Take the plunge should I?

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I don't know, I haven't driven one yet myself. I'm just reporting the info that I found.

Anyway, may fav thing about the 5th gen is what you mentioned, the interior space. For what I want a vehicle for, that is a big plus. I watched a video review that said it had quite a bit more space than a Grand Cherokee, like 20 cubic ft I think. The relatively tall roof and square shape must really help with that.

For towing, one may want to look elsewhere. The Taco with the 3.5 is rated at 6,500lbs, IIRC. That may be a bit better. Then of course there is the Tundra or Sequoia, I don't know the figures offhand, but being as those are larger, V8 powered vehicles I imagine they're at 7k lbs plus.

Sometimes during my current search for a 3rd gen, I wonder if I might be better off with a first gen Sequoia.

And honestly, the 5th gen T4R doesn't have that many gizmos that aren't on the 3rd gen. It's one of the most basic 4x4's you can get in the US, next to the base Wrangler with crank windows.

You get the infotainment and backup cam, which I've found can be added to a 3rd gen for not that much $$. 5th gen lacks most newer features such as pushbutton start, smart or proximity key, rear cross traffic warning, blind spot monitoring. Which is all stuff that came on my GF's new 20k Hyundai, btw.

Also, you have to buy the Limited to get AWD, and you need to buy at least the Premium to get heated seats.

I also find it interesting that a multi-mode equipped 3rd gen has a more versatile 4wd system than the 5th gen. (or even the 01-02 center diff lock button, for that matter)

I was looking at Sequoia's especially because of the huge cargo area for my 3 dogs. The interior is bigger than a LC. But because of the Dana frame rot issues I got scared away. I didn't want to fly/drive or pay for shipping for one out of the rust belt. I would only do that for a 3rd gen. :becky:

 

[Vonhetzer]

Correct me if I wrong, I thought the base SR5 had AWD? My wife does complain about not having AWD in her 17 OR. If your not into black I'd say keep searching for the color you love because it's not a cheap fix. The softex seats are Meh, better than the cloth but not even in the same category of leather. I think the limited is the only way to get true leather.