spartan locker

[rudogg760]

ive been looking around and cant find a straight answer. I just got my spartan locker in the mail and a friend of mine would like to install it but hes a jeep guy. he says that the ring and pinion doesnt have to come out and installing the locker wont mess with the back lash. is this true? all the write ups ive seen it seems like the whole thing has to come apart.

 

[MACT4R]

ive been looking around and cant find a straight answer. I just got my spartan locker in the mail and a friend of mine would like to install it but hes a jeep guy. he says that the ring and pinion doesnt have to come out and installing the locker wont mess with the back lash. is this true? all the write ups ive seen it seems like the whole thing has to come apart.

If it's similar to my 4th gen then yes it's true. Ring and pinion only needs to be disassembled if you're changing bad bearings or re-gearing to say 4.56, 4.88 or 5.29. You just work around the ring. There are 2 (can't remember right term) round disk that sets the ring/pinion on both sides of the ring gear. when you're disassembling mark your starting point with a punch and I would count the rotation as you loosen it up. Also, keep in mind that each side is specific so make sure you lay it out Left and right. There's a lot more steps but hopefully that helps with your question. I looked at youtube, looked at fsm and asked help from member who've done it. My experience, better offroading experience. You just have to change the way you drive on curves.

 

[rudogg760]

If it's similar to my 4th gen then yes it's true. Ring and pinion only needs to be disassembled if you're changing bad bearings or re-gearing to say 4.56, 4.88 or 5.29. You just work around the ring. There are 2 (can't remember right term) round disk that sets the ring/pinion on both sides of the ring gear. when you're disassembling mark your starting point with a punch and I would count the rotation as you loosen it up. Also, keep in mind that each side is specific so make sure you lay it out Left and right. There's a lot more steps but hopefully that helps with your question. I looked at youtube, looked at fsm and asked help from member who've done it. My experience, better offroading experience. You just have to change the way you drive on curves.

okay so you didnt take the ring out? local shop wants to charge $250 for it. im not changing gears till next march. Ive had a lockrite in my 88 toy pickup. i loved it. went everywhere with a 22re and 5spd. thank you for the response.

 

[Sean K.]

No need to take out the R&P with any of the lunchbox lockers.

 

[MACT4R]

okay so you didnt take the ring out? local shop wants to charge $250 for it. im not changing gears till next march. Ive had a lockrite in my 88 toy pickup. i loved it. went everywhere with a 22re and 5spd. thank you for the response.

Not the ring gear itself but you do have to take the whole ring gear assembly to get in the little gears in the middle. I might have misunderstood your question. It took a lot of work. It took us about 5hrs to complete start to finish.

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[rudogg760]

Not the ring gear itself but you do have to take the whole ring gear assembly to get in the little gears in the middle. I might have misunderstood your question.

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yea, that looks intimidating lol ill probably just have a shop do it.

 

[MACT4R]

yea, that looks intimidating lol ill probably just have a shop do it.

Yeah. LOL! That's what I said and that's why I asked my buddy for help. Now that I've done it. It's not so bad just time consuming and that f*****r was heavy! My buddy had to lay it on his chest and press it up. It's a tight fit. You can save money by taking the whole thing out and drop it off so they can install it properly then you can install it. But might as well do the whole thing yourself. I would think about regearing too as long as it's out if your going to regear anyways. Or juat drop it off! Haha!

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[rudogg760]

Yeah. LOL! That's what I said and that's why I asked my buddy for help. Now that I've done it. It's not so bad just time consuming and the f*****r was heavy! My buddy had to lay it on his chest and press it up. It's a tight fit. You can save money by taking the whole thing out and drop it up so they can install it properly. I would think about regearing as long as it's out if your going to regear anyways. Or juat drop it off! Haha!

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yea they said its $100 less if i just take them the 3rd member. i cant really afford to re gear both axles right now. if i re gear i can only do the rear and ill only have 2wd till next year and i cant have that since desert season is here :/

 

[MACT4R]

yea they said its $100 less if i just take them the 3rd member. i cant really afford to re gear both axles right now. if i re gear i can only do the rear and ill only have 2wd till next year and i cant have that since desert season is here :/

Thats right you have to regear the front as well. Forgot about that. I put the locker on my 2wd and made it like a baja.

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[KidVermicious]

Here's the actual install process, in case you haven't seen it: https://www.ringpinion.com/b2c/spartanlocker.aspx

And here's a wicked writeup on an Aussie locker install: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...-rear-differential-installation-write-up.html That's almost exactly the same process, except with the Spartan you will NOT put the thrust washers back in.

You can totally do this yourself with basic tools. You do not need to know how to set up a differential, and you do not need to mess with the ring and pinion setup. Reading the instructions makes it look scary, but it will all make sense once you get it on the bench and you're looking at it. Go for it.

 

[rudogg760]

Here's the actual install process, in case you haven't seen it: https://www.ringpinion.com/b2c/spartanlocker.aspx

And here's a wicked writeup on an Aussie locker install: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...-rear-differential-installation-write-up.html That's almost exactly the same process, except with the Spartan you will NOT put the thrust washers back in.

You can totally do this yourself with basic tools. You do not need to know how to set up a differential, and you do not need to mess with the ring and pinion setup. Reading the instructions makes it look scary, but it will all make sense once you get it on the bench and you're looking at it. Go for it.

Thank you so much. That helps a lot

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