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I'm at 38k miles and I have hard startups sometimes. Like the car will turn over, start, bog down, and then be normal again. Is this a sign that I need new plugs? I don't know if they've been changed before

1) Spark plugs could be the reason though. The recommended replacement interval for V6 is around 25-30K miles. However, when I bought my 2006 t4r used with 78K it had the original spark plugs in it (3 denso on one bank and 3 ngk on another - it's the way they install it on plant). The engine was running just fine, although improved and became smoother when I replaced them with stock regular Denso.

2) It then improved even further when I replaced regular Denso with iridium ones after 15K. I TESTIFY THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE! I can't compare the mileage - it's cold in here and I warm up the engine a lot. Traffic jams also add to low mpg. But I can judge even smoother running, easier start. I feel I get slightly more power. Well, the engine even sounds better.

If you need more technical info on why there's a difference, just google it. Iridium spark plugs have a very tiny tip, much more stable and stronger spark because it is centered and ignited in the same place as opposed to much thicker copper tip in regular plugs. It gives same strength of spark every time thus helping to ignite and burn fuel mix more effectively. Also, the fact that you can change them at 100K interval actually means that they are better in quality anyway. I thought it's a pure marketing and was skeptical until tried myself. Besides, price for iridium ones is not much higher.

P.S. I just posted this and then saw Whitebeauty's post with photo above - these are the ones I have installed, they're great! Although, mine were pack in Toyota red boxes.
 
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What is it with "What Oil?" and "What Spark Plug?" threads that get everyone into such a tizzy.

Says right on the motor to use "iridium plugs only" for the V8. Like everyone else has said, NGK or Denso are going to be your best bet.

I use Valvoline Dino oil in mine, changed every 3k if anyone wants to blast me for that :guitar3:
 
Makes no difference if you have a V6 or V8.

Use the OEM plug for your vehicle. For Toyota that's either Denso or NGK.

They both make excellent plugs. Other companies like Champion, Autolite and even AC/Delco make plugs for this vehicle. But OEM plugs work the BEST. AC/Delco plugs work best on GM vehicles. Toyota outsourced the design of the plugs to Denso and NGK. They know how to make the correct plug for Toyota (and many other Asian vehicles).

There are 3 basic types of OEM plugs...Regular (copper), Platinum and Iridium. All 3 plugs perform EXACTLY THE SAME WAY. There is ZERO difference in performance or gas mileage among the 3 types of plugs. The ONLY difference is that Platinum and Iridium plugs last much longer. Platinum plugs will last about 60k miles while Iridium plugs can last over 100k miles. Regular plugs last about 40k miles.

Mechanics all over country have reported a drastic increase in stripped heads when trying to remove a spark plug that's welded itself to the heads after sitting in there for 100k miles. You won't have to change the plugs that often with Iridium plugs...but you may have major problems when you do.


If long life spark plugs such as iridium are going to seize, then I rather have regular plugs that I change every two years or so. The added bonus is being to check the condition of the plugs/engine regularly.
 
Part of the reason for the plugs siezing is because of design (*Cough* Ford V8, V10 Triton Engines I'm looking at you! *Cough*), and because from the factory they don't usually put any type of anti-sieze compound on them. Even with all our Toyotas, I have never seen a spark plug with anti-sieze on it from the factory. Now is putting anti-sieze on the threads bad? I can't say, but I can say I haven't had an issue with it yet and it helps prevent them getting to stuck in the head.

Mike has a good suggestion, maybe every 60k or so you check the plugs, don't have to replace them but crack them off and take a look so they don't weld in there.
 
Its the Tower of Spark plugs!!!!! That will kick your Azz!!!!!!..lol..

My tower is bigger than yours.:jump:

Part of the reason for the plugs siezing is because of design (*Cough* Ford V8, V10 Triton Engines I'm looking at you! *Cough*), and because from the factory they don't usually put any type of anti-sieze compound on them. Even with all our Toyotas, I have never seen a spark plug with anti-sieze on it from the factory. Now is putting anti-sieze on the threads bad? I can't say, but I can say I haven't had an issue with it yet and it helps prevent them getting to stuck in the head.

Mike has a good suggestion, maybe every 60k or so you check the plugs, don't have to replace them but crack them off and take a look so they don't weld in there.

No problems for me. I have been using anti seize for years and never an issue.
 
Even with all our Toyotas, I have never seen a spark plug with anti-sieze on it from the factory.

Sounds like it puts the dealer in kind of a tough spot when changing long life plugs. I guess if it's within the maintenance schedule any damage is on the dealer. Have you seen it happen?
 
1) Spark plugs could be the reason though. The recommended replacement interval for V6 is around 25-30K miles. However, when I bought my 2006 t4r used with 78K it had the original spark plugs in it (3 denso on one bank and 3 ngk on another - it's the way they install it on plant). The engine was running just fine, although improved and became smoother when I replaced them with stock regular Denso.

2) It then improved even further when I replaced regular Denso with iridium ones after 15K. I TESTIFY THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE! I can't compare the mileage - it's cold in here and I warm up the engine a lot. Traffic jams also add to low mpg. But I can judge even smoother running, easier start. I feel I get slightly more power. Well, the engine even sounds better.

If you need more technical info on why there's a difference, just google it. Iridium spark plugs have a very tiny tip, much more stable and stronger spark because it is centered and ignited in the same place as opposed to much thicker copper tip in regular plugs. It gives same strength of spark every time thus helping to ignite and burn fuel mix more effectively. Also, the fact that you can change them at 100K interval actually means that they are better in quality anyway. I thought it's a pure marketing and was skeptical until tried myself. Besides, price for iridium ones is not much higher.

P.S. I just posted this and then saw Whitebeauty's post with photo above - these are the ones I have installed, they're great! Although, mine were pack in Toyota red boxes.

Thanks for the info Banzaj!

I went to Autozone last night and picked up some Autolite iridium spark plugs and anti-seize. Because I have a K&N cold air intake, the left side plugs are totally in the open. The right side however.... God that was a PITA!
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(Look at the left side vs. the right side).

I checked out the stock plugs when I got them out and I'm seriously amazed that they were even producing a spark! They were so burnt, rusty and corroded.

Got the new plugs in and my truck started like a freakin champ! No more startup issues :D

-Alex
 
Thanks for the info Banzaj!

I went to Autozone last night and picked up some Autolite iridium spark plugs and anti-seize. Because I have a K&N cold air intake, the left side plugs are totally in the open. The right side however.... God that was a PITA!
aefc216f-41d9-e61b.jpg
(Look at the left side vs. the right side).

I checked out the stock plugs when I got them out and I'm seriously amazed that they were even producing a spark! They were so burnt, rusty and corroded.

Got the new plugs in and my truck started like a freakin champ! No more startup issues :D

-Alex
Why did you go autolite? Did they not have NGK or Densos?
 
Have you seen it happen?

I haven't seen it..but know a couple of people it happened to. They weren't happy. And it is NOT covered under warranty. If it happens then YOU pay for the heilcoil and labor (about $100 per plug).
 
I wouldn't use Autolite. I have in the past...and NEVER again. OEM plugs are the best. The Autolites may be working fine now..but wait a few months and let us know. I truly hope they don't give you the problems I've seen.
 
Why did you go autolite? Did they not have NGK or Densos?

They had neither the NGK or Densos at Autozone. I had also checked at NAPA auto and they didn't have any either. I really needed to change the stock plugs. They seem ok so far, so I'm not too worried. Worst case, I can throw these out if I don't like them in a few thousand miles or so.
 
I wouldn't use Autolite. I have in the past...and NEVER again. OEM plugs are the best. The Autolites may be working fine now..but wait a few months and let us know. I truly hope they don't give you the problems I've seen.

That sounds incredibly vague yet scary. Mr. Cowhampshire, what problems shall I expect?

(I have a cottage up in Ossipee, NH. I'm not hating on the state)
 
They had neither the NGK or Densos at Autozone. I had also checked at NAPA auto and they didn't have any either. I really needed to change the stock plugs. They seem ok so far, so I'm not too worried. Worst case, I can throw these out if I don't like them in a few thousand miles or so.

Did you try the dealership? They have the densos for under $3/pop
 
They had neither the NGK or Densos at Autozone. I had also checked at NAPA auto and they didn't have any either. I really needed to change the stock plugs. They seem ok so far, so I'm not too worried. Worst case, I can throw these out if I don't like them in a few thousand miles or so.

Autolite plugs were in my 95 when I bought it. After I switched to NGK the truck ran much better and had more power. They have a bad rep for a reason. The only motor that I would put Autolites in is my lawnmower!
 
Autolite plugs were in my 95 when I bought it. After I switched to NGK the truck ran much better and had more power. They have a bad rep for a reason. The only motor that I would put Autolites in is my lawnmower!

Crap..... Well, I'll see how these fare for me and make a call next oil change.

Anyone try those E3 spark plugs? Spike TV makes them seem amazing lol
 
I must have gotten lucky then when I put Autolites in my Ranger then towed with it for the last 80,000 miles. No issues and fuel mileage stayed constant........"crappy", just in case anyone was wondering.

:D

The 102,000-miles plugs that were in it prior to that? You guess it, Autolites.


:wow2:


emelianenkov- I have used the single electrode plugs in everything I ridden, driven, raced and crashed and never once had a spark plug-related issue. Everything else seems gimmicky and not worth the $$, IMO.
 
I must have gotten lucky then when I put Autolites in my Ranger then towed with it for the last 80,000 miles. No issues and fuel mileage stayed constant........"crappy", just in case anyone was wondering.

:D

The 102,000-miles plugs that were in it prior to that? You guess it, Autolites.


:wow2:


emelianenkov- I have used the single electrode plugs in everything I ridden, driven, raced and crashed and never once had a spark plug-related issue. Everything else seems gimmicky and not worth the $$, IMO.

I'm with you. As many a logical man has said before; a spark plug is a spark plug is a spark is a spark plug is a spark plug.....
 

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