Vansnxtweek
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Thanks for the info! I'm pretty unfamiliar with drum brakes. The left side was worse than the right as far as adjustment but I'll have to take the drums back off and take a closer look.
Soft Brakes
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Thanks for the info! I'm pretty unfamiliar with drum brakes. The left side was worse than the right as far as adjustment but I'll have to take the drums back off and take a closer look.
stever1000
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Would that be consistent with the BOTTOM RIGHT being worn and the BOTTOM LEFT being normal? i.e. only half of the bottom of the shoes is worn?
with the drum off apply the park brake and see how the shoes move.
stever1000
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I got my new SS brake lines and master cylinder last night. However the new master cylinder didn't come with a bleeding kit for bench bleeding. Disappointing. I guess because its OEM toyota from Camelback it's meant for dealerships or shops who already have the tools
stever1000
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Installed my new master cylinder from Camelback Toyota tonight
Also installed front SS brake lines, bent a new hard line, and replaced the rear rubber hose. I went through a lot of fluid since all the lines were open and drained out. Used new fluid to flush out the old fluid. I think I used at least 32oz because I had so many bubbles trapped.
I took it for a test drive only to check to make sure I have brakes.
Will take it for a longer drive tomorrow to see how it reacts...
Another member suggested my booster may be bad...how do I diagnose that, now that I know my M/C is new??
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Also installed front SS brake lines, bent a new hard line, and replaced the rear rubber hose. I went through a lot of fluid since all the lines were open and drained out. Used new fluid to flush out the old fluid. I think I used at least 32oz because I had so many bubbles trapped.
I took it for a test drive only to check to make sure I have brakes.
Will take it for a longer drive tomorrow to see how it reacts...
Another member suggested my booster may be bad...how do I diagnose that, now that I know my M/C is new??
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19963.4lsr5
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Bleed your brakes one more time after it sat a while. At least open each bleeder for 30 sec with the cover off the master cylinder to remove any air that collected near the wheels.
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stever1000
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Should I drive it a while then bleed again or how much time after it sits for a while?
19963.4lsr5
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I drive a little then bleed again, letting it sit over night in the garage.
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stever1000
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Bled them again. I have speed bleeders so air isn't supposed to go backwards through the bleeder valve. All 4 wheels had a couple tiny bubbles, and one of the rear ones had a few bigger ones.
Driving it a bit this weekend to see if it's better
Air in the ABS system has me concerned after reading other threads saying some people haven't been able to get rid of their soft brakes.
stever1000
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So I have concluded that there must be multiple things at play here
I drove the 4runner then let it sit overnight, then bled the brakes again.
The brakes respond better than before, so the M/C must have been on its last leg.
However, the brakes are still soft. I notice at low speeds or idle the brakes are less responsive. On the highway they are more responsive. Also, if I hit the brakes a few times they are more responsive than if I just hit them once. This makes me think my booster is shot? At the stop light after the 4runner is stopped, I can press the pedal further. I think this is the pressure escaping the booster? It doesn't remain firm.
I drove the 4runner then let it sit overnight, then bled the brakes again.
The brakes respond better than before, so the M/C must have been on its last leg.
However, the brakes are still soft. I notice at low speeds or idle the brakes are less responsive. On the highway they are more responsive. Also, if I hit the brakes a few times they are more responsive than if I just hit them once. This makes me think my booster is shot? At the stop light after the 4runner is stopped, I can press the pedal further. I think this is the pressure escaping the booster? It doesn't remain firm.
