Shrockworks Modular Rear Bumper/Tire Carrier

[IceNomad]

This is worthless, besides looking "cool". It dos not address the lowest part of the bumper, directly behind the rear tire since it leaves the stock bumper in place.

1. If you go over a large rock, that is the first area that hits and the rock pushes the bumper out, pushing the bumper holders out of place. It is an easy fix with the hand to put it back in place.
2. If you go up or over a significant drop, your trailer hitch will hit and absorb the impact, so no added benefit there with the bumper. If it does hit, it pushes back into place easily. And how often do you rock crawl on obstacles that big?
3. We already have a rear tow hook, so again no benefit with shackle holders since I can place a shackle on the existing tow hook.
4. With the tire underneath, it's still not the lowest area and vulnerable.
5. How likely am I to carry extra gas? Not very considering I get 360 miles to a tank. Extra water goes inside or on the roof rack.

Missed the mark if you ask me.

 

[mtbnole]

This is worthless, besides looking "cool". It dos not address the lowest part of the bumper, directly behind the rear tire since it leaves the stock bumper in place.

1. If you go over a large rock, that is the first area that hits and the rock pushes the bumper out, pushing the bumper holders out of place. It is an easy fix with the hand to put it back in place.
2. If you go up or over a significant drop, your trailer hitch will hit and absorb the impact, so no added benefit there with the bumper. If it does hit, it pushes back into place easily. And how often do you rock crawl on obstacles that big?
3. We already have a rear tow hook, so again no benefit with shackle holders since I can place a shackle on the existing tow hook.
4. With the tire underneath, it's still not the lowest area and vulnerable.
5. How likely am I to carry extra gas? Not very considering I get 360 miles to a tank. Extra water goes inside or on the roof rack.

Missed the mark if you ask me.

Where does it leave the stock bumper in place????

The shackles on both sides of the bumper are easier to reach and use than one underneath the existing bumper, especially during a complicated extraction.

Having the tire mounted out back makes for easier access to your spare, while also protecting it and freeing up room for other items underneath (air compressor...).

You may not need extra gas, but in reality, 360 miles is not a lot, and if you are in 4wd, esp. 4wd lo, your mileage will drop. For those taking extended off road trips, extra gas is a necessity.

not trying to argue with you, but this may not be for you, but it could be for someone else.

 

[MeBe4running]

A few Questions...

Justin,

I think what you have so far is a great starting point. I love your guy’s work, it say’s quality through out.

Here’s my two cents on what I would like to see:

1). Tire to be mounted to the right

2) Jerry cans to be mounted to the left

3) At least an option for those who wish to put aftermarket lighting, such as
back up lights/tail lights. I'm not sure is you have to go through the DOT with your products being an off road aftermarket shop. But if the tire was mounted to the right they may be required, due to the lack of visibility of the factory lights.

4) Could you measure the departure angle of the bumper?

These guys are an Australian company (Kaymar) who make great bumpers too. Sadly there is no 4-runner like the 2010 in Australia therefore they don’t make a bumper for our model. Though I think they have it down as far as what I’m looking for in a bumper. Just some thoughts.

Thanks for your time!

MeBe4running

 

[Alt Freak]

The only reason I would get a rear bumper is to have a better departure angle then the stock rear bumper. To me that's the most important aspect. Not knocking what they have made, just voicing my opinion.

It does look nice

 

[libido]

I like the Kaymar design as well. Better departure angle is indeed desirable, but I suspect there are some limitations to accomplishing that and yet still making it a bolt-on replacement. I think that moving the spare tire to the rear is the most important consideration. Since I did my lift and increased my tire size, the spare for what I am now running will not fit in the standard underbody position. Even if it would, I wouldn't want it to be there since that is only going to subject the spare to damage. As I was saying before, you will not be able to make everybody happy; however you would probably make the most sales by keeping it modular with various configurations and options.

My $0.02

Cheers,
Greg

 

[TxBxSx]

Modular is the key. We already had a mod system that had ALOT of R&D put into it, so we just modified it slightly to work with this truck.

As far as aesthetics, I personally like it as a rear only. Its high and tight and follows the lines of the truck beautifully. But, if we were all into pure aesthetics, we wouldnt be wheelers, but probably building classics or street cars. With that being said, you guys can pic your poison as to what FUNCTIONS you want out of your rear bumper with the tire carrier system.

There are some interfereance issues when you start moving things around on the arm. If you push any one item to far toward the passenger side, it will hit the body or tail light before the arm swings open enough to allow the hatch to open. This is why the entire assembly is offset to the driver side slightly.

With as tight to the body as this thing is, it doesnt look like it is going to clear the Gobi ladder. And with what was metioned above, there isnt a whole lot we can do about that unfortunatly.

Thanks for all the feedback guys, keep it coming.

 

[MeBe4running]

Modular is the key. We already had a mod system that had ALOT of R&D put into it, so we just modified it slightly to work with this truck.

As far as aesthetics, I personally like it as a rear only. Its high and tight and follows the lines of the truck beautifully. But, if we were all into pure aesthetics, we wouldnt be wheelers, but probably building classics or street cars. With that being said, you guys can pic your poison as to what FUNCTIONS you want out of your rear bumper with the tire carrier system.

There are some interfereance issues when you start moving things around on the arm. If you push any one item to far toward the passenger side, it will hit the body or tail light before the arm swings open enough to allow the hatch to open. This is why the entire assembly is offset to the driver side slightly.

With as tight to the body as this thing is, it doesnt look like it is going to clear the Gobi ladder. And with what was metioned above, there isnt a whole lot we can do about that unfortunatly.

Thanks for all the feedback guys, keep it coming.

Understood. Would it be possible for you to measure the departure angle of this current "mock" bumper?

Cheers

 

[adio3x]

Hey Justin, is this possible? I think the bumper looks great, I personally don't care much for the jerry cans as I can mount them up on the rack.

Would you guys be able to move the tire carrier to where the teal rectangle is and cut down the other part where the green triangle is? Or maybe not even have that other half on the driver side? I don't really care what the swing out looks like, aslong as it gets the job done. Or do you think that would hit the gate?

I think if you could move it over a little bit and sacrifice the cans, the gobi would fit. I'll get you some dimensions of how far it sticks out.

I really like this bumper, I just want a swing out and keep my ladder.

 

[IceNomad]

Where does it leave the stock bumper in place????

The shackles on both sides of the bumper are easier to reach and use than one underneath the existing bumper, especially during a complicated extraction.

Having the tire mounted out back makes for easier access to your spare, while also protecting it and freeing up room for other items underneath (air compressor...).

You may not need extra gas, but in reality, 360 miles is not a lot, and if you are in 4wd, esp. 4wd lo, your mileage will drop. For those taking extended off road trips, extra gas is a necessity.

not trying to argue with you, but this may not be for you, but it could be for someone else.

If you look at the picture is post 23, you can see the white bumper still exists as the lowest part, as well as above the aftermarket bumper. If should have a slight gap like you have with a front bumper to account for flex.

Your points for the most part are unrealistic.
- How often have you had a "complicated" extraction where you have needed more than one pull point? And at that, when have you needed to leverage 2 pull points? Sure if you have a 6inch lift, tires and do a lot of rock crawling you can get in those situtations. To me, thats not the justifier in a rear bumper
- The air compressor fits under the hood. You could put a CO2 tank back there, which is still as vulnerble as the spare tire and more deadly than a spare tire it was to hit. You could put a water tank under there, but then you have the weight of water sloshing around when the tank is not topped off.
- I can't remember ever tearing my spare tire up underneath. Agree, a justifier if you run a large tire and need space for the spare. But then again, you could also use the roof.

I think budbuilts and BFLANs look 100x better since they look better, serve the purpose by providing both protection AND increasing the departure angle. CBI builds nice ones for the 3rd and 4th gens as well. They have expressed interest before in building one for the 5th gen, but they are in Idaho...

I forgot, the 6month wait time...:gun5:

 

[Okki]

I thought I'd post BFLAN's bumper here for comparison. While very nice, do remember it takes quite a bit of plastic cutting.

Seabee's Tire Carrier (on 4ShoreRunner's truck):

Edit: I found the swing gate tire carrier I was looking for. Seabee was the master of that project. Hopefully this gives Justin has an idea of how the ladder issue might be addressed. It looks like Seabee's design has enough clearance. I'm sure that credit will end up where credit is due.

Okki

 

[Alt Freak]

What's with all the fuss on the Gobi Ladder? Is it really that important?

 

[MeBe4running]

What's with all the fuss on the Gobi Ladder? Is it really that important?

Well If I told you.... I would have to kill you, mah ha ha! No seriously the Gobi ladder is great for those with after market roof racks. Accessing gear/-loading gear onto a roof rack, personally the ladder had proven a valuable asset to me. Now I will agree I only use it 6or7 times a month, though I still use it 6 or 7 times a month. It would be one of those things I would kick myself for if I removed it for a bumper.

The fuss is most people with the ladder have the roof rack and most people with rack are looking to use their truck for extended trips (overnighters if you will)(I think?). Meaning they looking for rear armor such as Shrockworks rear bumper for more protection over rough terrain and extended travel.

For me I’m personally going to get someone to custom build me a bumper. Then I get what I want and where I want it. (Like a spoilt child) Don’t get me wrong this product is great but there appealing to a mass market (sort of) not an individual basis/needs. Obviously they can only do so much before people get crazy, like me! Everybody is different and likes things to be in certain place for certain things for certain productivity.

Sorry I got a bit blah blah, blah…. SO there you go, roughly!

 

[Alt Freak]

Hahahaha yea I see your points. It looks kind've "dinky" (idk. Small and not really that strong) so I was wondering if people really do use it. When I finally get a runner I'm with you on getting it how I want it. However I see myself getting the SW front bumper!

 

[joneseyyy]

What's with all the fuss on the Gobi Ladder? Is it really that important?

Important when you're 5'6" like me and load camping gear/large loads up there fairly consistently. Also, even though the ladder doesn't look super beefy, it easily supports some of my friends who are 200+ pounds.

 

[phillyd2]

What's with all the fuss on the Gobi Ladder? Is it really that important?

Nope. Not at all. That's why so many of us got one. Because they suck and will never use it. :keyboard:

 

[Alt Freak]

Nope. Not at all. That's why so many of us got one. Because they suck and will never use it. :keyboard:

Just asking a question man. Chill out :cheers:

 

[Okki]

Gobi ladder measurements

Hi Justin,

Not sure what measurements you were all looking for, but here's a bunch.

Liftgate to outside ladder at lower bend: 2.5

Rear glass rubber molding to outside top bend in ladder: 8

Rear glass rubber molding (90 degree) straight out: 6

Corner driver side lamp to ladder: 12

Lift gate silver trim corner to inside vertical ladder: 3.5

let me know if you need anything else.

Okki

 

[TxBxSx]

Hi Justin,

Not sure what measurements you were all looking for, but here's a bunch.

Okki

OK, there is hope for use of the gobi ladder yet. From looking at these pics and making some measurements of my own...it looks like it could work. It would be CLOSE though, very close. Too close to say without trying it on our truck.

Unfortunatly we have run out of time. The owner of our fifth gen genuea pig will be picking up the truck tomorrow. On the upside, we have a good history with Gobi, and they have worked with us in the past. The even produced a ladder for the Xterra to work specificly with our Xterra tire carrier.

Thanks for the measurments Okki.

 

[Okki]

OK, there is hope for use of the gobi ladder yet. From looking at these pics and making some measurements of my own...it looks like it could work. It would be CLOSE though, very close. Too close to say without trying it on our truck.

Unfortunatly we have run out of time. The owner of our fifth gen genuea pig will be picking up the truck tomorrow. On the upside, we have a good history with Gobi, and they have worked with us in the past. The even produced a ladder for the Xterra to work specificly with our Xterra tire carrier.

Thanks for the measurments Okki.

No prob.. glad to help.

Okki

 

[mikey's2010SR5]

Any updates on this bumper? I noticed it is not listed on the website anymore (I swore it was there for a little bit). Is it getting a re-design?