Ray Dunakin
Senior Member
Megaweapon -- Kings w/mild lift and upgraded springs:
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Show us your 5th Gen KDSS lifted!
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browndirtcowboy
Junior Member
2015 TE, KDSS
King Coilovers with 600lb coils, King Extended Travel Shocks, Dobinson's 677V Progressive rate coils, Dirt King UCA's w/ heim inners, Rokmen rear trailing and upper arms, Rokmen adjustable panhard. Nitto Ridge Grapplers 305/70-17 on SCS Ray10's with 1" BORA spacers.
I feel like I just rewrote my signature!hwell:
Most of the rest is in there. Oh and I would guess I'm at 3" in the front and rear. No lean last time I checked!
Thats a rig. Nice job on your selections.
alphabeast
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rochmpr
Senior Member
2014 Trail Edition
Front:
Rear:
SCS Stealth 6 Wheels
Toyo Open Country M/T's 285/75R17 (34.1")
So, why the removed sway bars? The KDSS system does not work well with a lot of wheel travel and lift. The lift burns up the down travel of the piston as it is designed for stock configuration. Also, the fixed side of the sway bar also limits down as well as up travel. For me and the type of wheeling I do, the removal of the sway bar has in fact made a difference. I noticed it on this one trail, I had ran both with and then without, and with the sway bars limiting travel, the truck did not feel stable. When I ran without, the truck felt more planted and went through the section much easier.
These are without.
Front:
- Icon Tubular UCA's
- Icon 2.5 Remote Resi Extended Travel Shocks
- Icon 700# Springs
- Total Chaos Spindle Gusset
- BMC
- KDSS Sway Bar Removed!
Rear:
- Metal Tech Upper & Lower Links
- Icon 2.5 Remote Resi Shocks
- Dobinsons C59-701V
- KDSS Sway Bar Removed
SCS Stealth 6 Wheels
Toyo Open Country M/T's 285/75R17 (34.1")
So, why the removed sway bars? The KDSS system does not work well with a lot of wheel travel and lift. The lift burns up the down travel of the piston as it is designed for stock configuration. Also, the fixed side of the sway bar also limits down as well as up travel. For me and the type of wheeling I do, the removal of the sway bar has in fact made a difference. I noticed it on this one trail, I had ran both with and then without, and with the sway bars limiting travel, the truck did not feel stable. When I ran without, the truck felt more planted and went through the section much easier.
These are without.
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Brandon H
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Awesome man!!! Ive been thinking about removing mine as well! Is it difficult? O you get an indicator light on the dash? I think if I do remove it, im going to go LT in the front
rochmpr
Senior Member
I have only removed the sway bars, the system is still intact but I have strapped the piston up in the compressed position. So, with this approach, the computer still thinks everything is there and no dash light. One day, I may remove the system completely, but I have other projects with a higher priority.
JustLearning
New member
Kdss experts... when installing a lift I have read to strap the piston in the kdss system. What about disconnecting the battery? Would this lack of power to the system keep the kdss ram from operating?
honda250xtitan
New member
its still pressurized, so it'll still want to expand. someone tell me i'm wrong though
Tx4Runner18
New member
That front bumper though!2015 TE, KDSS
King Coilovers with 600lb coils, King Extended Travel Shocks, Dobinson's 677V Progressive rate coils, Dirt King UCA's w/ heim inners, Rokmen rear trailing and upper arms, Rokmen adjustable panhard. Nitto Ridge Grapplers 305/70-17 on SCS Ray10's with 1" BORA spacers.
I feel like I just rewrote my signature!
Most of the rest is in there. Oh and I would guess I'm at 3" in the front and rear. No lean last time I checked!
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JustLearning
New member
Idk. I hope that others have thought of this but I haven't read anywhere that states one way or not. Thought it was worth asking.
coletrain09
New member
2011 Trail with KDSS
Toytec Boss Front (700#) and Rear (Icon Overland 3")
Light Racing UCA's
CBI Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Away
CBI Front Bumper
Warn M8000-S; Factor 55 fairlead; Factor 55 Flatlink
CBI Full Skids
Shrockworks sliders
Rubber:
- Summer: Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx LT285/70R17 E
- Winter: Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT2 LT285/70R17
ARB Drawers
Toytec Boss Front (700#) and Rear (Icon Overland 3")
Light Racing UCA's
CBI Rear Bumper with Dual Swing Away
CBI Front Bumper
Warn M8000-S; Factor 55 fairlead; Factor 55 Flatlink
CBI Full Skids
Shrockworks sliders
Rubber:
- Summer: Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx LT285/70R17 E
- Winter: Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT2 LT285/70R17
ARB Drawers
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Luxury Meat
New member
So this is part of the answer I have been looking for about lifting a KDSS 4R. When I went into local shops they said if I lift then I will loose KDSS, but I didn't understand. Now I understand.
The other part of my question is how does it feel when you are doing normal street driving? Does removing the sway bar do anything to the street driving?
Jetboy
New member
[MENTION=137195]honda250xtitan[/MENTION] is right. The system uses a pair of accumulators that will have about 500psi in them. Meaning anywhere from 500 to as low as maybe 100lbs of force depending on position of the cylinder will always be pushing on it to extend.
I actually don't strap mine up anymore. I just use a jack under it to compress it back when I want to put the sway bar back on after working on it.
TheWraith
New member
9509
This not a true statement. There's plenty of lifted rigs with kdss. Mine's on 5.5" and there's a runner in Colorado with a 6" bracket w/ kdss still operational.
This not a true statement. There's plenty of lifted rigs with kdss. Mine's on 5.5" and there's a runner in Colorado with a 6" bracket w/ kdss still operational.
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Norcal_bagger
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Luxury Meat
New member
Thanks. I think I'll be doing this in the garage then for a lot less.
honda250xtitan
New member
i looked at the ratchet strap and was like wait people actually use this? floor jack and a punch to align the bolt holes and you're golden. The rear i think i used a long clamp to help line it up though. idk. one day i did it one way, the other day another way. it was kinda a biotch, the track bar was hitting the bolt head on the sway bar after we threw the 1.5 lift springs in -_- lol
Duluth4Runner
New member
Bit of a newbie here to the 5th gens and the KDSS system. Picked up a 2010 Trail this weekend with KDSS. The guy I bought it from knew nothing about the lift (It was his son's truck). After checking it all out, it looks to have toytec front coils on billstein shocks, and toytec rear coils on toytec boss rear shocks. Is this lift compromising the use of the KDSS? I have tried to sort this out in the above comments but am still pretty confused about it. Any clarity would be beneficial! Thanks in advance.
Here's my runner:
Here's my runner:
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alext72888
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how is everyone's KDSS lean after the lift? Did one side need a small spacer to fix it?
