Should I pull the trigger? 02 w/ 127k, 7.8k

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Hey guys, loooooooong time lurker here (5? years or so now) and I've finally graduated and have a real job....and found the 3rd gen ive been dreaming about for 10 years...

Details: 02 sport edition, 127,xxx on the dash. The dealer is asking $7,899.

Carfax shows an open recall (ball joint,not too worried), and nothing about a belt/water pump change.

Used 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD for Sale in Indianapolis IN 46227 Indy Auto Man

It's been in the rust belt its whole life, but from the photos there isn't visible rust.

Is it too pricey, priced right, I live about 2 hours away so would be making the trip this weekend.
 
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She's in great shape - Never heard of those tires but the tread looks good. I'd check under the dash mat and find a good mechanic in the area to do a pre-purchase inspection. Gives you a way to get her on a lift and check out the rust on the frame and hitch. Good luck!
 
For living in the rust belt it's whole life, I would shoot em an email, and ask for 33 pictures of every angle underneath [emoji6]
I'm glad to see it has a grill emblem though [emoji12]

Looks like a nice rig.

My personal opinion- on the value of a vehicle- is that the condition and previous care taken of the rig is much more important than milage.
I would rather have a rig that has 200k- with oil changes every 3-5k miles- than a rig with 100k miles- with oil changes every 15k.

Also, it's worth whatever you are willing to pay for it, and what's available in your area. If you've been looking for 10 years, and this really grabbed you by the junk- it might be worth that.

For me- I can get an IMMACULATE 99 with 130k miles, new tires, water pump and timing belt just done, pressed out/polished up, etc for $10k here in Oregon. I say that, because I ran across one when I was looking for my 4Runner.
Here's an example of one that looks to be in good shape, and I can guarantee not a spec of rust-
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/5603550818.html
Sport edition, but higher miles-
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/ctd/5600213507.html
This is the place that had the low mile 99 for $10k. They go through all their cars and do timing belts/water pumps/tires/etc. Polish them up, and charge a premium... But you get what you pay for.
http://www.mminvestmentcars.com/veh...v6-3-4l-suv-cdf2d58bac163f43ac7ff859f46c0048/

IMO, that rig you are looking at is about a $6500 rig- give or take, depending on in-person condition. That's just my opinion, and that's if there's no major rust.
 
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My personal opinion- on the value of a vehicle- is that the condition and previous care taken of the rig is much more important than milage.
I would rather have a rig that has 200k- with oil changes every 3-5k miles- than a rig with 100k miles- with oil changes every 15k.

Also, it's worth whatever you are willing to pay for it, and what's available in your area. If you've been looking for 10 years, and this really grabbed you by the junk- it might be worth that.

I've been seriously looking the past 6 months or so, and this is by far the cleanest looking one (also my desired year and trim) Price wise its a little above other ones that were somewhat comparable to this one, but those were also with private sellers versus a dealer.

I also think I can try to work them down on the price since its due for a belt/pump change, as far as im aware.
 
I looked seriously about 6 months like you. I could have found a cheaper one, but the one I got was in the best shape out of all of them. I wouldn't have done it differently.

If it's the one you've been wanting and it's in good shape, go for it. What's $1,000 in the long term if you plan on keeping it for 5+ years? Not much if you're happy with your purchase.


I went with mine because it was a two owner vehicle and was obviously well cared for.

Side note: congrats on graduating and getting a big boy job....get ready to get tree trunked by taxes....and don't expect a kiss.
 
If it has been a year round car, I would expect it to be horribly rusted underneath. The one I have was only in the salt for a few years early in its life and it surprises me how much rust there is on it. An underhood photo would give you some better clues if they won't shoot photos of the underside for you. The tires are junk, but that is pretty typical for any vehicle of this age. I was happy that the tires on mine were worn out when I bought it.
 
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This rig looks CLEAN for an Indianapolis vehicle. Probably hasn't been driven much, but I don't see any pictures of the underside, so I would be wary. Definitely check underneath.

The rest of it looks pristine - the original rugs look in good shape and the seats look good and clean Maybe the dealer did a good job polishing. Check for service records.

If you're looking for a solid 'Runner for keeps that you're serious about, I would argue that your $ budget is a little higher IF it is well taken care of.

I would be seriously tempted by this one if I was shopping.
 
For living in the rust belt it's whole life, I would shoot em an email, and ask for 33 pictures of every angle underneath [emoji6]
I'm glad to see it has a grill emblem though [emoji12]

Looks like a nice rig.

My personal opinion- on the value of a vehicle- is that the condition and previous care taken of the rig is much more important than milage.
I would rather have a rig that has 200k- with oil changes every 3-5k miles- than a rig with 100k miles- with oil changes every 15k.

Also, it's worth whatever you are willing to pay for it, and what's available in your area. If you've been looking for 10 years, and this really grabbed you by the junk- it might be worth that.

For me- I can get an IMMACULATE 99 with 130k miles, new tires, water pump and timing belt just done, pressed out/polished up, etc for $10k here in Oregon. I say that, because I ran across one when I was looking for my 4Runner.
Here's an example of one that looks to be in good shape, and I can guarantee not a spec of rust-
2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4 Door Wagon
Sport edition, but higher miles-
2002 Toyota 4Runner 4dr SR5 3.4L Auto 4WD Sport pkg.
This is the place that had the low mile 99 for $10k. They go through all their cars and do timing belts/water pumps/tires/etc. Polish them up, and charge a premium... But you get what you pay for.
Used 1999 Toyota 4Runner SPORT 4WD V6 3.4L for sale in PORTLAND, OR | M & M Investment Cars (DA2633)

IMO, that rig you are looking at is about a $6500 rig- give or take, depending on in-person condition. That's just my opinion, and that's if there's no major rust.

How did you find all these really nice 3rd gens? I can't do it now, but eventually I want to pick up a '99 sport or a '99-'00 manual Sport with 150k miles or less, in black. That's like my dream truck, the very last one. And the first one looks clean!! Some day...
 
Definitely need belly pics + visual inspection... Looks GREAT but need to see if exhaust system is OK, fluids condition, suspension, sway bars, steering rack for play/leaks, rear axle seal leak, etc... as you probably already know... Stuff adds up fast! I spent $5K on my 00 and another $5K on maintenance because there were no service records.
 
I just went through this myself...

Get the dealer to run a carfax, if there's nothing then ask for an inspection. They'll say that they inspected a safety inspection to sell it but those tests are pathetic. Contact a Toyota dealer that's close and have them take it there and offer to pay if out of your pocket.

If they're not willing to cooperate or even send you detailed pics of the under carriage then I say hold off and look elsewhere but since you live 2 hours away just drive there and check it out yourself.

It looks really clean, the price is good too. Here in CA that would go in a heart beat.
 
When I had to give up my 5th gen and I started looking, I was finding 3-5 new posted 4Runners a day on craigslist & Toyotahaulics Facebook Page. I finally brought my decision down to two different 4Runners...

First was a 2000 LIMITED 4Runner, 116k miles, Spacer Lift of 1.5", 20" wheels and tires, arb front bumper and rear custom bumper, timing belt done at 98k and decent maintence records. Carfax was okay, but it had been an a accident and that's what inspired the owner I purchased it from to do the custom tacoma bed versus rebuilding the back end. Kotrin 3rd Gen Build - 13.5k asking price

Second one I looked at was 1999 SR5 with super charger, 3" lift, 33" tires, no 7th injector kit or anything. 200k miles decent carfax, timing belt done at 100k and oil changes semi documented. Asking 12.5k.

I looked at both, both were automatic (which I have to have because of my medical condition). The non super charge one was good sounding, few minor things needing fixed. A few oil leaks by the real main seals, and the 'common' oil leaks around the engine. Everything worked for the most part minus the radio, few other minor things. The super charged one was peppy but pinging like a mother trucker. Neither one was wheeled hard off road (no scrapes, or damages underneath the underbody). The engine compartment was dirty, some oil leaks and I think needed the pulley nose re-done I was sure. I WANTED the super charger since you can't buy them anymore really but he wouldn't go below 12k and I couldn't bring myself to do it, 6k above KBB...and needed another 4k easily, closer to 6k. I went back to the other one, the 2000 and had my dad crawl around under neath it and do the 'second' check look/mechanic/etc.. Had my dad see what he would budge to, He offered him 11k cash, and he said nope, I can't do it for less than 11.5k....


...Needless to say (as you saw in my build thread) I purchased that one. I've since than put 6k miles on it since Novemeber and couldn't be happier with this purchase. I wish I had the super charger, but I love this one almost as much as my only child(don't tell him). Since purchasing the 2000, i've put new tires on it from the fifth gen, winch, toytec ultimate lift, custom truck bed canopy, stereo, transmission by-pass. So 2k, maybe 3k?? But happy none the less =)


Still nervous for my memorial week trip with the by-pass...but I have my dad going with me in his dodge so not worried =D

So bottom line, have a non objective mind also look at it(like a mechanic friend). If it's what YOUR wanting, than it comes down to what you feel its worth to YOU. I don't regret the 11.5k I spent on mine. I bought my previous 3rd gen with 190k'ish miles for 6k as a Manual. I could have gotten one with less cash out of pocket, but I love having a bed, unique and more!!!

Enjoy and Welcome(when you officially purchase it) to the Club!
 
Hey guys, loooooooong time lurker here (5? years or so now) and I've finally graduated and have a real job....and found the 3rd gen ive been dreaming about for 10 years...

Details: 02 sport edition, 127,xxx on the dash. The dealer is asking $7,899.

Carfax shows an open recall (ball joint,not too worried), and nothing about a belt/water pump change.

Used 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD for Sale in Indianapolis IN 46227 Indy Auto Man

It's been in the rust belt its whole life, but from the photos there isn't visible rust.

Is it too pricey, priced right, I live about 2 hours away so would be making the trip this weekend.


1st owner had it until about 114k. In that time it appears that it went about 7,000 miles between oil changes based on the four consecutive oil changes listed.

The vehicle averaged about 8,500 miles per year. If all three owners were reasonably similar in oil change frequency, this truck got an oil change about once a year.

Dealer maintenance appears non existent outside of its first oil change.

The lack of underside photos in addition to not one single engine photo — makes me think this truck might have some rust.

Also no sign of the timing belt being replaced. At 127k it's overdue — something to consider at least. Perhaps ask them to replace it as part of the deal.

Sure looks nice though...aside from the dented front bumper.
 
Pics from the dealer of the underside. Thoughts?


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Where I live, we would call that heavy rusting. In the rust zone they would probably think it looks pretty good. I would start looking for a vehicle from a more southern state. My daughter who lives in Chicago is thinking she will look for her next vehicle in Georgia. She says she can fly to Atlanta for under $100.
 
With that amount of that Id steer clear.
That's a 4k truck with that amount of frames rust in my opinion.

Pick a major airport that is cheap to fly to in the south and look around those major cities. I live in South Louisiana and looked ever from Florida to Texas. Finally found one near Dallas and the 12 hour round trip drive was worth it.
 
Hey guys, loooooooong time lurker here (5? years or so now) and I've finally graduated and have a real job....and found the 3rd gen ive been dreaming about for 10 years...

Details: 02 sport edition, 127,xxx on the dash. The dealer is asking $7,899.

Carfax shows an open recall (ball joint,not too worried), and nothing about a belt/water pump change.

Used 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD for Sale in Indianapolis IN 46227 Indy Auto Man

It's been in the rust belt its whole life, but from the photos there isn't visible rust.

Is it too pricey, priced right, I live about 2 hours away so would be making the trip this weekend.

Don't underestimate the cost of ownership of a 15 year old 4Runner compared to a newer vehicle. You have to really want a 3rd gen to justify the cost.

Let's say you pay 8K for it. That's $166 per month for four years. Now add your typical BASIC upkeep.

My guess is you'll be into it for another $2000 in preventive/"old - age" maintenance such as bushings, tie rod ends, TB/WP, LBJ's, radiator etc. So now you're into it for 10K without mods which of course will follow shortly after the purchase. Wheels and tires, lift, stereo, bumper, etc...

You can get a lot of car for 10k. Again, you have to really want a 3rd gen.

Tough decision ahead of you. Don't be afraid to put pencil to paper and do the math. Good luck to you.
 

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