T4R emergency Lights at night . . .

The videos are great....well done...your truck looks awesome....i have a question about the strobe lights in the brake lights...how hard was that to do? I was thinkin about putting clear strobes in the reverse lights but would want them to come on when going in reverse...is that possible or do they come with a control box to turn them on/off? I am not familiar with how strobes work as you can tell...thanks
 
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I am not sure you could get the strobes into the back up lights. The problem is that there is not much space between the plastic housing (the part with the turn, brake and back up light that is bolted to the truck body), and the metal body behind it. The reason I could fit them into the brake lights is that the housing is round, and you can squeeze in the strobes off to the side. Hopefully that makes sense.

Strobe lights require a power pack to work. Some lights, like the mini light bar on my roof, have a power pack build into the unit. Individual bulbs like those in my brake lights do not. You could tap into the wire that power the reverse lights, run that wire to the strobe pack, which would feed the strobe lights. It would be boderline illegal though, and you wouldn't have the option of turning it off if a cop was in the area behind you. You could definitely put in strobe lights in a few other spots, but you may want separate switches so that you can only turn them on in spots where you won't get in trouble.

Check out www.strobesnmore.com for some ideas with all of this. They also have some good info on how to wire strobes. Lastly, keep your eyes peeled for a T4R.org club meeting up in Bear Mt, NY area. Go to the NJ boards, we are planning something for Sat. 4/23, and I will hopefully be there. I can show you a lot easier than I can explain it to you.
 
Thanks a lot for the info...it was just an idea...i really have no use for them just thought they would look cool...and after seeing your video it brought it to light...it looks awesome....I will have to see if I am around at the end of april I am going to San Diego and I might be leaving on the 23rd but I will look into it...i definitely want to meet up with a bunch of you
 
Sweet man! Gotta love a well done POV!

I just have my two grille lights and a kojack. I am looking for a full size bar tho; like maybe a Jetstream. A full 7 pod Vector would be hot tho!

If I get the dash light I am looking at I'll have to post a shot of it.
 
here you go...

the picture of the front...
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and of the back... its hard to tell the brake lights have strobes in them during the day, but you can see the strobes in the backup lights
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Nice Lights! They look great. You should try to come to the meet in northern NJ/Bear Mt. on april 23rd. Look under the club listings, then check under the link for NJ meetings, April 9th (Date was changed). The only thing is, don't you miss putting your rear window down?
 
ksneubec said:
Nice Lights! They look great. You should try to come to the meet in northern NJ/Bear Mt. on april 23rd. Look under the club listings, then check under the link for NJ meetings, April 9th (Date was changed). The only thing is, don't you miss putting your rear window down?

yea i'll try to make it. my rear window still goes down, the rear talon was drilled in so its not suctioned onto the window
 
Cools lights, guys! Looking forward to the siren show now!

Another site I used in the past was http://www.sirennet.com They also offer many safety oriented devices.

I only bought and installed the Chargeguard device from Sirennet. (http://www.chargeguard.com/main.html) If you want some safety in having devices powered directly, but can power off on their own should you forget, then the Chargeguard is the way to go. My HAM, CB, radar detector, after market HU are all monitored by the Chargeguard. Since the HU controls the amps, they too are indirectly covered.

I haven't yet bought a strobe device, but I came across this one that motorcyclists seems to enjoy. http://www.comagination.com/bflasher.htm I like the idea of have such a device to wake up sleepy heads on my tail. I'd install it in the rear center brake light.
 
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ksneubec: I notice that your lights are blue and orange. Is red not legal unless on a fire truck, ambulance, or police vehicle?
 
Yabedude,

First off, I still owe you money for the fog light mod!! Tell me where to send it!

Anyways, I would be careful about installing a flasher unit into the rear high mounted center brake light. That is generally a "no-no." In the emergency services several manufactures make flasher units that will alternately flash the rear back up lights with the rear brake lights (overridden by applying the brakes or going in reverse), but the unit is only supposed to flash the side brake lights, and NOT interfere with the center high mount brake light.

You could alternately put strobes into the rear side brake lights, or into the rear fog lights, although you would have to drill a second 1 inch hole next to where you drilled the holes to mount the parking/brake/turn signal lights. This also would be illegal, but less visible so less a chance of getting hassled by PD. You could put strobes into the turn signals as well.

Lastly, someone else on this site bought a whelen slimlighter LED (http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/80/2181.htm?988) and stuck it on the rear window with suction cups. It is powered by a cigarette lighter plug, so you could run an extension cord to the front or just hard wire it. Only thing is you can't lower the rear window all the way if you suction cup it. (I like sirennet.com too, but strobesnmore.com is my favorite).

Lastly, the colors that we are allowed to use vary by state to state. Most, but not all, allow us to use red lights. In CT/NJ/NY, among others, however, firefighters use blue. Amber (not orange) is TECHNICALLY for work vehicles, plows, etc, but if you have a permit for blue, no one will care if you have amber as well. It is also a "brighter" color and can be seen from further away, thus is a bit safer, plus using different color combinations catches the eye better. I believe legally we can use white as well. In the rear of the vehicle, while technically illegal, most places will allow you to use flashing red lights, esp. if they are "hidden" in the rear brake lights, like my rear-facing strobes are.

Amber is the best color choice to avoid issues with PD. Although most states actually do require permits to use them, I have never, ever heard of a cop asking to see one, no matter the situation.

If you use new LED technology, MOST are clear when off, regardless of the color, which makes things more subtle, and avoids attracting attention. (Unless you want attention and thus turn the unit on.) See my front blue/amber grill lights, mounted below the PIAAs, for example. They look like regular fog lights when off.

Hope this answers all of your questions. PM or e-mail me if you have any other questions about mounting lights to the rear of your 4R. I would be happy to help.
 
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Interesting info ... It sounds like strobes on a civilian vehicle are illegal.

The ones I was pondering (on that web site) would only activate during a braking event and the pulsing flashes are suppose to peter out in a rush hour situation. The limited flashing would seem to mimic a driver simply pumping the brakes. I'd need to do more research before going forward and as the web site suggests, "Check with your local authorities if your not sure of its use."

PS: Email sent ...
 
Yabedude,
I have a brake light flasher (pulses the CHMSL 5 times then stays solid when brakes are applied)... It's about the size of a quarter and fits easily behind the housing. I ordered the IBF-4 so I wouldn't annoy following drivers. See: http://www.comagination.com/bflasher.htm

I also mounted an amber whelen slimlighter (check ebay) using a bail mount bracket in the headliner at the top of the rear window, so that I wouldn't lose the use of the sliding glass. It's only used (along w/ the red/amber hazard lights) when I'm off to the side of the road helping someone (I think we should all be good samaritans) or if I need to warn folks behind me that I'm stopping quickly on the highway or if traffic ahead has slowed very suddenly and they're coming up on me too fast. It also works to get tailgaters to back off a little too. I thought about applying some vinyl lettering that reads BACK OFF! so that it's backlit and visible when they're that close. It's totally invisible since it's mounted up high in the shadows behind the tinted glass.
 
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bryancos said:
Yabedude,
I have a brake light flasher (pulses the CHMSL 5 times then stays solid when brakes are applied)... It's about the size of a quarter and fits easily behind the housing. I ordered the IBF-4 so I wouldn't annoy following drivers. See: http://www.comagination.com/bflasher.htm


That's the one I was referring to, but it may not be legit in all areas. Personally, I tend to think that anything that we can do to eliminate rear-enders from occurring should be welcome by insurance companies and the PD, but I'm not in a position to change/make the laws and I guess I'm suppose to abide by them. :dammit:
 
Too Many Blue Lights

I know in NY state, you are only allowed to use ONE blue light. Alot of our guys ignore that rule, and I've never seen any of our guys getting hassled, but I'm sure it could happen. Don't you have the same law in NJ?
 
Re: Too Many Blue Lights

Skyline said:
I know in NY state, you are only allowed to use ONE blue light. Alot of our guys ignore that rule, and I've never seen any of our guys getting hassled, but I'm sure it could happen. Don't you have the same law in NJ?

Where are you in Westchester? I just moved from there to CT. Not sure about NJ, but CT is blue lights for firefighters too. I am not sure about the way the law is written, but most cops will not hassle you if you have more than one blue light, as long as you use them responsibly. I have a feeling NJ is the same.
 
<I>"Attention Kmart Shoppers, if you look up and around you'll see that flashing blue light..."</I>

If you're gonna make a scene, be seen... :) I say the more lights you have flashing in someone's rear view mirror, the faster they'll get out of your way!

ksneubec,
Did you install those new lights you were telling me about yet?
 
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bryancos said:
ksneubec,
Did you install those new lights you were telling me about yet?

No, I bought a lift kit instead. The LED grill light will likely be my "present of the month" for June, so stay tuned :)
 

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