The Beast Meets Snow. Pirelli Scorpion ATR

alaskaman

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Just returned from I-80 from Sacramento to the summit. snow sideways! Had a good time testing the Scorpions.

Deep snow up to 2 feet. Scorpions were competent. I took work to break them loose and when they did they got back on track by slowing down. Easily track and competent from 0 mph to 40 mph in slush, packed snow and ice. and deep drifts-tracked easily. I made my own tracks on roads near the freeway and went through drifts up over front bumper without difficulty. VSC alarmed twice when I pushed the accelerator. With the differential locked the back end came around worse going up unplowed roads. With VSC on the Scorps tracked much better on the same road. Level road in deep snow with diff locked was fine and felt good.

Acceleration without spin or breaking loose at all speeds and passing slower trucks and vehicles up to 45 mph unless I jumped on it.

Braking was problematic on ice only and snow over ice as ABS came on every time with moderate brake pedal pressure. slid on packed ice going downhill but easily kept a straight track and then I used gears and easy brake pedal to correct this. stopped easily in packed snow, slush and from speed on snow without slipping. easy command of all situations with ice being the condition which demanded the most of the driver and the vehicle (with ABS chattering).

In situations where other 4WD vehicles were following trucks, passed easily and without concern or incident. Acceleration was smooth and without slip. I do not have experience with other tires which you all favor so I can only say that for a 1st time, I did not have any potential worries about the Scorpions. At one point, I was the only vehicle on Interstate 80 and the Beast and I played in the snow. :driving:
 

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Scorpions did well on this bridge over freeway with snow/ice up to 5 inches deep
 

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I also have the Scorpion Ice and Snow tires on my 4runner. I've found they act best on compact snow. I live in Prince George BC and for the last little while we've had a decent dumping of snow. My 88 t4r in 4wd mode coupled with the Scorpions, has been amazing. Better traction and grip than anything I've driven.
EXCELLENT tire IMO. Although I might be somewhat biased since the only tires that have ever been on my truck since '88 have been from the pirelli scorpion line..... (The old M/S tires I had on were unstoppable as well).

They can be a little pricey but I would most definitely recommend them as well.
 
alaskaman said:
hey BC good post. Prince George.....nice.
I'm just saying it how it is :biggrin2: I love Pirrellis! And finally getting to test them out in the "north" has made me appreciate them even more. :bigok:
 
Did you use the Scorpion ATR or Scorpion Ice and Snow? I'm debating between the two. MN/WI highway driving in heavy, heavy snow is no fun. :-)
 
I have the Scorpion ATR. When I get back to AK this winter I will see how they do. Tire Rack recently tested studded and non studded tires and found that the compounds present in the non studded tires were superior in handling to the studded tires..........The Scorpion Winter Carving is the top of the line ice and snow tire that Pirelli puts out. If you notice, the tread is similar to the ATR.
 
alaskaman said:
This is the Pirelli recommended for winter SUV. Almost identical to the ATR.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Winter+Carving+Edge

Nice. It's not showing them in a size I think I can use though...

I'm only seeing (for comparable sizes) the 235/65-17, 255/55-18, and 255/60-18. I have an 04 Sport with the stock Dunlap 265/65-17-- you upgrade your wheels as well?

I might just stick with the ATR's if I can't figure these puppies out.
 
alaskaman said:
Have you called America/Discount. They usually have a fit. I used stock rims with the 265 65 17

Sorry, I mis spoke. Probably gonna go with the Scorpion ATR's. The Winter Carving don't come in 265/65/17 or any 265 for that matter...

Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it. :-)
 
alaskaman said:
folks here swear by the Nokians as well.

I actually was going to post this because it was an old thread , but still love the photo shots.

I was at the dealer and an FJ that had some 18" rims / maybe 20's , well they were bigger and chrome anyway but it had Nokians . They seemed pretty aggressive but I was looking at the tire and could not find a model # on it. I dont know if they make an AT tire or if they are all seasons .
 
Bumping this Thread. Scorpions at 25K

Scorpions were easily competent during the past 08-09 winter here in Anchorage. No flat tires. No flat spots under severe cold up to 30 below zero.

ATR's with 25K miles now....took them into the local tire dealer (Johnson). Tread is substantially there a little wearing on the front outside on both tires (now rotated). They have been very good and hold the road tight in the past month with a good deal of August rain. Dealer thinks they should easily perform as well as last year. Looks like I will get at least 2 seasons out of them probably 50K miles.

Originally paid around $800. for the set with $100 off coupon from Americas tire and trade in $120 for the Dunlops I think. Now living about 13 miles from work will give the forum an update if studs are needed this winter. Pleased with them so far.:driving::driving:
 

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