Some great news for third gen 4runner owners and frame rust!

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I just can't imagine that all those rusted parts attached to the rusted frame . What would make you think your rebuild would survive? I can hear it now. "Sir , we need your approval on this OEM parts list. Many of your OEM parts are beyond the point of service or were destroyed while taking them off ". What a nightmare !
As one of my Tech friends said, "take the money and move on". To the crusher, and Toyota gets a sales boost.
I'm not sure what I would do?
 
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Don't bother counting mine for a frame swap. You'll be buying mine back, Toyota.
Yes, I love the truck but I needs me a new ride right about now. Just not sure I can wait till next year.
 
Why did toyota recall the tacoma, sequoia and tundra then? This isnt just a "part" this is the main component that holds the vehicle together and its deteroriating unusually fast. My 15 year old tahoes frame has some frame rust but no where close to the holes present on my 4runner. Once the rust starts from the inside, you may as well kiss ur frame goodbye bc by the time u catch it its already deteroriated from the inside.

Its funny bc I posted this exact same thing on the sequoia forums and everyone said exactly whats being said here with me not having hard proof. Call me crazy, call me a liar. Yes i have no proof other then a verbal statement from the GM as to what was said at his meetings.. Is he full of crap?? Well hes been right on my last two vehicles before the release came out.

I just thought i would be of some help by mentioning what I heard but now its backfiring. And to the two people who private messaged me accusing me of lying. Grow up. This was simply meant to help people

As was said, those frames were worse than the 4runner frames. There have been other posts from a long time ago detailing the difference in the process for the taco/Tundra/sequoia frames form the 4runner frames, and thus why the 4runners weren't recalled. I can't verify that those details are correct, but it didn't sound made up at least.

And I am not trying to criticize you for posting, I'd love it if you are correct. I was just stating my worthless, non-contributing opinion; or in other words, internet-ing.

I don't know about Ohio, but here in NE, you see very few vehicles over 10-15 years old, because they all rust out. When I go home to Colorado, I notice a huge number of older cars still on the road. My point is just that I don't think that the 4runners are so incredibly different in their rust prevention (on the frame) than other cars that it warrants a recall. Especially now after the last one was produced 13 years ago. Failure after 13 years, even on a vehicle isn't a recall-worthy failure rate (and that is coming from my experience as an automotive engineer).

Honestly, if there was a recall on the 4runner, in my mind it would be the LBJ's, and the solution would be to redesign and replace the entire knuckle/LBJ/LCA assembly the way they did for the 4th gen. That is a real safety issue, and I think approaches recall level of danger. IIRC they did issue a sort of recall on them, but I think they just replaced the part with a new LBJ that had a better alloy that could withstand the stress better, which is why OEM is so much better on the LBJ's. I haven't seen the catastrophic failures of a frame that we have seen on the LBJ's, so the risk just isn't as severe. That's just my opinion though.
 
If and it's a big if, they issue a recall, I'm sure they'll be quite the inspection process to minimize cost and weed out those that don't really need it.

Mine at almost 482,000 km looks pretty good although how do you find the hidden stuff. But then I've had it sprayed every spring & fall since new so who knows. I'm no expert.

It'll be very interesting to see how this unfolds but a payout? No thanks.
What would you get for a 16 year old truck with a half million on it?
 
If this did happen I wonder how they would treat the frames that people have treated/repaired/painted already? My frame had a good amount of surface rust and I have wire brushed most of it off and then sprayed it with rust reformer and rubberized undercoating. It looks much better now, but as others have said, I don't have a camera to look inside the frame.
 
What about those that have been welded on and modified and cut?! I could use a frame right about now! :lol
 
You Gentlemen that have cut and modified your trucks in any way may leave the Dealership!
Please leave you VIN. with us . Thank you and good day Sir.
Remember no one has received a letter stating any of this is going to happen.
It does make for interesting internet banter though.
Believe me I wish it were true for those that want to go through it.
 
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I can do some checking. Have family friends that own a dealership, I'll ask if they have heard anything.
 
has this been confirmed yet by ANYONE besides OP?

based on the first post there should be other people on this forum who've heard firsthand if its true.
 
I check the Toyota TIS site every day, multiple times per day, and haven't seen squat about 4runner frames. The only vehicles currently getting attention are previous gen. tundras and sequoias. The tundras get the spray on coating, and the sequoias are getting the spray and possibly a frame depending on rust condition.
 
Got to love the posts of guys thinking they will get a new frame. If the vehicle is too worn or old to justify the replacement they will buy it from you and crush it.
 
Spoke with my local Toyota rep here in NJ. He basically told me there is NO chance in hell that this would ever happen at this point. He's not heard a word and yes they are VERY aware of the rust issues for our trucks. It's just not gonna happen.
 
As was said, those frames were worse than the 4runner frames. There have been other posts from a long time ago detailing the difference in the process for the taco/Tundra/sequoia frames form the 4runner frames, and thus why the 4runners weren't recalled. I can't verify that those details are correct, but it didn't sound made up at least.

And I am not trying to criticize you for posting, I'd love it if you are correct. I was just stating my worthless, non-contributing opinion; or in other words, internet-ing.

I don't know about Ohio, but here in NE, you see very few vehicles over 10-15 years old, because they all rust out. When I go home to Colorado, I notice a huge number of older cars still on the road. My point is just that I don't think that the 4runners are so incredibly different in their rust prevention (on the frame) than other cars that it warrants a recall. Especially now after the last one was produced 13 years ago. Failure after 13 years, even on a vehicle isn't a recall-worthy failure rate (and that is coming from my experience as an automotive engineer).

Honestly, if there was a recall on the 4runner, in my mind it would be the LBJ's, and the solution would be to redesign and replace the entire knuckle/LBJ/LCA assembly the way they did for the 4th gen. That is a real safety issue, and I think approaches recall level of danger. IIRC they did issue a sort of recall on them, but I think they just replaced the part with a new LBJ that had a better alloy that could withstand the stress better, which is why OEM is so much better on the LBJ's. I haven't seen the catastrophic failures of a frame that we have seen on the LBJ's, so the risk just isn't as severe. That's just my opinion though.

Didn't know you were from CO :P
 
I've been fortunate and in Colorado we don't use salt but we do use Magchloride but it doesn't seem to have the corrosive effect of salt plus it's easier to spray off and doesn't get stuck in the nooks and crannies.





Mine was purchased in SoCal in fall of '98 and then made it to Colorado a few years later and I bought it in fall of 2004 and the frame looks great and I'm even still on the original exhaust.
No rust under the hood either.
 
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