Suspension Noob Question - Is This Tacoma TRD Setup a Direct Swap?

[Bluesky 07]

I found these components for sale - a Bilstein 4600 setup off a 2014 TRD Tacoma. Thinking of going with it in place of my XREAS, which is still working fine but will eventually fail. Would these be a direct swap onto my '07 Sport?

EDIT: Checked p/ns on Bilstein's site and they're the same for the fronts but the rear shows 24-186056 for the '14 Taco and 24-186049 for the '07 4Runner. So maybe the rears won't work?

If so, thoughts and opinions also welcome. I've seen the 4600 vs. 5100 discussions so I'm aware of the differences there.

Thanks for any insight.

 

[ZebRuaj]

IIRC, you need to change out the bushing for the rear shocks.

Another discussion here along with the bushing part #

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Steel lower bushing sleeve on the front shocks needs to be shaved down a hair, otherwise they are a direct swap and provide roughly 1" lift. Rear shocks require the bushing and sleeve to be pressed out and a new bushing installed. Not worth it IMO since 5th gen 4R shocks are a direct swap along with 5th gen 4R coils which also offer a small lift to the 4th gen.

 

[Bluesky 07]

IIRC, you need to change out the bushing for the rear shocks.

Another discussion here along with the bushing part #

Thanks, I missed that thread in my search. Very helpful.

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

To add to this, 5th gen 4R shocks also have a much larger body than the Tacoma shocks do. Not sure how much that'll help with ride quality but it can't hurt.

 

[jrm]

the TRD front coils

are a bit under sprung for a 4th gen. Thats been my experience. :llama:

 

[Bluesky 07]

Steel lower bushing sleeve on the front shocks needs to be shaved down a hair, otherwise they are a direct swap and provide roughly 1" lift. Rear shocks require the bushing and sleeve to be pressed out and a new bushing installed. Not worth it IMO since 5th gen 4R shocks are a direct swap along with 5th gen 4R coils which also offer a small lift to the 4th gen.

[MENTION=153213]2016 4Runner SR5[/MENTION], from what I've read, it's the FJ fronts that need the bushing sleeve narrowed, not the Tacoma, right? Bilstein's website shows the same 4600 p/n for both my 2007 4Runner and a 2015 Tacoma so I assume this should fit without modification.

 

[swanny]

I'd say stay away from doing this. I did it and the ride was super soft and bouncy. Save your pennies a while longer and do a full upgrade made for your vehicle.

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

[MENTION=153213]2016 4Runner SR5[/MENTION], from what I've read, it's the FJ fronts that need the bushing sleeve narrowed, not the Tacoma, right? Bilstein's website shows the same 4600 p/n for both my 2007 4Runner and a 2015 Tacoma so I assume this should fit without modification.

Can't say for sure. I have a set of 3rd gen Tacoma stock front Bilstein shocks which will eventually make their way under my 2005 sport but that won't be for a while.

 

[Bluesky 07]

I'd say stay away from doing this. I did it and the ride was super soft and bouncy. Save your pennies a while longer and do a full upgrade made for your vehicle.

I appreciate the input. I'm going ahead with the swap and the reason is the nature of changing things like the suspension. If I don't care for a shirt I bought, I can return it; not so much with this. I'd rather risk $130 (seller's final price) to see if I like this than spend hundreds more on a setup I may or may not like and will either be stuck with for a while or lose money reselling it.

Also, and again I appreciate the benefit of your experience, but ride is so subjective and peoples' opinions so varied that it's tough to know whether advice applies to you until you bolt the gear on and drive it.

And if you're right, I'll be the first to post back here telling you I should have listened.

 

[swanny]

I appreciate the input. I'm going ahead with the swap and the reason is the nature of changing things like the suspension. If I don't care for a shirt I bought, I can return it; not so much with this. I'd rather risk $130 (seller's final price) to see if I like this than spend hundreds more on a setup I may or may not like and will either be stuck with for a while or lose money reselling it.

Also, and again I appreciate the benefit of your experience, but ride is so subjective and peoples' opinions so varied that it's tough to know whether advice applies to you until you bolt the gear on and drive it.

And if you're right, I'll be the first to post back here telling you I should have listened.

I wish you the best of luck.

 

[Bluesky 07]

I wish you the best of luck.

Thanks, assuming you're not being sarcastic. ;-)

Surprised your experience wasn't more positive. The 4600 p/n for the Tacoma is the same as the 4Runner so Bilstein must feel it works for either vehicle.

 

[TCP4R]

I appreciate the input. I'm going ahead with the swap and the reason is the nature of changing things like the suspension. If I don't care for a shirt I bought, I can return it; not so much with this. I'd rather risk $130 (seller's final price) to see if I like this than spend hundreds more on a setup I may or may not like and will either be stuck with for a while or lose money reselling it.



Also, and again I appreciate the benefit of your experience, but ride is so subjective and peoples' opinions so varied that it's tough to know whether advice applies to you until you bolt the gear on and drive it.



And if you're right, I'll be the first to post back here telling you I should have listened.

So what’s the update? I see this thread is old but I am about to do the same thing so I would love to hear your feedback if you went through with it.


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[Bluesky 07]

So what’s the update? I see this thread is old but I am about to do the same thing so I would love to hear your feedback if you went through with it.


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It’s been the best upgrade I’ve done to my truck. See the linked thread in my sig.

 

[JVC8790]

So what’s the update? I see this thread is old but I am about to do the same thing so I would love to hear your feedback if you went through with it.


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Also went through with it. Started with 2nd Gen Tacoma fronts and subsequently have found 3rd Gen which I am led to believe provide an additional inch of lift. Those are still yet to be installed but I love the 2nd Gen TRD Offroad stuff I have on there now!

 

[dwilson7725]

Thanks, I missed that thread in my search. Very helpful.

You're exactly right, it's really helpful

 

[rwelch53]

It’s been the best upgrade I’ve done to my truck. See the linked thread in my sig.

I am trying to buy a set of TRD Pro fronts with UCA's off of a 2019 Tacoma with less than 1000 miles on them, so I am stoked to hear you love yours! I figure my '06 V6 2wd should see about 2-2.5" lift from what I've read, but I can't find whether swapping the UCA's is needed to maintain alignment spec or not. I figure with mine having 170k on them, it probably isn't a bad idea anyway, right?

 

[JVC8790]

I am trying to buy a set of TRD Pro fronts with UCA's off of a 2019 Tacoma with less than 1000 miles on them, so I am stoked to hear you love yours! I figure my '06 V6 2wd should see about 2-2.5" lift from what I've read, but I can't find whether swapping the UCA's is needed to maintain alignment spec or not. I figure with mine having 170k on them, it probably isn't a bad idea anyway, right?

The UCA's should be the same, but while you're in there, a UCA with 1000 miles is way better than one with 170k!

 

[rwelch53]

The UCA's should be the same, but while you're in there, a UCA with 1000 miles is way better than one with 170k!

Haha ok cool, that's exactly what I was thinking too! Guy is asking $150 for the set so if I can get them for that or even a little less I'll have them in hand tomorrow.

 

[JVC8790]

Haha ok cool, that's exactly what I was thinking too! Guy is asking $150 for the set so if I can get them for that or even a little less I'll have them in hand tomorrow.

I think I paid like $150 for my first set, then another $100 for the 3rd gen fronts only. Hoping to get my 3rd Gen Fronts in before my next adventure weekend in November.