Rust bleeding through paint on rear hatch

I am just going to throw this out there because I have heard of similar before to what you are experiencing.

Google "paint damage from rail dust". Bet you dollars to donuts this is what is causing your problem. ;-)

Edit: Sorry wadle - I just saw your post where you said the same thing. We agree. :-)
Ha No worries. Although my first response to your screen name was Nein Nein Nein!!
Cheers sir.
 
Yeah, rust warranty is for Perforation of 10mm or greater.

I spent some hard elbow grease with the clay bar a few years ago to get this stuff off and keep things in decent shape so it's a bummer to see the rust on my liftgate. I remember having some spots at the bottom of my doors as well but haven't seen any rust issues there. I mean the hail damage I haven't done anything about yet kinda distracts from everything else anyway so oh well.

Honestly I had figured the pinstripes would be the worst damage on my paint job, ha!
 
..... I mean the hail damage I haven't done anything about yet kinda distracts from everything else anyway so oh well.....

Yeah, its a sad reality of living in Colorado (beautiful state that it is) that if your vehicle is outside in May/June/July it's almost a crap shoot when it comes to hail.

After reading what you posted I thought to myself "Ya know, I don't think I know anybody that has not had at least one car hailed on".

My old mans '60 Chevy sat outside its whole life and laughed at hail with those 16 gauge body panels, but these newer vehicles with about 8 gauge steal? Man, they dent if you look at them wrong.
 
Letter to Toyota.com
I have taken my 2013 4 runner to Superior Toyota in Erie Pa more than 6 times for rust on the rear lift gate. The color is blizzard pearl. The rust starts as orange specks then progresses to bubble. They have photographed it several times. I was told that the rust is due to external damage. There is more than one area that is rusting and a bubble in the paint on one spot that has not yet started to rust. I have also taken it to 2 non-Toyota body shops who both say that it does not look externally damaged and feel the lift gate was not properly cleaned before being painted. It is rusting from under the paint. I called the 800 Toyota number and was told they stand behind the dealer. I would like someone for upper management to address this complaint. I would like another look at the lift gate. I do not paint cars for a living but find it impossible to be from outside damage when the paint is bubbling from underneath. If a customer spends 50k on a vehicle I feel the toyota should stand behind their name and fix the defect. It is very frustrating and sad that I have spend hours on the phone, at the dealership, at outside body shops, and on the Internet researching and addressing this issue. I have attached pictures, one is of the furthest progressed spot, tone is an area that is starting, the last is still a bubble that has not started to rust.
Today I took it to another Toyota garage . When they put my vin number in I was told they wouldn't even look at it. Corporate has documented on file that it is external damage. Beyond sick over this, not sure what direction to go.
Let your insurance company handle it then since apparently external damage, if they disagree tell them you have a statement from the manufacturer that it is external damage. I've had road rash repaired multiple times through my comprehensive coverage and have never had an issue.

This thread has made me paranoid, I think I'm going to completely strip, clay bar, and wax mine while its still new
 
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Decided to start a preventative maintenance plan for this, I'm going to do an annual Iron-x treatment

Truck only has 2500 miles and there was a decent amount of contamination on the tailgate


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I noticed on 15 4Runner that the rear valance had rubbed the paint off my hatch. Sent pics to dealer and it is in the body shop getting fixed should get it back tomorrow. Toyota covered it under warranty. Pics below
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i'm having a little trouble figuring out where that is, do you mind backing up a little so we can keep an eye out
 
[MENTION=113833]e60ral[/MENTION] it is in the shop right now getting paint but it is the lower right and left edge of the rear lift gate garnish. The Handel with the Toyota symbols that is used to open and shut the lift gate. Hope that make sense.

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Did they have to repaint the whole tailgate to fix where the garnish rubbed thru the paint? I'm seeing the same thing on my 2016 Trail on one side. Rather not have the whole thing repainted if avoidable. Assuming Toyota will cover it when I take it in.
 

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bubbled paint and rust

i am a victim of this too. Realized the other while filling it up. i have several on the back hatch. All are bubbling from under the paint. Made my inspection apt with the dealer on monday the 27th. Ill report back!
 
Unfortunately my 2017 TRDP cement is covered (not just the tailgate) with spots. I'm going to detail it this weekend and see where I get with it.
 
i am a victim of this too. Realized the other while filling it up. i have several on the back hatch. All are bubbling from under the paint. Made my inspection apt with the dealer on monday the 27th. Ill report back!

post a picture of this paint failure .

many different types of paint failures posted so many different reasons.

if the paint surface is smooth and shines perfectly but the paint has a bubble then this can be from 1,defective metal 2,contaminated metal surface,3 paint was not properly mixed/primer coat.

if the paint is stained and bubbles up this can be from iron dust, acid, chemicals etc..

iron dust does eat at the clear coat. the lift gate does collect lots of road crap.. some of the crap is iron dust from your brake pads.

so the lift gate does require frequent washing of the paint and applying a paint sealer/wax protection . using an acid cleaner [car wash] will do it . use car soap designed for paint finish avoid any household cleaners like dish soap and other cleaners that have acid.

I have inhaled much rail dust over 25 plus years cause I worked in it.
a properly cleaned paint surface and a wax coating protects from environment damage.

on the metal contamination that is a Toyota defect where the painters did not properly prep the metal or the metal itself is with defects ..

rust blisters back in the 1970's with GM was on 110% of all the vehicles produced .this was a sheet metal defect . metal rusted from within the sheet metal . it rusted inside and outside of the defective metal so rear fender had rust blister it would rust inside the trunk and on the outside of trunk.

on Toyota I have seen many red and black with the clear coat peeling off..
 
Micro Rust Spots onTailgate

Hey guys,

So I purchased a 2014 SR5 4Runner with 80k kms and its not even two weeks old from the dealership and I noticed the micro rusting on the tailgate. I'm going to contact the dealership and see what they say. It is peppered over the tail gate.

Any advice?
 

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^^ paint contamantion after painting is not a prep problem, it happens after painting

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Hey guys,

So I purchased a 2014 SR5 4Runner with 80k kms and its not even two weeks old from the dealership and I noticed the micro rusting on the tailgate. I'm going to contact the dealership and see what they say. It is peppered over the tail gate.

Any advice?
It's called rail dust. Requires an acid wash

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I agree a lot of it is metallic particles landing on paint. Mostly from plow trucks, they have iron wear bars, that and metallic brake particles. Trust me I deal with after a long winter as my 2016 is white.
However some of those rust spots look like more than that, some look like chips that went untreated, and after a few days on the salt covered roads they turned rust brown in color. Clean that rust off with whatever product you choose, but look close at it after and see if the paint is chipped.
 
I noticed on 15 4Runner that the rear valance had rubbed the paint off my hatch. Sent pics to dealer and it is in the body shop getting fixed should get it back tomorrow. Toyota covered it under warranty. Pics below
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Did they have to repaint the whole tailgate to fix where the garnish rubbed thru the paint? I'm seeing the same thing on my 2016 Trail on one side. Rather not have the whole thing repainted if avoidable. Assuming Toyota will cover it when I take it in.

Did Toyota paint the whole rear door? If so, does the new paint look off colored from the rest of the vehicle?

Does anyone know if new paint will look noticeably different from the rest of the vehicle? (Vehicle would be 12 months old) Thanks in advance!
 

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