Speedometer calibration ???

Southtwnr

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OK so i have been reading and searching and I am thinking of going with a speedohealer to fix my speedometer. I probably wouldnt worry too much but my newly licensed son will be driving this quite a bit and the need for an accurate speedometer is important. It is off by about 10 mph on the freeway.

i havent seen any recent solutions to calibrate for bigger tires but let me know if i am missing something.

I just bought the truck and it is getting the rear main seal fixed (so i cant look). I just bought the truck so I am not super familiar with it but does the 99 2wd SR5 have an electric speedometer?

also where can i find an electrical diagram to see which wire carries the speed signal (i think it is likely an electric speedo)?

thanks
 
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OK so i have been reading and searching and I am thinking of going with a speedohealer to fix my speedometer. I probably wouldnt worry too much but my newly licensed son will be driving this quite a bit and the need for an accurate speedometer is important. It is off by about 10 mph on the freeway.

i havent seen any recent solutions to calibrate for bigger tires but let me know if i am missing something.

I just bought the truck and it is getting the rear main seal fixed (so i cant look). I just bought the truck so I am not super familiar with it but does the 99 2wd SR5 have an electric speedometer?

also where can i find an electrical diagram to see which wire carries the speed signal (i think it is likely an electric speedo)?

thanks

If you have ABS its complicated, if you don't it's still complicated. Here is a basic diagram.

http://tacoma.site40.net/4Runner_96-02_Repair&Wiring/techinfo.toyota.com/ileaf/02toyrm/02toypdf/02rmsour/2002/024runne/di/at/cip0500.pdf

Without ABS it is different, but I haven't researched it enough. Here is a different page for auto trans regarding a #2 speed sensor??

http://tacoma.site40.net/4Runner_96-02_Repair&Wiring/techinfo.toyota.com/ileaf/02toyrm/02toypdf/02rmsour/2002/024runne/di/at/cip1700.pdf

I'll try to get more info for you later!

:fro:
 
I think Dakota Digital has something that may work for ya...My speedo is off by roughly 10MPH also, I personally Don't think it's an issue, but I can see how you would want to cover as many bets as possible for a new driver...
 
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Thanks for the replies guys!

I saw on 120yota (yota120?) where a guy did it to a later model 4Runner and it didnt look too bad as far as difficulty goes. He didnt report any ABS issues but is was a concern that was mentioned.

I am accustomed to working on cars albeit much older ones so I am not knowledgeable about ABS and stuff but the guy wired it between the speed sensor and the speedometer/odometer so I am not sure how it would adversly affect the ABS?

I am going to do some GPS comparisons to the speedometer to see if it is really as bad we think. City driving is only off 3mph so not a big deal.
 
If you have ABS its complicated, if you don't it's still complicated. Here is a basic diagram.

http://tacoma.site40.net/4Runner_96-02_Repair&Wiring/techinfo.toyota.com/ileaf/02toyrm/02toypdf/02rmsour/2002/024runne/di/at/cip0500.pdf

Without ABS it is different, but I haven't researched it enough. Here is a different page for auto trans regarding a #2 speed sensor??

http://tacoma.site40.net/4Runner_96-02_Repair&Wiring/techinfo.toyota.com/ileaf/02toyrm/02toypdf/02rmsour/2002/024runne/di/at/cip1700.pdf

I'll try to get more info for you later!

:fro:

Thanks and I can see from the diagrams why you mentioned the ABS. Isnt there a signal that comes from the transmission to the gauge cluster? That was my understanding of how it was done. I will have to find the write up and post a link....
 
Thanks and I can see from the diagrams why you mentioned the ABS. Isnt there a signal that comes from the transmission to the gauge cluster? That was my understanding of how it was done. I will have to find the write up and post a link....

Not if you have ABS, it comes from the Body Control Module, which in turn gets 4 different signals, one from each wheel. The body control module sends a 4 pulse signal to the Combination Meter(cluster), which is then refined and sent to the ECM.

Do you have ABS?
 
Not if you have ABS, it comes from the Body Control Module, which in turn gets 4 different signals, one from each wheel. The body control module sends a 4 pulse signal to the Combination Meter(cluster), which is then refined and sent to the ECM.

Do you have ABS?

I feel kind of stupid but I don't know! Lol

How would I check? I do have an electrical plug in back of the tranny on the driver's side but I haven't looked at the brakes too much.

I am out of town but can look when I get back. How can I verify if I have abs or not?
 
I feel kind of stupid but I don't know! Lol

How would I check?

The best way to check is to drive your 4runner and apply the brakes, if it makes a bunch of noise, vibrations, goes out of control and tries to kill you... you have ABS. Lol

Seriously though, you can look for the ABS pump on the right rear of your engine bay, check and see if you have an ABS fuse, or see if you have ABS sensors on your steering knuckles or rear axle housing near the wheels.

I'll be watching this thread, I had no idea it was so complicated to adjust the speedometer on a 3rd gen. I just drive slow but an accurate reading would be nice some day.
 
The best way to check is to drive your 4runner and apply the brakes, if it makes a bunch of noise, vibrations, goes out of control and tries to kill you... you have ABS. Lol.

Hilarious!! I just got back in town but will look for those things. I guess I figured by 1999 all cars came with it but I can't say for certain. I will let you all know
 
Ok.

Background-

'99 4runner, Manual hub conversion, 63" Chevy leafs in back. When I did those conversions, i LOST my ABS. Didn't work anymore. At first, when I just did the manual hub, if I would hit a pothole, the speedo whould stop. I'd have to shut off the truck, restart it, and the speedo would work. When I did the 63" conversion, I used a NON-ABS axle housing. There went my Speedo.

I drove for a while using a iPhone app, and listening to the engine, but that was annoying.


Here you go.

You need a Speedo gear from a 1st gen Tacoma. Get the Pigtail as well. There's three wires coming off the pigtail. You want it as long as you can get it.

You're going to need the Speed Calibrator from Dakota Digital as well.

You want to get some 18ga wire, preferably 3 colors, but I managed to use all one.

You're going to take the plug off the t-case, and plug the Speed Sensor(Speedo Gear) into the hole.

Take your Pigtail, and extend the wires so that they'll reach the dashboard. figure out how you want to go before hand. My brother drilled a hole next to his shift boot, and I think I might make that adjustment. Mine runs along the bottom of the truck up to the firewall, where it enters where the BECU goes to the FB, and all the lights and stuff.

Now, pull the cluster out of the dashboard; and get ready to splice into some wires.

Rather than try to type it out all over again, here it is from my Mod thread, Post 13.

Here's another write up for you guys.

This is the Speedo Mod.

Basically, what Toyota did, and don't ask me why, was to run the speedo sensor through the ABS. How it works, I really don't know, but I do know it has something to do with the pulses of the ABS ring. And that's all I care to know, honestly.

When I did my Manual Hub Swap, and my 8.4" in the back, I completely lost my ABS, so there went my speedo. Drove around for a while with no speedo, using an app on my iPhone, and the RPMs of the truck to gauge how fast I was going.

Finally, I found the parts I needed from a guy who was willing to them off of a wrecked Taco.

When I did this mod the first time, I didn't realize what a half-assed job I did, until I got under the truck today to replace my wiring harness. (Special thanks to [MENTION=78895]DeathCougar[/MENTION] for having the right harness, and his timely delivery of it!) Hopefully that will fix my CEL that I've been having a problem getting rid of. :shrug:

Here we go:

Parts needed:

Speedo sensor out of a Tacoma. Any year will do. If you're running different gears like I am, then you don't really need to worry if the gear is right. My speedo is 16% off because of the 4.88s that I'm running. If you're running stock gears, see if you can get one from a Taco with your gearing. That should keep your speedo pretty damn accurate.

18ga Wire, a lot of it. You can use one color, or you can use three seprate colors. The choice is yours.

Wire cutters/strippers. :girl:

Butt-Connectors or Soldering Iron and solder.

Shrink Wrap- again, lots of it.

Now, first thing you want to do is to take your gauge cluster out. If you don't know how to do that, then I'm sorry. I didn't take Pics of taking all the crap off.

Once your Gauge cluster is out, you'll have your plugs resting on the steering wheel. You can see here how I already had this done, just a craptastic job, so I re-did it.

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The wires you're going to need from the gauge cluster are going to be on the small blue connector, and the brown connector. They are the Blue and Grey wire on the Blue Connector, and the Black and Yellow Wire on the Brown connector. These need to be cut so you can splice your Speedo Sensor into them.

On your speedo sensor, there should be a Green wire with a Red stripe, a Blue wire, and a Pink wire. On mine, the Pink wire is the Position One wire, the Blue wire is the Position Two wire, and the Green w/ Red stripe is the Position Three Wire.

These wires are going to be extended, and then spliced into the gauge cluster.

The Position One wire(Pink, in my case), goes into the Black and yellow wire.

The Position Two wire(Blue) goes into a blank space in the Blue connector.

The Position Three wire(Green w/ Red Stripe) goes into the Grey wire with a Blue stripe.

I used some "weather Proof" butt connectors from the speedo sensor to my extension wire. These things are pretty nifty. They're basically butt connectors, that are convered in shrink wrap, with a glue in them to seal the wires off.

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A closer shot of the glue in there.

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Then, to keep the wires all together, I shrink wrapped them all together. This was a PITA. I basically had to cut a section of shrink wrap about 18-24" long, and feed the wires through it one by one. Now, I had only one color wire at the house, and really didn't feel like going to the store to get more, so I just tied knots on the end of them, to remember which one was where. One knot for the Green w/red, two knots for the blue, and three for the pink. Here's a Pic:

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The shrink wrap wouldn't go over all three butt connectors, but, like I said, they're weather proof, so I'm not too worried about it.

The Speedo sensor needs to go on the transfer case, at the back. ON the 4Runner, there is a plug where it needs to go. A Pic for reference. That one bolt is all that holds it onto the t-case.

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I plugged mine in, and ran the wires over the transmission along the wiring harness to keep them out of the way. Then I ran them into the grommet where the body ECU somes out at the fire wall. Then up behing the dash, just by feeding them up, and pulled them through where the gauge cluster sits.

Now, remember how I said the Blue wire needs to get put into an empty slot in the blue connector? Yeah. It's this one. It's right next to a solid green wire. You can also see the grey wire with a blue stripe that I cut.

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Now, all that's left, is to splice the wires together. I took my extension wires, and twisted them to the wires that were NOT on the connector. Then, I put a normal butt connector on them, and crimped it down.

For the Blue wire in the empty space, I just stripped it, fed it through the slot, and bent the wires up so they wouldn't fall out.

Here's a Pic of all the wires connected. You can see what I did with the butt connectors.

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After that, All you have to do is plug it in, and you're all set.

Keep in mind, that if you're running aftermarket gears, you're speedo is gonna be off. If you didn't get a speed sensor from a Taco with your same gear ratio, your speedo is gonna be off.

Buy this, and it'll take care of that. I'm about to buy one so I can adjust my speedo.

Universal Speedometer Signal Interface

That's all there is to it, guys. Any Questions, feel free to ask.
 

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