Stuck in snow much?

[bpowa]

Well this is my first year in snow. I got stuck twice. The pathetic part is that its not even deep snow.

The first time is about 12" all around.

This morning 2" of snow on 3 tires and 12" on 1 tire. Trying to leave for work.

I know I need new tires. They currently have bridgestone revo's 3-4 32'nds left.

Anyone else get stuck this easily. I love the truck and knowing I can take it almost anywhere is the reason why I did not get a Forrester or kept my Outback.

 

[CXS]

That's just wrong, I have to ask - did you put it in low?

 

[green_manalishi]

You guessed it... Tires.

 

[bpowa]

That's just wrong, I have to ask - did you put it in low?

Yes.. And rocked it back and fourth. Wheels kept spinning. My 2 year old who starting to put words together "daddy you ok?"

Im not even sure if I should post a pic of it this morning. Its even more sad.

I would not want it to be blasted all over the Jeep forums.LOL

 

[bpowa]

You guessed it... Tires.

Im thinking of getting a narrower set like yours.. What are the advantages??

I dont want a really heavy tire. Given I like low noise and not too aggressive. Quiet.

It was the reason I got the revo's. It has about 65K miles and served me very well. But I recently moves to WA and driving conditions are not the same as CA.

I was thinking BFG a/t.

 

[green_manalishi]

Im thinking of getting a narrower set like yours.. What are the advantages??

I dont want a really heavy tire. Given I like low noise and not too aggressive. Quiet.

It was the reason I got the revo's. It has about 65K miles and served me very well. But I recently moves to WA and driving conditions are not the same as CA.

I was thinking BFG a/t.

BFG's have great reviews, though I'd bet confirmation bias has a significant impact. I like my AT51's in all winter conditions. My only gripe is that not all the siping is full depth, so I'll have to do some work with a utility blade at some point. They probably won't last as long as KO2's, but they were also half the price.

As for skinny vs wide, contrary to what many believe, there is no difference in friction between the two. Friction is independent of contact area. The difference between the two off road is that skinny tires help to dig down and find solid traction. Furthermore, the weight savings help conserve fuel, unsprung mass and rotational mass. Wider tires are advantageous when float is needed like in deep snow, sand, or mud.

Edited for clarity.

 

[Inv4drZm]

Get some new Duratracs.

 

[bpowa]

BFG's have great reviews, though I'd bet confirmation bias has a significant impact. I like my AT51's in all winter conditions. My only gripe is that not all the siping is full depth, so I'll have to do some work with a utility blade at some point. Also, they probably won't last as long as KO2's, but they were also half the price.

As for skinny vs wide, besides the weight savings, skinny tires offer more grip longitudinally (straight ahead) while wider tires offer more grip laterally (cornering). Longitudinal grip is generally more important when off road and skinny help to dig down to find solid traction. Wider tires are advantageous when float is needed like in deep snow, sand, or mud.

That is good info.. I checked tirerack and Kumho site. Unfortunately it does not have the tread depth rating for your size. Can you tell me if it is 15 or 13 32nd? Im leaning towards this tire, due to price. Also got to replace tires on my wife's vehicle. :/ That saved my ass getting to work today.

 

[green_manalishi]

That is good info.. I checked tirerack and Kumho site. Unfortunately it does not have the tread depth rating for your size. Can you tell me if it is 15 or 13 32nd? Im leaning towards this tire, due to price. Also got to replace tires on my wife's vehicle. :/ That saved my ass getting to work today.

Mine are 15. Pretty sure that's the case with all the LT's.

 

[CXS]

Get some new Duratracs.

Only if you don't wheel on rocks, DT sidewalls are crap.

 

[Inv4drZm]

Only if you don't wheel on rocks, DT sidewalls are crap.

Agreed. You should see mine!

 

[RonJR]

3-4 32nd's isn't enough tread. Colorado requires 4/32 minimum on all tires to meet the traction law requirement, and I personally won't head into winter with less than 6/32.

I've been happy with my KO/KO2's. On my 3rd set across two vehicles.

 

[ben550]

3-4 32nd's isn't enough tread. Colorado requires 4/32 minimum on all tires to meet the traction law requirement, and I personally won't head into winter with less than 6/32.

I've been happy with my KO/KO2's. On my 3rd set across two vehicles.

Good call. I have 7/32nd's on mine now and will run them until the fall next year. I always try to buy new tires when necessary in the fall in preparation for the winter. I never wear tires to the wear bars.

 

[CXS]

Agreed. You should see mine!

They're great on snow but after 3 sidewall failures off-road I gave up and went to BFG KO2's. What surprised me was how the BFG's were quiet compared to the DT's but I suspect that will change as they get some miles on them.

 

[snowboardwcu]

very happy with Falken Wildpeak AT3's. great snow traction (from just the few inches we've had so far), great water traction, full 1/2" of tread. and they are super quiet for AT tires. couldn't be happier. cost half of KO2s.

 

[jonesmw10]

Also happy with my KO2's. Have had them in deep snow with zero issues. They are incredibly quiet, which I love. Only complaint is they take a ton of weight to balance and my wheels love throwing them. That or discount tire sucks...

 

[m85476585]

If you're still stuck, try using ATRAC to get out. It should work in 4HI or 4LOW, but 4HI should be fine for this. First lock the center diff (button with 4 wheels and an X in the middle, and make sure the light on the dash finishes blinking. It might take a couple tries if you're not rolling). Then give it steady pressure on the gas to keep the engine speed around 1000-2500 RPM. You should hear/feel the ABS system clicking right away. Let it do that for several seconds and you might make progress. Revving it higher will not help, and that will just disable the system and get you more stuck by digging a hole. Also I think putting your foot on the brake while also on the gas disables ATRAC, but I'm not 100% sure. If you've already polished the snow smooth around the wheels it could be hard to get out without a little digging. A folding shovel is a great investment for winter.

If that doesn't work, try lightly setting the parking brake (maybe halfway?) while carefully applying the gas just enough to get going but not spin the wheels. It's a long shot, but it could work. Basically a poor man's limited slip diff.

I have Michelin LTX MS2 tires with plenty of tread, and I've never gotten stuck but I've come close a few times.

 

[Drunner97]

Get some new Duratracs.

Great for snow and mud (pulled myself out of some sloppy stuff the other day whereas 2 other 4runners struggled and I had to pull them out as well)

Only if you don't wheel on rocks, DT sidewalls are crap.

^ This.

They're great on snow but after 3 sidewall failures off-road I gave up and went to BFG KO2's. What surprised me was how the BFG's were quiet compared to the DT's but I suspect that will change as they get some miles on them.

I've blown out 4 so far and I'll be going Coopers next after seeing one pinched against a hatchet shaped piece of sharp death valley granite and it barely even left a mark in the tire.

 

[Bossman]

I have Michelin LTX MS2 tires with plenty of tread, and I've never gotten stuck but I've come close a few times.

+1 ... I had these Michelin LTX M/S2s on my 03 Limited (ran them year-round)and never got stuck in any of the weather our Canadian winters threw at me.

 

[bpowa]

If you're still stuck, try using ATRAC to get out. It should work in 4HI or 4LOW, but 4HI should be fine for this. First lock the center diff (button with 4 wheels and an X in the middle, and make sure the light on the dash finishes blinking. It might take a couple tries if you're not rolling). Then give it steady pressure on the gas to keep the engine speed around 1000-2500 RPM. You should hear/feel the ABS system clicking right away. Let it do that for several seconds and you might make progress. Revving it higher will not help, and that will just disable the system and get you more stuck by digging a hole. Also I think putting your foot on the brake while also on the gas disables ATRAC, but I'm not 100% sure. If you've already polished the snow smooth around the wheels it could be hard to get out without a little digging. A folding shovel is a great investment for winter.

If that doesn't work, try lightly setting the parking brake (maybe halfway?) while carefully applying the gas just enough to get going but not spin the wheels. It's a long shot, but it could work. Basically a poor man's limited slip diff.

I have Michelin LTX MS2 tires with plenty of tread, and I've never gotten stuck but I've come close a few times.

Ill try that in a hour from now.. heading home in a bit..:rockon: I locked the diff this morning.. but was in a rush to get to work.. threw some deicer around the tires.. Ill get it out, but just didnt expect to not move in such miniscule snow.. I expect a lot more from the 4runner. Tires in spring.

This truck did so much for me when I moved up here. Look at my past threads.. Towed the other sav home after breaking down on the road. over towing capacity. :crazy: