Slee Off-road Hi-Lift Mounts

[HB 4X4]

I decided that I no longer wanted my Hi-Lift in the back. Even though I had it tied down with ratchet straps, I still felt it would come lose in the event of a rollover. I ordered the Slee mounts, and they arrived in 3 days. Great service, and a great product. They were $69 + $11 shipping. Well worth it, and they look great.

 

[BlairB]

I am jealous...


but you already knew that!

 

[HB 4X4]

I am jealous...


but you already knew that!

Yup

Since you're not online, any luck with the sliders since I talked to you earlier today?

 

[K.C.]

Josh,

What's a Slee Off-road Hi-Lift Mounts

 

[HB 4X4]

Josh,

What's a Slee Off-road Hi-Lift Mounts

Kenny,
They allow you to attach a Hi-Lift to the factory Toyota roof racks as you can see in the pictures.

Here's a link to the page:
http://sleeoffroad.com/products/products_roofracks_acc.htm

Look at the 2nd item down, on the right column.

 

[K.C.]

After reading the link you provided 3x...I finally realize what that is haha :bash:

So you're only selling the mounts? Not the jack?

And the jack is to help lift stuff onto the roof right?

 

[HB 4X4]

After reading the link you provided 3x...I finally realize what that is haha :bash:

So you're only selling the mounts? Not the jack?

And the jack is to help lift stuff onto the roof right?

No, I was just stating how much it cost, I am not selling it. I just got them today, selling them would be absurd.

Hi-Lifts lift the vehicle, not things onto the roof of the vehicle. Search YouTube for Hi-Lift and you can see some video's of how they are used. The most common use is to jack up one side of the truck to change a flat tire.

 

[K.C.]

Oh boy...I can't read.

 

[Falls]

Nice Josh.

I'm sure safer there than inside.

 

[Thai]

Hi-Lifts are not for everyone. They are in itself a dangerous tool off-road to use. You must regularly use them to really get a feel on how to use them and when to use them. Looking at pictures or videos on how to use them is NOT good enough IMHO. I would bet that there have been more "oops" from using the Hi-Lift than it actually helping!

A lot of people who have them simply have them for the "coolness" factor. Lifting your vehicle on dry hard pavement is a lot different than lifting your vehicle over uneven soft/muddy terrain! Hi-Lift will certainly cause bodily injury and damage to your vehice if you're not a true expert in using it.

Many off-road enthusiasts recommend a good aftermarket bottle jack as a way more useful tool to use when you need to replace your tires.

Here is an off-road instructor's opinion on Hi-Lift:
"Hi Lift jacks are the worst, useless, heavy, bulky, unstable, dangerous add on anyone could carry in a 4x4.
I have seen them tip and fall many times and in one instance during lowering almost kill a guy (handle slipped out of his hand and hit his face hard - many broken skull bones and bad bleeding). Substitute winch? By the time you get the slack out of the line you get about a foot (30 cm) of winching distance out of them.

To change tires, nothing beats a strong bottle jack.
To winch, nothing beats a dedicated winch with at least 50 m of line and plenty of acccessories. Don't forget a high amp alternator."

So, again, Hi-Lift is not all that useful in the real world...and may be more dangerous than useful in some (most?) situations. If you're building a rig to look cool ("off-road bling") and attract girls, then yeah, it is a cheap mod.

 

[Thai]

Here is a good example of a Hi-Lift problem: http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=136160

And if you were to store a Hi-Lift, then i would highly recommend you store it INSIDE YOUR VEHICLE or HOME. As pointed out by the thread above, there are many people that do not think much of the Hi-Lift. And storing it outside your vehicle (in the elements) is just asking for trouble!!

Hi-Lift + Outside mounting = Pure off-road bling....

 

[Falls]

Josh Not to change the topic but are you still using Zaino on you truck ?




OK ...."Back to our regularly scheduled programming" .... Hi-lift Jack Mounts

 

[HB 4X4]

Hi-Lifts are not for everyone. They are in itself a dangerous tool off-road to use. You must regularly use them to really get a feel on how to use them and when to use them. Looking at pictures or videos on how to use them is NOT good enough IMHO. I would bet that there have been more "oops" from using the Hi-Lift than it actually helping!

A lot of people who have them simply have them for the "coolness" factor. Lifting your vehicle on dry hard pavement is a lot different than lifting your vehicle over uneven soft/muddy terrain! Hi-Lift will certainly cause bodily injury and damage to your vehice if you're not a true expert in using it.

Many off-road enthusiasts recommend a good aftermarket bottle jack as a way more useful tool to use when you need to replace your tires.

Here is an off-road instructor's opinion on Hi-Lift:
"Hi Lift jacks are the worst, useless, heavy, bulky, unstable, dangerous add on anyone could carry in a 4x4.
I have seen them tip and fall many times and in one instance during lowering almost kill a guy (handle slipped out of his hand and hit his face hard - many broken skull bones and bad bleeding). Substitute winch? By the time you get the slack out of the line you get about a foot (30 cm) of winching distance out of them.

To change tires, nothing beats a strong bottle jack.
To winch, nothing beats a dedicated winch with at least 50 m of line and plenty of acccessories. Don't forget a high amp alternator."

So, again, Hi-Lift is not all that useful in the real world...and may be more dangerous than useful in some (most?) situations. If you're building a rig to look cool ("off-road bling") and attract girls, then yeah, it is a cheap mod.

They are obviously useful enough since anyone who is serious about off-roading has one. I never said to learn how to use one by watching video's, only to get a general idea of what they do since Kenny didn't know. The best way to learn how to use one is get comfortable with how everything works in a controlled environment such as a flat driveway before you ever have to use it on the trails. Respect the Hi-Lift, and you'll keep your head. People get hurt when they treat them as if they aren't dangerous.

Here is a good example of a Hi-Lift problem: http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=136160

And if you were to store a Hi-Lift, then i would highly recommend you store it INSIDE YOUR VEHICLE or HOME. As pointed out by the thread above, there are many people that do not think much of the Hi-Lift. And storing it outside your vehicle (in the elements) is just asking for trouble!!

Hi-Lift + Outside mounting = Pure off-road bling....

Storing it outside is the most convenient. No one wants to unload the entire truck to get to a Hi-Lift that is buried, nor put a dirty Hi-Lift back in.

If I decide to leave it up all the time, I will get a neoprene boot which covers the mechanisms.

I also think that negligence is as much of a problem as not knowing how to use one, such as in the link you provided. By not keeping the jack in good condition, well lubed, etc, you will run into problems. Regularly giving it a spray with WD-40 will prevent rust and lubing it before every use will keep it in working order.

The only issue I have with mine right now is my sliders are tubular, and the Hi-Lift is meant for flat surfaces. I have a slider adapter ordered from WabFab but it could still be a few more weeks before I ever see it.

Josh Not to change the topic but are you still using Zaino on you truck ?




OK ...."Back to our regularly scheduled programming" .... Hi-lift Jack Mounts

Yeah I am, but I haven't detailed it in quite a while, so the only Zaino's it sees currently is the soap, tire gloss, and instant detailing gloss enhancer.

 

[onewheelshort13]

Here is a good example of a Hi-Lift problem: http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=136160

And if you were to store a Hi-Lift, then i would highly recommend you store it INSIDE YOUR VEHICLE or HOME. As pointed out by the thread above, there are many people that do not think much of the Hi-Lift. And storing it outside your vehicle (in the elements) is just asking for trouble!!

Hi-Lift + Outside mounting = Pure off-road bling....

I took a 4X4 class last year, and learned a lot about HiLifts from the instructor. I have to disagree with most of what you said, other than there is no substitute for a real winch. I would not trust a bottle jack on anything other than a PERFECT surface. Although your post has some truth to it, a well educated person who has practiced with it can use one without any negative effects.
Storing it inside has massive risks in the event of an accident or rollover. Would you put the safety of yourself, and those traveling with you at risk because you didn't want to keep it maintained on the roof, tire carrier, etc? If you are worried about your skill level and damaging your body, open the door when you use it... It seems that negligence and incompetence are the biggest reasons for HiLift misfortunes, not the HiLift itself.

 

[Thai]

I took a 4X4 class last year, and learned a lot about HiLifts from the instructor. I have to disagree with most of what you said, other than there is no substitute for a real winch. I would not trust a bottle jack on anything other than a PERFECT surface. Although your post has some truth to it, a well educated person who has practiced with it can use one without any negative effects.
Storing it inside has massive risks in the event of an accident or rollover. Would you put the safety of yourself, and those traveling with you at risk because you didn't want to keep it maintained on the roof, tire carrier, etc? If you are worried about your skill level and damaging your body, open the door when you use it... It seems that negligence and incompetence are the biggest reasons for HiLift misfortunes, not the HiLift itself.

I think that you will find many opinions to differ from yours from experts. I would take a bottle jack over a Hi Lift anyday if i had to change my tires off-road. Why would a Hi LIft be any better than a good bottle jack at lifting the vehicle to change a tire??

BTW, the above is not all my opinion...the quote is from Harald (on 4x4abc.com)...he is a cranky German off-road instructor for many years.

I don't know...i might prefer storing it inside properly with tie-downs or secure it under seat rather than have a Hi-Lift that has been exposed to elements and failing at the wrong time! Your choice.

Josh, if you read the above thread more carefully, then you will see that the poster in that Land Rover thread did care for the jack. Storing it outside has its price.

 

[Thai]

They are obviously useful enough since anyone who is serious about off-roading has one.

If I decide to leave it up all the time, I will get a neoprene boot which covers the mechanisms.

So, is that why YOU have one, Josh?? Have you even used it? I assume that you have had mucho experience with it off-road for you to have one on your truck in such a pretty position, right? Did you use it when you had the flat tire on your next to last off-road trip??

Hmmm, is this another of your "gonna do it next time" thing? Ya know, kinda like airing down your P-rated tires?!

Your Hi-Lift sure looks brand spanking new!! It looks like it has not even been lubed up!

So, you will not be leaving your Hi-Lift on your 4runner?? So, you will only put it on your roof just before off-roading??

Sorry to be hard on your Josh.

 

[HB 4X4]

So, is that why YOU have one, Josh?? Have you even used it? I assume that you have had mucho experience with it off-road for you to have one on your truck in such a pretty position, right? Did you use it when you had the flat tire on your next to last off-road trip??

Hmmm, is this another of your "gonna do it next time" thing? Ya know, kinda like airing down your P-rated tires?!

Your Hi-Lift sure looks brand spanking new!! It looks like it has not even been lubed up!

So, you will not be leaving your Hi-Lift on your 4runner?? So, you will only put it on your roof just before off-roading??

Sorry to be hard on your Josh.

Have I used it? Yes. Have I NEEDED to use it yet? No.

It has been lubed.

It looks new because it pretty much is. Blair got it for me for Christmas, but I don't see how the appearance of my Hi-Lift is relative. Even it it were, it's pretty obvious that the paint chips on the side where the handle is located, not the outer side. Since you can only see the outer side, you cannot make this judgment.

So according to you, I bought a Hi-lift, sliders, slider adapter, roof mounts, and everything else because I wanted my truck to look cool? Did you buy all of your guns to feel like a bigger "man" or to be prepared if the situation to use it ever arises? I have my own answer for that one, but I am sure you bought it to be prepared.

 

[Falls]

Enough already !!

 

[Thai]

I am sure you bought it to be prepared.

You are 100% correct.

 

[HB 4X4]

You are 100% correct.

So then why is it any different if I buy a tool to be prepared? Not everything has to be critiqued negatively.