I wasn't on T4R when the original question was asked but I have the Shrockworks front bumper and I have a SmittyBuilt (98512) X2O Waterproof 12k lb. Winch installed. It's a tight fit and the I have the control box shoehorned off to the side of the bumper. I didn't mount it in the engine compartment, but will maybe do that later IDK. Yes, the winch is overkill, but it was on sale for less $ than the 10lb winch at the time so I bought it.