Should the Boom Mat Speaker Baffle be used for the door speakers?

[Vegas]

Hello speaker guros-

Trying to upgrade my door speakers I want to stay with kappas to match throughout the car. I was recommended to go with:Infinity 6529I 225W (Peak) 165mm Two-Way Speakers....but they are hard to find (in-stock) so think I am going to go with these: Infinity 629I 225W (Peak) Two-Way Speakers (Pair)- 6-1/2 x 6-3/4 -Inch (closet I could find) also putting these in front/rear/tailgate...

So my question is I plan on putting sound deading at the same time but should I also get this bafle??? I am nervous about the amount of water that comes in through window and could damage the speaker? Could protect it? Does it need protection? But some of the reviews say it muffles the sound? But it also looks like it puts the speaker in a baby box...
DEI 050330 Boom Mat 6.5" Round Speaker Baffle - Pack of 2 : Amazon.com : Automotive

Also going to try out this adapter for the front to see if it will work instead of having to make my own adapters... Thoughts? Should work?
Amazon.com: Scosche SAT69 4-Runner Speaker Adapter for 2003 Toyota: Car Electronics

Thanks!

 

[Go JayBee]

Others may chime in here and contradict me...
The enclosed baffle is probably not the best way to go as far as sound quality is concerned. You need somewhere for the back-wave to get out of the speaker (I know, technical jargon) othewrwise as you mentioned, it will sound muffled.

As for water getting on the speaker...yes, they will be exposed to moisture, but they are made from materials that can tolerate it. The cones are usually mylar and the surrounds are a more solid rubber, unlike indoor speakers with paper cones and foam surrounds. If you were using the factory speakers as a base, they already have an eyebrow built into them that would reduce direct dripping of water.

The adapters you have mentioned, should reduce the amount of exposure just because the speaker will not be protruding into the door cavity as much. I suppose if you were creative, a milk jug could be cut and placed as sort of a "shed roof" above the speakers.

 

[Vegas]

Others may chime in here and contradict me...
The enclosed baffle is probably not the best way to go as far as sound quality is concerned. You need somewhere for the back-wave to get out of the speaker (I know, technical jargon) othewrwise as you mentioned, it will sound muffled.

As for water getting on the speaker...yes, they will be exposed to moisture, but they are made from materials that can tolerate it. The cones are usually mylar and the surrounds are a more solid rubber, unlike indoor speakers with paper cones and foam surrounds. If you were using the factory speakers as a base, they already have an eyebrow built into them that would reduce direct dripping of water.

The adapters you have mentioned, should reduce the amount of exposure just because the speaker will not be protruding into the door cavity as much. I suppose if you were creative, a milk jug could be cut and placed as sort of a "shed roof" above the speakers.

Hey Gojaybee-
Thanks for your input... To be honest until you posted those great pics of your install I really never thought about that much water getting inside the door frame.

I wasn't able to find the kappa 6529i (out of stock) so went with 629i think the only difference is the Top-Mount Depth 2-5/16" vs 2-3/8" that I could tell anyways.


Not looking to have Grants set-up(I wish I had it though!!!)


I apreactice all your continued help!

 

[GrantK]

I'm using them but with modifications. First I cut them off so they're just a little deeper than the speakers and then cut off the bottom half just behind the speaker. What I'm left with is a cushion between the speaker and door and a drip guard/umbrella for the speaker inside the door.

 

[Go JayBee]

I'm using them but with modifications. First I cut them off so they're just a little deeper than the speakers and then cut off the bottom half just behind the speaker. What I'm left with is a cushion between the speaker and door and a drip guard/umbrella for the speaker inside the door.

Very creative...

 

[Vegas]

I'm using them but with modifications. First I cut them off so they're just a little deeper than the speakers and then cut off the bottom half just behind the speaker. What I'm left with is a cushion between the speaker and door and a drip guard/umbrella for the speaker inside the door.

Hey grant I was hoping you would chime in.... Any chance you took any pics of how you cut them? Also dumb question but having that ledge/flap it doesn't vibrate and make noise?

Also been following your build if you have any other pics of your sound system install would be cool to see... And while your at it if you wanna post a sound clip that could be cool to... Just try not to let it kill your battery again :doh:

 

[GrantK]

Hey grant I was hoping you would chime in.... Any chance you took any pics of how you cut them? Also dumb question but having that ledge/flap it doesn't vibrate and make noise?

Also been following your build if you have any other pics of your sound system install would be cool to see... And while your at it if you wanna post a sound clip that could be cool to... Just try not to let it kill your battery again :doh:

So I don't hijack your thread, I'll post more details about my install in my dead battery thread, sorry I didn't think anyone would be interested and didn't take any pics.

To give more info on the Boom Mat, I've heard that they interfere with the sound, that's why I trimmed them into just moisture protection. I haven't heard any vibrations from anything and I don't think it's possible for them to vibrate based on what they're made of (dense foam rubber). This is based on listening to all sorts of music at lots of different volume levels.

 

[Vegas]

So I don't hijack your thread, I'll post more details about my install in my dead battery thread, sorry I didn't think anyone would be interested and didn't take any pics.

To give more info on the Boom Mat, I've heard that they interfere with the sound, that's why I trimmed them into just moisture protection. I haven't heard any vibrations from anything and I don't think it's possible for them to vibrate based on what they're made of (dense foam rubber). This is based on listening to all sorts of music at lots of different volume levels.

Like this? Or should I take off the bottom completely? (((I know nothing of audio install so any help is great)))

 

[GrantK]

I cut the entire bottom off on mine, the rest looks good.

 

[Vegas]

I cut the entire bottom off on mine, the rest looks good.

Thanks!

 

[Cloud909]

Hey, sorry to bump an old thread, but when you cut the back end of the baffle off, what if you went ahead and attached it to the inner door directly behind the speaker in order to help absorb the back wave? Would it work? Some of the backwave dampeners I have seen online often have grooves in them.

 

[Randyman...]

Did the same for my doors (modified baffles like those by removing most of the bottom/rear for use as a "speaker umbrella" as GrantK said - lol).

Then used blackhole blocks (forgot the exact brand/model - used like 5x 4"x4"x1" blocks) behind the 9" Morel Elate's in the front doors for additional enclosure (door cavity) damping. Added a few of those blocks to the rear doors, but the rear speakers generally stay faded off to preserve front stage imaging...