Seeking New Tire Advice for NE

puckoach

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I am one of those guys that think there are a ton of great tires. But, only a few that really match well to a particular climate/area and type of primary uses.

I searched the threads, and didn't find a similar question, so here goes.

2000 LTD. stock w/102,000 mi. I live outside of Boston, and don't do off-roading.

Primary concern is with rain and wet traction, including highway in my area, and up into NH ski areas.

I do tow a jet ski on sometimes slick ramps. Plus, tow an enclosed 12' box trailed rated for 4k.

I do have to go thru snow on occassion. But, not deep snow. During the storm and in between plowings, so lets say 4 inchies or so. I have not had to go lower than 4W High, more than once or twice in 4 years.

Am not going for "look".

Look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thank you !
 
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I think the Firestone Destination is a great overall tire. Based on what you would be doing I think it would be a good fit for you.
 
We used the Yokohama Geolander AT-S on our 05 Tacoma and it was a very nice tire for a daily driver that saw inclement weather including snow. It isn't very aggressive for an all terrain tire and there wasn't a noticeable increase in tire noise.

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"The Geolandar A/T-S is Yokohama's On-/Off-Road All-Terrain tire developed for jeep, pickup truck and SUV drivers who want tires that combine a bold off-road attitude with a capable on-road aptitude. Geolandar A/T-S tires are designed to deliver long mileage and promote even wear while providing year-round traction, even in snow."

For reviews: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Geolandar+A/T-S
 
^ I've heard good things about those Yokos and also Michelin tires.

I would avoid BFG tires though. Especially the Rugged Trail (Fail) type tires they sell. There are people who love them, but in my experiences, they really suck in wet weather driving.
 
+1 on the geolandars! Have driven them on pretty much everything except deep mud, they are a seriously great tire with exceptional highway behaviour to boot
 
I picked up a set of Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10 tires about month ago. I got them due to the great reviews of them in rain, snow, mud, and dry pavement. They have long tread life as well! They have the little symbols on the sidewall, rain, snow, sun, and whatever the other is, mud maybe.

So far I really like them as well.
 
Not an off-road tire, but amazing lifespan and rain performance: Michelin LTX M/S2's. Ran pretty good in six inches of October snow last weekend (Yikes!)
 
We used the Yokohama Geolander AT-S on our 05 Tacoma and it was a very nice tire for a daily driver that saw inclement weather including snow. It isn't very aggressive for an all terrain tire and there wasn't a noticeable increase in tire noise.

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"The Geolandar A/T-S is Yokohama's On-/Off-Road All-Terrain tire developed for jeep, pickup truck and SUV drivers who want tires that combine a bold off-road attitude with a capable on-road aptitude. Geolandar A/T-S tires are designed to deliver long mileage and promote even wear while providing year-round traction, even in snow."

For reviews: Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S

These are what I have been running for the last couple of years. I have wheeled in Moab 4 times (a few hundred miles off road there), around Colorado and snow bashing in Colorado. They have done great. I don't think I have ever thought that they have held me back on a trail. On road they are quiet and ride great. I'm definitely happy with them. My next set may be Duratracks because they look meaner!
 
What do you guys think of the Kumho Road Venture AT KL78's ? Kumho Road Venture AT KL78

To me it looks like a great all around tire. I like the reviews for winter driving, which is something I appreciate driving around Reno/Tahoe/Bay Area(Over the pass).
 

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i personally dont think you are gonna find anything much better than the yokohama Geolandar A/T-S, Michelin LTX M/S2's, or the Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10, if you ask me id recomend the Michelins, just cause they are a higher mileage life tire and have superior road manners. you will not be disappointed with any of those tires though
 
Am not going for "look".

I think I might cry. Seriously, I'm a "match the tire to the application" guy, too, but if you read between the lines, most tire threads are about looks.

It doesn't sound like you have any need for an AT. In an all-season, I think it would be real hard to beat the Michelin Latitude Tour which rates an excellent in both dry and wet braking, and a very good for hydroplaning in the current Consumer Reports tire ratings. Among the top half of tires, wet braking and hydroplaning flip flop on each tire between excellent and very good so it depends how you weight the two relative to each other. The Nokian HT Sport Utility managed an excellent in all three categories but that caused a bit hit in snow traction and ice braking.

You can see where I'm going. There's a lot of objective information in there especially if you ignore CUs rankings and weight the categories yourself.
 
Th Michelin LTX M/S will give you the best ride and wear, and will perform great in the rain and snow. most bang for the buck. I had them on my S-10
4x4 and got well over 80,000 with them. I'm in Nh and we get quite a bit of snow...never a problem with the LTX.
 
but if you read between the lines, most tire threads are about looks.

Looks does have a major part of our decisions.
I thought long and hard about how sedate the look of the Yoko Geo AT/Ss are.I bought them anyway. I'm not at all sorry about my decision.

But... The Duratracks would look great on my rig!
 
Add me to the list of Yoko Geolander fans. They are affordable and do well in any condition you could encounter.

Having said that I recently was running a set of used Michelin LTX M/S. I could not believe how well they performed for being 5 years old.

I do believe you get what you pay for, Michelins are pricey but as others have stated they wear great and will last longer than most tires out there.
 
Get a 265/75/16

the larger sized tire does improve wet and snow performance over the OE 265/70/16s capabilities.

Another Hankook fan here.
 
FWIW, I had the Michelin LTX M/S tires in LT 265/75R16 C for approx. 70,000 miles on my 4Runner. They were great in snow and wet roads. They rode well, and were quiet. They were also fine in the moderate fourwheeling they were subjected to. Obviously they're not a mud tire, but anything short of that they were fine.

They only real complaint I had with them is that they would gradually lose balance every 3000 miles or so. Not a huge problem with free rotations and re-balancing from Discount Tire, but kind of annoying all the same.

The next set of tires were Toyo A/T's in the same size and load range. They had a more aggressive looking tread, but in almost 40,000 miles, they didn't seem to have any advantage over the LTX M/S tires IMO, but they were slightly louder rolling down the road.

I swapped out the Toyo A/T's last year, and have been running the Toyo HT's in LT 265/75R16 C. As far as I'm concerned, it is a better tire than the LTX M/S, or the Toyo A/T. It's just as quiet as the Michelin LTX M/S, and unlike the LTX M/S, haven't needed periodic re-balancing since they were installed.

My 4Runner is mainly a winter driver, and the occasional moderate fourwheeling vehicle. In the mountains of northern Utah, we get lots of snow every year. I haven't had any problems with traction in snow with the Toyo HT's. I do shift into 4wd when conditions dictate, but have never come even close to getting stuck. They also resist hydroplaning on wet roads extremely well.

I've seen the latest test in Consumer reports which rated the new Michelin LTX M/S2 very highly, while the Toyo HT is rated quite a bit lower.

In my experience with extensively driving two separate 3rd gen 4Runners equipped with those respective tires, I find their performance to be pretty close, with an edge to the Toyo's for ride considering a heavier duty LT vs P construction in this case, and better performance in Snow, and wet roads. I think because of starting with a deeper tread on these particular Toyo's. See below;

My Sister has the Michelin LTX M/S2 tires in P265/75R16 on her 4Runner. We've both had our tires about the same length of time, and miles. Despite her having the P load range tires, and me have a C load range LT tire, the vehicles ride about the same. Both sets of tires are inflated properly for the weight they are carrying, and respective tire construction.

Her P load range tires don't seem to do quite as well in Snow and on wet roads as my C load range LT tires. It's my theory that this is at least in part due to her tires having 12/32nds of tread when new, and my Toyo's starting with 16/32nds of tread.

Tread wear between the two sets of tires is as far as I can tell from measuring the respective tread depths, the same. Since the Toyo's started out with 4/32nds more tread depth than the LTX M/S2's, and appear to be wearing at the same rate, they should also last longer.

So for your intended use, the Toyo HT might be worth looking into. They are usually cheaper than the equivalent Michelin LTX M/S2's as well.

Here's a thread that convinced me to give them a try: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/performance-zone-tires-wheels-exhaust-superchargers-more/69101-toyo-265-70-17-open-country-h-ts-installed.html
 

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