I have a jeep wrangler, and used to have a grand prix with snow tires. Both were/are great in the snow. I recently put some Coopers on the 4runner, it is a MONSTER in the snow. If I'm going anywhere in the snow I'm taking the 4runner. Having gone through multiple sets of tires on all them, I can say tires make all the difference in the world. 4runner sucked in the snow last year, now, it's awesome. We got a decent amount of snow this year so I able to really put these coopers to the test. Seems to me like a skill or tire issue to me.