Sooo whose 4Runner is this that rolled over on black ice?

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At 0.05 mark you can see the front left wheel is still straight. Has to follow the drag race maneuver, turn the wheel to right to keep it rolling.
 
johnbyebye said:
The wheels regained traction when it was almost sideways, therefore transferring the momentum into a roll.
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Yea, that's the only thing I could thing of. Going from ice to dry sideways & bam. I was reading his build thread & he said his front PS tire slide out.. That's wrong, his RR rear tire spun out & slid him sideways. He should have been in 4wd since I dont think a 99 sr5 had all wheel drive.

As soon as you feel that back right tire spin you have to let off the gas & turn the wheel to the opposite direction you are sliding.
 
That would be my 4Runner! I was in 2wd because the conditions were nice minus that one patch. I countersteered slightly but definitely not enough. Once I felt it go, I let go of the gas too. I've slid on ice before, but that was pretty crazy!
 
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JerkyDrewster said:
That would be my 4Runner! I was in 2wd because the conditions were nice minus that one patch. I countersteered slightly but definitely not enough. Once I felt it go, I let go of the gas too. I've slid on ice before, but that was pretty crazy!
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Ice can be real tricky, sometimes it's thicker than others. Sliding downhill really sucks! LOL I totaled my Corolla when I slid into a ditch. When the weather is bad or the road looks slick I put the T4R in 4wd, that's what it's there for. Glad everyone was OK. :thumb:
 
Scramble said:
Ice can be real tricky, sometimes it's thicker than others. Sliding downhill really sucks! LOL I totaled my Corolla when I slid into a ditch. When the weather is bad or the road looks slick I put the T4R in 4wd, that's what it's there for. Glad everyone was OK. :thumb:
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Yeah but he was driving dry roads high speed. Very bad on drivetrain. Probably would not have helped anyways. The issue he had was the snow pack that had melted and frozen in the shade.

I've been in his situation many times. I'm usually puckered and super cautious in this situation and usually hold up traffic as I slow for the turns due to possible black ice.
 
JayRolla said:
Yeah but he was driving dry roads high speed. Very bad on drivetrain. Probably would not have helped anyways. The issue he had was the snow pack that had melted and frozen in the shade.

I've been in his situation many times. I'm usually puckered and super cautious in this situation and usually hold up traffic as I slow for the turns due to possible black ice.
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Yes I do too, being from Cali he's not used to looking out for the things we drive in all winter. Melted snow that looks like water but in the shade & under 32* out equals ice. In 4wd your front tires are pulling & you wouldn't have that RR tire spin out on you. I treat my 4-Hi like awd & 17 years later it's still fine. drivetrain-schmivetrain! The 4runner is one tough mother! LOL :lookout:
 
Scramble said:
Yes I do too, being from Cali he's not used to looking out for the things we drive in all winter. Melted snow that looks like water but in the shade & under 32* out equals ice. In 4wd your front tires are pulling & you wouldn't have that RR tire spin out on you. I treat my 4-Hi like awd & 17 years later it's still fine. drivetrain-schmivetrain! The 4runner is one tough mother! LOL :lookout:
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Being from CA is definitely one of the issues since I don't get a lot of experience in those conditions. I didn't want to be in 4wd for the previous reason, but it may or may not have helped...only speculation as hindsight now! With the new '01, I'll definitely be in awd in that kind of condition where it is mostly dry with patches of ice and snow.
 
Scramble said:
Yes I do too, being from Cali he's not used to looking out for the things we drive in all winter. Melted snow that looks like water but in the shade & under 32* out equals ice. In 4wd your front tires are pulling & you wouldn't have that RR tire spin out on you. I treat my 4-Hi like awd & 17 years later it's still fine. drivetrain-schmivetrain! The 4runner is one tough mother! LOL :lookout:
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So driving in 4WD on dry pavement in a '98 is bad for the transfer case correct? Because it's locked?
 
Winter Driving Tip:
Best thing one can do when black ice or snow covered slippery patch is encountered, on Hwy.
- don't over or under correct steering
- don't apply brake
Take your foot off the gas & try to maintain constant direction &/or lessened speed, while just coasting through the bad spot.

JerkyDrewster - sorry your pride & joy Gen3 got rolled & hope you never suffered any injuries.
- vehicles can always be fixed up or replaced
 
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Mark_BC said:
So driving in 4WD on dry pavement in a '98 is bad for the transfer case correct? Because it's locked?
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Only if you decide to make tight turns. Locked up I can make slight or long turns without any issues. Luck and enjoy. :cowboy:
 
Beaumont67 said:
Winter Driving Tip:
Best thing one can do when black ice or snow covered slippery patch is encountered, on Hwy.
- don't over or under correct steering
- don't apply brake
Take your foot off the gas & try to maintain constant direction &/or lessened speed, while just coasting through the bad spot.

JerkyDrewster - sorry your pride & joy Gen3 got rolled & hope you never suffered any injuries.
- vehicles can always be fixed up or replaced
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Thanks man! Just a cut on my forehead and a little sore in my shoulders and upper back. There were 4 of us in the car and we all walked away which is incredible!

I took the parts off that I wanted and gave it to a dismantler to do the rest.
 
JerkyDrewster said:
Being from CA is definitely one of the issues since I don't get a lot of experience in those conditions. I didn't want to be in 4wd for the previous reason, but it may or may not have helped...only speculation as hindsight now! With the new '01, I'll definitely be in awd in that kind of condition where it is mostly dry with patches of ice and snow.
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Wait.. What's the AWD setting on the '01? 4WD clicked and 4H? I've driven like this city & highway on the sketch days in the winter without any adverse effects besides a drop in MPG.

Noob question maybe but I've only had it for a year and this is the first time I'm reading this. Also glad that you're ok.
 
spazzyone said:
Wait.. What's the AWD setting on the '01? 4WD clicked and 4H? I've driven like this city & highway on the sketch days in the winter without any adverse effects besides a drop in MPG.

Noob question maybe but I've only had it for a year and this is the first time I'm reading this. Also glad that you're ok.
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The AWD setting is the shifter pulled back to 4H but the switch on the dash off.

It is generally best to avoid locking the transfer case on pavement unless you're driving in a straight line. Even then, I don't do it. The wheels need to be allowed to slip. Locking the transfer case in icy conditions can actually make you slip more because it forces the front and rear wheels to spin at the same speed on any sort of turn. I would only ever use AWD/2WD in icy conditions. There seems to be differing opinions on this but I was taught to not lock the transfer case on pavement. To each their own though. :) My last vehicle had an automatic front locking diff in 4WD so it was definitely a big no no on pavement.
 
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