehicle manufacturer to check your vehicle’s specific load ratings. And always load your Front Runner Rack with evenly dispersed weight and lots of common sense!

A good rule of thumb in the industry is your dynamic weight should be about 1/3 of your static weight limit (660lb).

Let us know if you have any other questions,

Alyssa

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Unless I am mistaken in how these ratings are assessed, I'm guessing you could easily load well over a 1000 lbs on the rack given that the roof is probably designed to hold the entire weight of the truck in the event of a rollover.

 

[Jetboy]

I have been evaluating this since your response (given that I will be years away from getting an exepdition trailer to mount the tent on) and I ended up reaching out to Frontrunner to check how much beyond the stated weight-rating one could actually go and this is what they responded with

QUOTE

I can not give you an overload rating, however the Front Runner Slimline II Rack Tray is designed to carry heavy loads and is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest out there. Our engineers have dialed in a safe load rating at 660lbs (300kg) but it has been known to carry more. Have you seen us load 1540 lbs of water on a Front Runner rack mounted to a Land Rover Discovery 4? Check out our YouTube channel.

This rack is so darn strong it can exceed the factory load rating of some vehicle’s roofs. Please contact your vehicle manufacturer to check your vehicle’s specific load ratings. And always load your Front Runner Rack with evenly dispersed weight and lots of common sense!

A good rule of thumb in the industry is your dynamic weight should be about 1/3 of your static weight limit (660lb).

Let us know if you have any other questions,

Alyssa

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Unless I am mistaken in how these ratings are assessed, I'm guessing you could easily load well over a 1000 lbs on the rack given that the roof is probably designed to hold the entire weight of the truck in the event of a rollover.

I think in your case you could probably add a second support ladder to the back side and take a big part of the load off the roof if you're worried about the weight on the vehicle.

1500lbs of water is kinda nuts to even think about driving anywhere with. Weight on roof = Most people I know take the tents off for the harder trails. I can't imagine trying to run even moderate trails with 1000+lbs up there.

Also - just FWIW, you don't need to spend $20k on a bling expedition trailer to get a nice trailer that does what you want. You can have just about any trailer shop build you a 4x8 trailer with a 3500lb axle and as them to set it up with the springs over the axle. For maybe $2000 out the door you should be able to have a trailer with an overhead rack built that has more ground clearance than your 4runner and could hold your tent and store all your other gear underneath. For a family - IMO it's a better option to put your roof rack money toward a trailer.

 

[encryption]

1500lbs of water is kinda nuts to even think about driving anywhere with. Weight on roof = Most people I know take the tents off for the harder trails. I can't imagine trying to run even moderate trails with 1000+lbs up there.

Well this was more for when we would be stationary / camp was setup and there would be 4 people in the RTT for the night, thereby exceeding the 660 lbs rating. Granted when driving, folks will be in the car so other than the roof rack + RTT + some aluboxes / front runner boxes with clothes and some gear there won't be anything else on the roof.

 

[Cymon]

I have been evaluating this since your response (given that I will be years away from getting an exepdition trailer to mount the tent on) and I ended up reaching out to Frontrunner to check how much beyond the stated weight-rating one could actually go and this is what they responded with

QUOTE

I can not give you an overload rating, however the Front Runner Slimline II Rack Tray is designed to carry heavy loads and is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest out there. Our engineers have dialed in a safe load rating at 660lbs (300kg) but it has been known to carry more. Have you seen us load 1540 lbs of water on a Front Runner rack mounted to a Land Rover Discovery 4? Check out our YouTube channel.

This rack is so darn strong it can exceed the factory load rating of some vehicle’s roofs. Please contact your vehicle manufacturer to check your vehicle’s specific load ratings. And always load your Front Runner Rack with evenly dispersed weight and lots of common sense!

A good rule of thumb in the industry is your dynamic weight should be about 1/3 of your static weight limit (660lb).

Let us know if you have any other questions,

Alyssa

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Unless I am mistaken in how these ratings are assessed, I'm guessing you could easily load well over a 1000 lbs on the rack given that the roof is probably designed to hold the entire weight of the truck in the event of a rollover.

Thanks for the heads-up. I have no doubt that the 660lbs is the CYA tested load and that it could hold more, I’ve had no issues with the current setup. The trailer as you mentioned is the better base camping setup. I also would hate to mount and dismount a tent any larger than the one we currently have as it is already a PITA with 2 people even with the quick release mounts. That’s why like you I’m eyeing switching to a trailer setup, so it can just be stored in my garage packed and we can just go at a moments notice.

:cheers:

 

[encryption]

Thanks for the heads-up. I have no doubt that the 660lbs is the CYA tested load and that it could hold more, I’ve had no issues with the current setup. The trailer as you mentioned is the better base camping setup. I also would hate to mount and dismount a tent any larger than the one we currently have as it is already a PITA with 2 people even with the quick release mounts. That’s why like you I’m eyeing switching to a trailer setup, so it can just be stored in my garage packed and we can just go at a moments notice.

:cheers:

My connundrum is turning out to be a head-scratcher, do I buy a $45K loaded out Patriot Camper ($28K if I go for the loaded Peanut) or do I just spend $3.5K for the RTT and get a Polaris General 1000 4 in order to go wheeling / discovering during the day and come back to the 4Runner / RTT for the night.

If I go the former route, I'll save on the RTT since the Patriot will come with one. If I go with the latter, the only option to load / unload the tent would be to mount a winch on the cieling in the garage and have it raise / lower the RTT when not camping. Still a PITA to bolt / unbolt it every time but a little easier than calling a whole bunch of friends to help every time and get flamed in the process.

Both options to me are desireable, I'm just having a hard time picking.