The LFD Off Road Thread

Engo SR10 - Synthetic 10000lb Winch weighs 60 pounds.

LFD Hybrid Bumper weighs 83.2 lbs.

Stock Bumper I removed weighed 24.4 pounds.

Center of mass of new gear is a bit forward of stock bumper so 60 + 83.2 - 24.4 = 118.8 isn't exactly right, but close.



I still have stock suspension and I think the front went down about 1/2 inch... hard to tell with various measurements.

Front skid plate seems to show it most.



That sounds about right. We added a bit more weight with lights, but our Dobinson’s springs only dropped 1/2 inch...

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Has anyone mounted an antenna to the crossbars? Thinking about mounting my midland gmrs antenna up there and curious to what solutions you folks may have. Thanks!
 
Has anyone mounted an antenna to the crossbars? Thinking about mounting my midland gmrs antenna up there and curious to what solutions you folks may have. Thanks!

3/8" through hole NMO mount should fit almost perfectly in the large hole cutout part of the slot
 
Has anyone mounted an antenna to the crossbars? Thinking about mounting my midland gmrs antenna up there and curious to what solutions you folks may have. Thanks!

I have my magnetic shorty antenna for the WeBoost mounted to a cross bar (and then I pop it "down" to live horizontally off of the inside of the side rail when I'm not expecting to need it)...

Are you talking about the short magnetic mount antenna included with the MXT275 (and I'd imagine the 115)? Or adding a NMO style mount should be fairly easy. I've never measured to see if the 3/8" NMO will fit through the circular part, but it could alternatively just enlarge one of them. If that's not your cup of tea any of the generic 90 degree or "fender" NMO mounts should work just fine.

If you wanted to get fancy with it you could look into something like a Diamond trunk lip mount (or SUPER fancy with their motorized one).
 
I have my magnetic shorty antenna for the WeBoost mounted to a cross bar (and then I pop it "down" to live horizontally off of the inside of the side rail when I'm not expecting to need it)...

Are you talking about the short magnetic mount antenna included with the MXT275 (and I'd imagine the 115)? Or adding a NMO style mount should be fairly easy. I've never measured to see if the 3/8" NMO will fit through the circular part, but it could alternatively just enlarge one of them. If that's not your cup of tea any of the generic 90 degree or "fender" NMO mounts should work just fine.

If you wanted to get fancy with it you could look into something like a Diamond trunk lip mount (or SUPER fancy with their motorized one).

Thanks for the responses folks! Was planning on adding an NMO mount to use with the MXTA26 antenna.
 
Has anyone mounted an antenna to the crossbars? Thinking about mounting my midland gmrs antenna up there and curious to what solutions you folks may have. Thanks!

I've run a CB antenna bolted directly to a crossbar in a pinch (left the mount at home accidentally). It was tall, which is good for reception but bad for branches!
 
I've run a CB antenna bolted directly to a crossbar in a pinch (left the mount at home accidentally). It was tall, which is good for reception but bad for branches!



This is how my Dual Band antenna is mounted... It becomes a pogo stick with the branches.

It is in the top of the pic by the ROAM Crate...

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Update - Wind Fairing Solved the Noise

Seems obvious but I figured I'd update the post. Yes, the wind fairing works. Installed the steel fairing Saturday (about 2 mins) and noise went away, loaded or unloaded.

If you are considering number of cross bars and/or a wind fairing - this might help.

Had 2 stainless crossbars positioned between the low noise OEM marks on the rails.
Was able to mount hi-lift, shovel and 4 recovery boards (2 Xbull stacks side by side).
Noise was noticeable, but easy to ignore.
Above 70 got a little worse, but not bad.
No need for a wind fairing.

Moved the 2 bars all the way back and noise wasn't much different.

Added 3rd bar all the way forward and now the noise is annoying.
Don't really need the 3rd bar for 4x4 gear, but I wanted it to spread the bars out for Lowe's runs.
I could have just moved the two around as needed and saved money, but I already bought the third, so now I think i need a wind fairing.
Plus, moving them around isn't hard, but it is time consuming - they aren't quick-release and slide.
And they have to be just right so all the bolts and brackets line up for the gear on top.
 
Looks great!

What would you say is the added weight with the bumper and winch?

Damn that looks good. Best hybrid out there because of the winch access. Will be getting one maybe later this year. How long did it take to install, without the winch and with the winch?
 
Install Time... 1/2 day going slow

Honestly didn't really time the install, since I had all day.
Started around lunch and was done by dinner going slow.
Needed help holding things a few times, it would be really awkward by yourself.
I reviewed some posts about bumper removal and kind of mapped out my plan before hand.
Nothing really difficult about it... just have to commit on bumper removal (popping parts out) and later cutting.
Son used floor jack to lift LFD bumper in place while I bolted it up - easy.
I connected all the wires to the winch and it bolts right on - easy without bumper cover in place. (don't think it can be done with cover on).
Winch fit fine and I didn't have to bend any brackets or anything - suspect that will vary on winch model.
Dremel to cut out area on the bumper cover was fairly easy but scary.
Then maneuver the bumper cover back in place - I think a 2 person job and requires patience.
And trim with edge guard.
I wanted some wire loom for my positive cable so I went back later and connected to the battery... plenty of room and another 15 minutes of fiddling.

To me the scariest part is the cutting.
If you have a trail then your valence is the template - easier.

The most annoying part is getting the bumper cover off and then back on - read some posts for tips.
It isn't hard, but you are pulling and tying to get it to pop apart without creasing plastic... then getting the damn thing back on is worse.
The bolt turning LFD/winch part is easy.

If you plan on doing the winch at a separate time - that sucks because you have to do the bumper cover twice. Maybe you'll be better at it than I was.

Damn that looks good. Best hybrid out there because of the winch access. Will be getting one maybe later this year. How long did it take to install, without the winch and with the winch?
 
Since it is relevant to the thread, and shows the rear bumper and roof rack actually being used, here are a few shots from this past weekend's event with LFD/OEX...

[MENTION=455301]Unretired[/MENTION] I had a thought that was your truck in the other group! We caught up to your group just in time to see your truck getting a little help on the rocks, but I don't think we ever actually got a chance to chat.

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Think that was more than a little help

I was last to arrive and somehow ended up in the group of 7 lifted Jeeps with monster tires. Thought I was cool as the morning went well in mud, hills, rocks, roots... even tugged a rubicon out of a hole he got himself stuck in. Then the afternoon came and we went in to the real ROCKS and I was destroyed. Stock size tires, stock suspension and lots of weight were not the right recipe. At least I had good skids & sliders because I used them a lot. I was deep in the rocks and high centered several times... stacking rocks, jack & cast, tugged, winched... it was ugly. I don't have any pictures because humorously I was in the truck with a foot on the brake the whole time while everyone else worked. We will see if someone else posts some photos so people can see what a non-lifted SR5 can almost do...


[MENTION=455301]Unretired[/MENTION] I had a thought that was your truck in the other group! We caught up to your group just in time to see your truck getting a little help on the rocks, but I don't think we ever actually got a chance to chat.
 
I was last to arrive and somehow ended up in the group of 7 lifted Jeeps with monster tires. Thought I was cool as the morning went well in mud, hills, rocks, roots... even tugged a rubicon out of a hole he got himself stuck in. Then the afternoon came and we went in to the real ROCKS and I was destroyed. Stock size tires, stock suspension and lots of weight were not the right recipe. At least I had good skids & sliders because I used them a lot. I was deep in the rocks and high centered several times... stacking rocks, jack & cast, tugged, winched... it was ugly. I don't have any pictures because humorously I was in the truck with a foot on the brake the whole time while everyone else worked. We will see if someone else posts some photos so people can see what a non-lifted SR5 can almost do...

I thought we had grabbed a couple photos of you on the rocks, but looks like no. I've asked around if anyone else did, Ill send them over if we find some.

Here's a couple from earlier in the morning

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Wanted to mount my lightbar up front, similar to how the guys with the Frontrunner roof racks do theirs. I wasn't completely against cutting up the wind fairing and doing something similar to the prinsu racks, but I just preferred the look of the bar between the crossbar and roof rather than above the fairing.

Got one of the new thicker bars and mounted it as far up front as I could get it, and bought some 3x5" L brackets to mount the light bar. Had to drill out the holes a bit to fit the lightbar, but besides that it all went smoothly.

Surprisingly wind noise isn't an issue. It makes roughly the same amount of noise as the wind fairing did (may be a tad bit louder), at around 70-80mph, below of that it's not nearly as noticeable.

Here's a quick cellphone shot. I'll get some high quality photos later this weekend.

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