Sirius/XM reception is pretty bad in my 2011 TE

glocke12

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In my 4th gen 4runner I had an aftermarket sirius "stilleto" reciever installed. It worked great and would get 100% reception rain or shine, or through 2-3 inches of snow on my roof.

The XM receiver in my 2011 4runner seems to fade in and out often, it seems like a feather passing over the antenae makes it fade out.

Anyone else having this issue? Is this something the dealer can fix?
 
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Every morning driving to work I have this 1/4 miles section of road where it just drops reception ever time. They are pretty weak it seems, lose reception in a bank drive through with a small cover over the top. Not sure if that is normal but overall it works pretty well in the open. 1st sat radio, not sure if it is normal or not.
 
I've taken two longish trips in the past month, both within the state of Oregon. I was pretty disappointed in the drop-outs of signal in both trips. As long as there was a clear view to the south I had no problems. When there was _any_ kind of blockage to the south I lost signal. My Magellen GPS never dropped out during these trips so I have to assume the XM satellite(s) are just too low in the southern sky for constant reception at this lattitude. It just so happens my free trial period ended at the end of the second trip so XM won't be seeing my subscription money.
 
I know my reception kinda sucked as well. Ive had Sirius units in the past and they all got much better reception then my 4Runner with OEM XM. Not too long ago I removed the shark fin and installed a Wilson 1000 Roof Mount CB antenna. If I ever go with Satellite radio again, I'm going with Sirius and I'll just use the magnet mount antenna. I would probably just get one of the Plug and play "A la Carte" radios since I really only listened to a few stations.
 
I'm using my OEM XM radio without any issues. I'm in Dallas, and I rarely loose my signal. This usually happens when I'm parking in the garage at work, I expect to loose it there. Remarkably, it stays going MOST of the time in nearly ALL of the garage. I'm a bit stumped by that, but I've not had it fail even once yet. (knock on wood). Took the truck to houston to see family, and listened to it all the way there and back without issue.

Just my 2cents..
 
I've taken two longish trips in the past month, both within the state of Oregon. I was pretty disappointed in the drop-outs of signal in both trips. As long as there was a clear view to the south I had no problems. When there was _any_ kind of blockage to the south I lost signal. My Magellen GPS never dropped out during these trips so I have to assume the XM satellite(s) are just too low in the southern sky for constant reception at this lattitude. It just so happens my free trial period ended at the end of the second trip so XM won't be seeing my subscription money.

You may be right concerning the position of the satellite in relation to the horizon. I will lose the XM signal in a few places while driving through the Gorge on the Oregon side of the Columbia River. A better example is driving over Snoqualmie Pass in WA. I get very good reception when driving west along I90, but will lose the signal in a few places traveling east bound (and the mountain is on the south/east of the vehicle). However, going in either direction, I'm getting better reception with XM than trying maintain a FM signal.
 
You may be right concerning the position of the satellite in relation to the horizon. I will lose the XM signal in a few places while driving through the Gorge on the Oregon side of the Columbia River. A better example is driving over Snoqualmie Pass in WA. I get very good reception when driving west along I90, but will lose the signal in a few places traveling east bound (and the mountain is on the south/east of the vehicle). However, going in either direction, I'm getting better reception with XM than trying maintain a FM signal.

I dont know. If thats true than why during the previous 4 years when I had an aftermarket Sirius Stiletto installed in my 4th gen 4runner did it never cut out?
Literally, not once during the entire 4 years did I ever have any issue with losing reception.

Also, a few here have chimed in and said they have no problem with reception.
 
The XM satellites are in geostationary orbit over the equator, some handling the western US and some for the eastern US. (I don't recall how many are on each side.) Geostationary means they don't move in relation to the Earth, so they are always hovering over the same spot on the planet at all times. From our perspective on Earth, a geostationary satellite just stays in one place in the sky and doesn't move. Since they are so far south (over the equator), the further north you go the lower in the horizon they get. This means your signal strength drops the further north you go. I would run into this with a Pioneer XM unit in one of my previous cars. I installed the antenna on the dash up by the windshield rather than on the roof. Down here in southern California it worked fine. Traveling up to northern Cali and Oregon, though, would cause it to start dropping out more often the further north I went.

I later moved the antenna to the roof of the car. That helped a lot, but I'd still get more cut-outs the further north I'd go.

An interesting note is that XM has ground-based repeater units in many urban areas, especially those with very tall buildings that would otherwise block the satellite signals. It's possible that those of your who've always had good signal strength happen to live in an area with repeaters, or you live in the southern US where signal is the strongest.

Sirius works differently, though. It doesn't use geostationary satellites over the equator like XM does, but rather it uses 3 satellites that are constantly orbiting the planet. They carefully time each satellite's orbit so that at least one of them is always over the US.

I don't know how they do it now that XM and Sirius merged, though. Do they simply pump out the same content through *all* the satellites, so you get the same content whether you have an XM or a Sirius receiver? Anyone know which one the 4runner uses?
 
I've had horrible reception problems. When I am traveling north and east, its okay, south and west are terrible. I currently have a cargo rack on it, and I think that makes things worse, but it was bad before I put the rack on. Compared to other XM oem radios, this is garbage. I've had oem radios in two chevy and one gmc truck and all were perfect.

I've read about a mod where the sharkfin is shaved and epoxied. I may try that this fall. I listen to mainly sat radio, so I don't want to be without for long. :cry:
 
Around Burlington VT if I get near a 3 story building I lose signal. It is certainly bad enough that I will not pay for the service when my free months are up.
 
In my 4th gen 4runner I had an aftermarket sirius "stilleto" reciever installed. It worked great and would get 100% reception rain or shine, or through 2-3 inches of snow on my roof.

The XM receiver in my 2011 4runner seems to fade in and out often, it seems like a feather passing over the antenae makes it fade out.

Anyone else having this issue? Is this something the dealer can fix?

Where did you place your antenna? I has also installed an aftermarket xm player in mine. I like to place it on the dash and didn't have any problems on several cars including my 03 4Runner. I initially had the antenna on the dash on my 5th gen, but didn't get consistent reception. I gad to move my antenna outside. Once I did that it improved the reception.
 
I've not had any problems with mine. I have had a weak signal when in a garage but that can be expected.
 
It's possible that those of your who've always had good signal strength happen to live in an area with repeaters, or you live in the southern US where signal is the strongest.
I am in Dallas, which is obviously the Southern US. I can confirm that :)


I don't know how they do it now that XM and Sirius merged, though. Do they simply pump out the same content through *all* the satellites, so you get the same content whether you have an XM or a Sirius receiver? Anyone know which one the 4runner uses?

The 4Runner has the XM reciever. Sirius has slightly different channel numbers. I've got a friend who has Serius and he was telling me about some good channels. I went to check a few out and found nothing like he was telling me. Later comparison revealed they are actually still different. Some channels are the same, some are way different. Toyota has an XM reciever in thiers tho, I can confirm that. :)
 
I dont know. If thats true than why during the previous 4 years when I had an aftermarket Sirius Stiletto installed in my 4th gen 4runner did it never cut out?
Literally, not once during the entire 4 years did I ever have any issue with losing reception.

Also, a few here have chimed in and said they have no problem with reception.

Take a look at jreiter's post. He did a good job of explaining how satellite radio works. Remember, this is XM, not Sirius. They may not act the same due to the different orbits.

The antenna on your roof needs a direct line of sight with the satellite to receive a signal. When I lose a signal, I can look around and see there is some type of obstruction to the south. Try doing this when your signal drops. You might find it's just a "normal" signal drop due to an obstruction. That's just the way satellites work. My satellite TV will drop a signal for a while when a bad storm comes between my antenna and the satellite.

If you don't think the signal drops are from normal obstructions to the south, by all means have the dealer take a look. It could be something as simple as a poor cable connection between your receiver and antenna.

Satellite has its drawbacks and so does FM. You're not going to receive a satellite signal if there's an obstruction between you and the satellite. However, you're not going to receive your favorite FM station several hundreds of miles away.

Good luck!
 
I have a PT Cruiser with an OEM Sirius subscription and my 4Runner with the XM. while the companies have merged, they are still running two different satellite services. All they have done is shuffled a few stations, and added "The Best of..." to the empty channels in the opposite lineup.

Regarding performance, in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming, Sirius gets the better reception. I haven't been able to compare the two farther south... yet.

I did shave the sharkfin down (to fit my rack) and used a clear epoxy to keep it sealed and water tight. That did seem to improve reception but I have no empirical data to support my observation.
 
Reception sucks.
It's the factory installed shark fin. My wife drives a subaru with a fin and XM sucks in that too.
Never had any issues with the aftermarket stuff though. Ran that for 6 years. Thinking of going back to aftermarket but it looks like crap.
 

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