Isn't that what everyone is doing? You cannot really talk about taxes without bringing politics into it. Yes, taxes are excessive right now and they will be for a long time. Who knows when they will be down to a reasonable level, or if they ever will be.
SURPRISE - more tax for you!
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Isn't that what everyone is doing? You cannot really talk about taxes without bringing politics into it. Yes, taxes are excessive right now and they will be for a long time. Who knows when they will be down to a reasonable level, or if they ever will be.
Brilliant
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Wasnt it obamasexuals and libturds that argued wealthy paying more?
maybe more thomas & less t4r
ndcent
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Seeing more than one person use the term "Obamasexual" I was compelled to look it up. At first, I figured it was just another one of Thai's phobia-phrases.
Obamasexual
"A white person who shows overzealous support of african-americans based on pity, making them, in fact quite racist.
Can also denote any person with an unmerited sense of respect or approval, typically of the african persuasion."
Carry on with the progressive conversation, Jeds.
Obamasexual
"A white person who shows overzealous support of african-americans based on pity, making them, in fact quite racist.
Can also denote any person with an unmerited sense of respect or approval, typically of the african persuasion."
Carry on with the progressive conversation, Jeds.
ndcent
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I'm not equating the two, and absolutely didn't expect you to see the irony of it anyways.
Just pointing out the misguided philosophy of those who use these types of events for political gain, and it happens with both the left and right.
And strangely my remarks made to affirmation about gun control preventing the event, it's your itchy trigger finger conservatism assuming, pun intended.
theizzardking
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nice i was thinking that was going to be the end of the thread, also why don;t we just make an official rant and political argument thread and sticky it with warnings of petty arguments and what might be offensive opinions? might be better than chasing down 4~5 threads at any given time to make sure everyone is being civil...it might cut down on the mod work and keep the stupidity confined to a single spot....could even call it the thai and ndecnt dichotomy.....:decision:
NJshadow93
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Yeah the higher taxes suck. I'm a 20 year old college student, working in a factory while I go to school. I lose $3-5 a shift now depending how many hours I work a week. This is just sad. So much for protecting the middle class. I never thought Romney was the answer but I knew he'd be better than Obama with the taxes and the economy (obviously). A bigger b!tchslap? The taxes went up while Obama was relaxing on a beach in Hawaii. This whole thing makes me sick. But we're already going to be paying off the debt for the rest of our lives...and my future kids' lives, and grandkids, etc...
BrianSD_42
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NJShadow, :juggle: You are clearly confused about what actually happened
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-Brian :usa2:
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NJshadow93
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Not confused at all actually. I know the tax cuts have only been extended through 2012 ( election year, how convenient), and that my money is being thrown away because my generation won't be seeing any of that social security money.
bofa
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+1 Yep, these 'expired' cuts, which are increases, won't do me or my family a bit of good seeing that SS will not be around for my retirement. Give me my 2% back and I'll put it in a 401(k).
I guess if the politicians can't curb their spending, they will let us do the dirty work of cutting our own spending.
I guess if the politicians can't curb their spending, they will let us do the dirty work of cutting our own spending.
Then you understand that the president has nothing to do with spending money, making budgets or collecting taxes, right? :ranger:
NJshadow93
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I do hope you're joking....
RonMAIDEN
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That's all speculation since it sure things seem to change when they all get into office. No guarantee.
NJshadow93
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Of course. I thought this last election was rough either way. I just felt Romney's business experience and success made him more qualified to handle the economy. At least I hoped so anyway. After the last four years I was just hoping things would change but we're all just going to have to wait and see. I just hate the idea of being halfway through college, preparing to start a career, and have this enormous national debt and some unnecessary (IMO) taxes to deal with. It is what it is.
Thai
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You mean...like OBAMA!! Lets face it, Obama may very well be our worst BS President in a long time!
As for Romney...his record speaks for itself. He isn't the conservative choice simply because he has reached across the isle to get things done...THAT is what is needed now, not more class warfare and Congress bickering. Did Obama do much compromising with the fiscal cliff about to slam Americans? Nope.
Although you had no clue of this RonM, but Obama could not get anything done other than passing his prized Obamacare in his first two years of presidency when he had BOTH House and Senate! Nothing. And look where Obamacare has taken us?
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blackrifle01
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So we no longer look at resumes before we hire???
EDIT: at the end of the day, taxes went up on the middle class when we were told they wouldn't by Obama and the democrats. Sadly, the republicans caved and gave in to the FSA. We ultimately have nobody to blame but ourselves. These politicians from the president on down are only doing what they know they can get away with because there will always be fools out there who will vote for them no matter how many times they get screwed. Even now, people are rationalizing the reduction in all of our paychecks...not sure why anyone would do that, but I guess some people have money they don't need.
fact is, our government has a spending problem. It's had a spending problem for decades. It's time we recognize that and actually vote for people who are inclined to attack that spending problem.
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calikev
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The only thing I'm sure of is that I lost $70 a week (net) from my check x 52 weeks = $3640!!!! and the odds of social security being here in 25 yrs when I retire are about 0
Union, no union, Obama, Romney, local govt, state govt, fed govt, guns being bad and labelled assualt rifles, etc...none of this crap matters right now to me!
Where are my $$$. They're just gonna misappropiate this money like the other TRILLIONS we're in debt!
We pay tax on food, cars, lic plates for the damn cars, smog fees in CA, 9.75% local tax here on everything!!!, file fed and state taxes and then pay more after giving thousands throughout the year, home tax anually and when purchasing, SS, medicare taxes....and on and on. How much is enough!
It feels like I have 2 ex wives and 4 kids that will never age to 18 yrs old...it just will never go away.
Union, no union, Obama, Romney, local govt, state govt, fed govt, guns being bad and labelled assualt rifles, etc...none of this crap matters right now to me!
Where are my $$$. They're just gonna misappropiate this money like the other TRILLIONS we're in debt!
We pay tax on food, cars, lic plates for the damn cars, smog fees in CA, 9.75% local tax here on everything!!!, file fed and state taxes and then pay more after giving thousands throughout the year, home tax anually and when purchasing, SS, medicare taxes....and on and on. How much is enough!
It feels like I have 2 ex wives and 4 kids that will never age to 18 yrs old...it just will never go away.
theizzardking
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honestly you should care about it all, because it all will effect you, just not yet and you just may not realize it until it's to late, i'm only 31 but the amount of freedoms and the way things have changed just since i was about your age has been immense, just to go back 15 years would be huge, i see it for sure, and this is just the start of it all.... well that's a lie it's been going to hell since 9/11 everything has become so radicalized and polarized.....:blah::sleepy::juggle:
really the last 12 years has been some ****** and i don't see it getting better for you man.....sorry.....i'm really debating if it's worth bringing children into this existence just beyond the fact that the world probably doesn't need anymore izzard's running around.:keyboard:
calikev
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AGREED! I mis-spoke about not caring about the rest. Actually I care a great deal about politics and all the events mentioned in this thread, just frustrated about being legally robbed. I'm fortunate in the fact that I am financially fine and can pay with no issues, but when I pay more I expect things to be better and this is not the case with this tax hike or any for that matter.
I'll be 42 in April and remember when things were quite a bit better in this country. My kids will be entering college soon and this money could go towards something for them or summer programs to further their knowledge or just get blown on fun things. Regardless of where I put it I'm sure it would be better than giving more to our corrupt govt.
BTW: My wife lost about the same. So it's actually about $7500 from our NET INCOME
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theizzardking
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ha! i read the first post as you being about 18, sorry 'bout that!.....i'm sure you've even seen some bigger changes than i have!!!! i just wonder why most everyone else doesn't notice....
