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Shrockworks Step-Slider
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Bolt-on Drilled?
Hi All,
New forum user here (hence the reply vs new thread). Tried searching but was unsure if I could find the answer. If someone knows of a thread that discusses this, please feel free to just link.
I'm looking into step sliders for my 5th gen. I've found several threads that talk about the different options, including the one below (technically different forum).
My question: Do all bolt-on sliders require drilling? When I hear "bolt-on", I don't typically assume any drilling is required but I have read that some of the sliders (like Shrockworks) require drilling.
**Edit** I just came across another thread by C4 who do specify no drilling. So, perhaps the question should be which sliders don't require drilling but are still "bolt-on"?
Also looking into budbuilt, however I would preferably get them in within 6 weeks.
https://trail4runner.com/2017/11/25/5th-gen-4runner-rock-sliders/
Thanks in advance for any/all help!
Hi All,
New forum user here (hence the reply vs new thread). Tried searching but was unsure if I could find the answer. If someone knows of a thread that discusses this, please feel free to just link.
I'm looking into step sliders for my 5th gen. I've found several threads that talk about the different options, including the one below (technically different forum).
My question: Do all bolt-on sliders require drilling? When I hear "bolt-on", I don't typically assume any drilling is required but I have read that some of the sliders (like Shrockworks) require drilling.
**Edit** I just came across another thread by C4 who do specify no drilling. So, perhaps the question should be which sliders don't require drilling but are still "bolt-on"?
Also looking into budbuilt, however I would preferably get them in within 6 weeks.
https://trail4runner.com/2017/11/25/5th-gen-4runner-rock-sliders/
Thanks in advance for any/all help!
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AlexJet
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There are typically 2 types of sliders: weld-on (permanent installation) and bolt-on (removable installation). Due to the fact that sliders need to protect the vehicle and let it "slide"over obstacle sustaining full vehicle weight they need to be security fastened. For this purpose many require additional holes to be drilled into the frame, this is is no concern of frame strength.
I'd personally prefer bolt-on with as many attachments as possible.
I'd personally prefer bolt-on with as many attachments as possible.
Angelo
Member
Agreed with this. Just so you know, the C4 Slider instructions do specify that 2 additional holes should be drilled in the passenger transmission crossmember for support. However FWIW, I would guess that (and Caleb from C4 has echoed this to me on the phone) most people who run sliders DON'T drill the holes in the cross member to get that extra attachment. The 7-8 bolts in existing holes are plenty enough to mall crawl.
imp:4RunnerBoise
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I installed the Shrockworks dimpled tread plate sliders on my 2017 TRD Pro. I had to drill one hole on the passenger side for the install, it was no problem to do, the overall install was not difficult at all. I have not yet installed the two additional (optional) bolts which also required drilling but will do so.
MAST4R
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Shrockworks step sliders
After much back and forth, I chose the Shrock step sliders over Slee, RCI, RSG, and WKO.
I wanted true sliders though not necessarily Area BFE sliders and also true steps though not necessarily factory steps.
I chose Shrock due to reputation for strength, functionality, and quality of the finish. I don't want a DIY job on a new car. I am not great with paint.
Why sliders? I have never bought the must have sliders idea. These sliders lost me 3in of rocker clearance, from an excellent 17 to a good 14. So why did I do it? Three reasons: 1/key reason: My spotter is 12 yo, 2/My 7yo could use the step, 3/access to roof.
Results so far:
Strength: TBD? I have dragged the pax slider over nasty rocks on Backaway to Crown King. I do not think I would have touched the rocker panel had I not installed sliders. Paint damage is minimal considering the noise produced by the dragging. I expected a lot worse. On the flip side, I jacked the truck up at home at four spots under the sliders. The first three from the front worked great. As expected, the one furthest back and away from the second leg of the slider got pushed into the rocker panel. Now, when will I suffer a hard hit there as opposed to front or middle of slider? Probably never. But it is a weakness.
Step functionality: As helpfully pointed out by others, sliders ain't great when one is dressed for business...which is more often than not. So that's annoying but not a show stopper. My 7yo LOVES the step functionality so I am happy. My wife is largely indifferent. I love the sliders when I want to reach stuff in the roof basket.
Fit and finish. I am not losing any sleep over looks but I still want a vehicle that does not look like an unsuccessful elementary school project. I like the sliders' look and especially the high quality powdercoating. They do not look like an aftermarket part, which is a good thing in my book. I know others love the opposite effect, to each their own.
Verdict: TBD. I guess I will second guess the sliders until I mess up badly and thank Shrock for making them. I strongly recommend serious skid plates and upgraded rLCAs, but I am still not sold on sliders as an indispensable item unless you are driving trails in the upper half of the difficult group (using Charlie Wells' AZ, CA, CO, and UT guides).
After much back and forth, I chose the Shrock step sliders over Slee, RCI, RSG, and WKO.
I wanted true sliders though not necessarily Area BFE sliders and also true steps though not necessarily factory steps.
I chose Shrock due to reputation for strength, functionality, and quality of the finish. I don't want a DIY job on a new car. I am not great with paint.
Why sliders? I have never bought the must have sliders idea. These sliders lost me 3in of rocker clearance, from an excellent 17 to a good 14. So why did I do it? Three reasons: 1/key reason: My spotter is 12 yo, 2/My 7yo could use the step, 3/access to roof.
Results so far:
Strength: TBD? I have dragged the pax slider over nasty rocks on Backaway to Crown King. I do not think I would have touched the rocker panel had I not installed sliders. Paint damage is minimal considering the noise produced by the dragging. I expected a lot worse. On the flip side, I jacked the truck up at home at four spots under the sliders. The first three from the front worked great. As expected, the one furthest back and away from the second leg of the slider got pushed into the rocker panel. Now, when will I suffer a hard hit there as opposed to front or middle of slider? Probably never. But it is a weakness.
Step functionality: As helpfully pointed out by others, sliders ain't great when one is dressed for business...which is more often than not. So that's annoying but not a show stopper. My 7yo LOVES the step functionality so I am happy. My wife is largely indifferent. I love the sliders when I want to reach stuff in the roof basket.
Fit and finish. I am not losing any sleep over looks but I still want a vehicle that does not look like an unsuccessful elementary school project. I like the sliders' look and especially the high quality powdercoating. They do not look like an aftermarket part, which is a good thing in my book. I know others love the opposite effect, to each their own.
Verdict: TBD. I guess I will second guess the sliders until I mess up badly and thank Shrock for making them. I strongly recommend serious skid plates and upgraded rLCAs, but I am still not sold on sliders as an indispensable item unless you are driving trails in the upper half of the difficult group (using Charlie Wells' AZ, CA, CO, and UT guides).
Can I get by without completely removing the gas tank skid to mount the driver side slider?
Just drop the driver side bolts and strap bolt that holds the gas tank?
These things are a ***** to put on!!!
Hind sight being 20/20 I wouldn't have ordered these if I knew they were such a pita to install.
Tooks 2 days to get the passenger side on. Longer bolts are the key. The bolts they provide are too short.
Just drop the driver side bolts and strap bolt that holds the gas tank?
These things are a ***** to put on!!!
Hind sight being 20/20 I wouldn't have ordered these if I knew they were such a pita to install.
Tooks 2 days to get the passenger side on. Longer bolts are the key. The bolts they provide are too short.
jrandom
New member
You only have to loosen one tank strap and remove the bolt from the one that is going through the slider mount. One piece of advice make sure your tank is as close to empty as you are comfortable with, you will have to lift the tank in order to re-attach the strap.
For what its worth, generally speaking all of the bolt-ons are about the same to install, with a few exceptions.
Passenger side is the easiest.
It helps if you have a floor jack and wood blocks to support it with while you work it into place. Should paint your stick nuts too they rust like mad.
There are a few other posts around here with install tips.
For what its worth, generally speaking all of the bolt-ons are about the same to install, with a few exceptions.
Passenger side is the easiest.
It helps if you have a floor jack and wood blocks to support it with while you work it into place. Should paint your stick nuts too they rust like mad.
There are a few other posts around here with install tips.
57HotrodVW
New member
I've installed two sets of ShrockWorks sliders, by myself, and using the supplied hardware without issue.
I wrote this article a few weeks ago, and it has a bunch of pics and step by step instructions. Take a look. I hope it helps you finish your install!
ShrockWorks Rock Sliders Install and Overview - 5th Gen 4Runner
jrandom
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10 seconds with 80 grit
: You have to give it something to stick too. In reality, I don't think it is that big a deal. Mine were oily as hell too.Installed mine last night. They look good.
Installation - Took 2 hours total... which included a run to Home Depot to get longer bolts as the bolts provided make the job harder (messed with the 1" bolt for 15-20 Min and gave up... longer bolts took 2 minutes each to install).
Only had to take off 2 bolts from KDSS (not all of them as per instructions).
Didn't have to touch brake lines...
In general easy install.
Strength... these will be good enough for my 4Runner as it's not a rock crawler. BUT to be honest, I was a bit disappointed by the brackets. Only two small brackets with 3-4 3/8 bolts each? If I was to take it on any trail that I would take my JK, These sliders wouldn't last a day. IMO they will slide... but if you need to use a rock to pivot hard... I don't think they will last long.
After watching a few youtube vids last night... it appears other brands have more brackets and larger brackets so they may be a bit stronger. I think at least 3 brackets are needed (one in the center)...
Installation - Took 2 hours total... which included a run to Home Depot to get longer bolts as the bolts provided make the job harder (messed with the 1" bolt for 15-20 Min and gave up... longer bolts took 2 minutes each to install).
Only had to take off 2 bolts from KDSS (not all of them as per instructions).
Didn't have to touch brake lines...
In general easy install.
Strength... these will be good enough for my 4Runner as it's not a rock crawler. BUT to be honest, I was a bit disappointed by the brackets. Only two small brackets with 3-4 3/8 bolts each? If I was to take it on any trail that I would take my JK, These sliders wouldn't last a day. IMO they will slide... but if you need to use a rock to pivot hard... I don't think they will last long.
After watching a few youtube vids last night... it appears other brands have more brackets and larger brackets so they may be a bit stronger. I think at least 3 brackets are needed (one in the center)...
jrandom
New member
They flex more than say a bud built but the still land flush and distributed down the length of the rocker like they should. A vertical hit there is plenty there. I have had a couple of stiff hits, I also jack off of them, zero issues. Not saying it isn't possible, you're going to have to being going pretty fast to mess these/your rocker up, I would say they are more vulnerable at the very ends.
57HotrodVW
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You should only need to drill one hole.
Seen this article yet?
ShrockWorks Rock Sliders Install and Overview - 5th Gen 4Runner
CharlesNellis
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I love my shrokworks step sliders.
